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To: microhoogle! who wrote (44364)10/7/2011 7:55:55 AM
From: Jeff Jordan1 Recommendation   of 92597
 
Well, You forgot one key ingredient....which keeps Ben grinning from ear to ear.

......and that would be the usury fee collected for every 100 Euro he prints from nothing.

LOL....tax the federal reserve banks to hell and ALL your problems will quickly vanish<g>

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To: koan who wrote (44342)10/7/2011 8:14:40 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone1 Recommendation   of 92597
 
All three of you have cataracts?-g-


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Both John Stewart and Bill Maher thought Elizabeth Warren was so hot they could barely keep their hands off her. I think she is hot. Brillant, beautiful, ethical and strong. The whole package.

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To: TH who wrote (44350)10/7/2011 8:24:38 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone25 Recommendations   of 92597
 
Greenspam on CNBS this AM

Saying:
"if we could burn down a million houses
like we killed billions of chickens in the 1930s` depression to get the price of chicken up,
problem solved."

"It was impossible to see this coming"

Why is this MF not hanging from a lamppost?-ng-

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To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (44367)10/7/2011 8:44:51 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone   of 92597
 
Death Panels?
I see dead people?
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Health-care law benefits must be limited to ensure affordability, panel says
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By N.C. Aizenman, Published: October 6



An advisory panel of experts on Thursday recommended that the Obama administration emphasize affordability over breadth of coverage when it comes to implementing a key insurance provision of the 2010 health-care law.

Obama officials charged with stipulating what “essential benefits” many health plans will have to cover should make it a priority to keep premiums reasonable, even if that means allowing plans to be less comprehensive, counseled the committee of the National Academy of Science’s Institute of Medicine (IOM).






“The question is what is the fairest, most transparent way to get a reasonable set of benefits and still keep it affordable for both the user and for the taxpayers,” said committee member Marjorie Ginsburg. “We don’t want to say that one is more important than the other. .?.?. But the limiting issue obviously is affordability.”

The findings highlight the difficult balancing act the administration faces in carrying out one of the the health-care law’s most sweeping, yet ambiguous, mandates. The statute sets out 10 general categories — ranging from hospitalization to prescription drugs — that all new insurance plans for individuals and small businesses must offer starting in 2014. It also states that the scope of the essential benefits package should be equal to that of a “typical employer plan.”

But Congress did not specify whether this referred to the more generous plans sponsored by large employers or the more minimalist versions bought by many small businesses. And it gave Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius ultimate authority to decide both how much more detailed to make the package and what to include in it.

If she adds little to the legal requirement, the market could end up split between cheap, bare-bones plans of use only to the healthy, and exorbitantly priced full coverage plans financially out of reach of many sick people who need them most.

If she adds too many requirements, premiums for all plans could soar — with consequences for not just individuals but the success of the law as a whole. That’s because many healthy people could decide to pay a penalty instead of buying pricey insurance, skewing the risk pool toward the sick and causing premiums to spiral higher.

That would also cause a spike in the subsidies for health insurance premiums, which the law requires the federal government to offer low-income people, hammering the national budget.


The committee proposed that the law be interpreted to require that the scope of benefits be equivalent to a typical small-employer plan. HHS officials would then determine what the national average premium of small-employer plans would be in 2014. They would then ensure that the benefits they require will not end up costing more than the premium target they set.

The panel, commissioned by Sebelius to propose a process for setting the benefits package, said it approached its task like a trip to the grocery store.

“One option is to .?.?. fill up your cart with the groceries you want, and then find out what it costs,” the committee wrote in a report released Thursday. “The other option is to walk into the store with a firm idea of what you can spend and to fill the cart carefully, with only enough food to fit within your budget. The committee .?.?. recommends the latter approach.”

Karen Ignagni, president of America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry trade group, said the recommendations were “very helpful to the discussion.”

Marc Boutin, executive vice president of the National Health Council, an umbrella organization for dozens of patient advocacy groups, countered that using small rather than large employer plans as a guide “raises the issue of whether the benefits will be effective for people with chronic conditions.” Still, he said he felt the committee generally went in “the right direction.”

Earlier this week, an HHS official said the agency would soon begin a series of listening sessions with consumer and industry groups around the country, with the goal of releasing a draft “essential benefits” package by the end of the year.

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To: Jeff Jordan who wrote (44365)10/7/2011 8:47:49 AM
From: posthumousone   of 92597
 
we will at 12K and 1200 by eod tues

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To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (44367)10/7/2011 8:59:17 AM
From: TH2 Recommendations   of 92597
 
Z,

Greenspasm and Krugman love to break those windows.

Hang Sir Alan? Why that's like saying you want to hang da Pope!

But, "TH's ROPE, tar, and pitchfork SuperStore", is offering free rope for life and $5,000 store gift card to the person who gets the job done.

GT
TH

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To: microhoogle! who wrote (44364)10/7/2011 9:02:41 AM
From: TH   of 92597
 
MH,

Always liked that story.

In one sense, that story is at the heart of Dick Cheney's comments that deficits don't matter. It is a bit of the same thing, from a slightly different perspective. At least that is how those in the government think about it.

Of course we know that there was no savings and no real exchange of goods/services reflecting the value of work.

It is an interesting little story.

GT
TH

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From: Travis_Bickle10/7/2011 9:09:47 AM
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Cramer on TV saying it's a good day to sell something

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To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (44372)10/7/2011 9:23:55 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone   of 92597
 





Japan's Central Bank Sounds Warning on Global Economy By HIROKO TABUCHI Published: October 7, 2011





TOKYO — The Japanese central bank sounded the alarm over the risks facing the world economy, even as it left its monetary policy unchanged Friday, underscoring the gravity of a global economic slowdown over which policy makers may have little control.

Also Friday, the Japanese cabinet outlined a supplemental budget of ¥12 trillion, or $155 billion, for the reconstruction of areas affected by the natural and nuclear disasters this year, the third such budget, and approved a plan to raise taxes temporarily to fund the effort.

The latest emergency budget follows about ¥6 trillion already earmarked in two supplemental budgets this year. It includes money to help relocate survivors and create a fund to revitalize the economy of Fukushima Prefecture, which has been hit hard by the nuclear crisis.

The government will raise up to ¥11.2 trillion from temporary taxes to help cover costs of rebuilding, according to the provisional tax plan. Officials have said they would also cut unnecessary government expenditures and sell state-owned assets, possibly including the government’s entire stake in Japan Tobacco.

The government has yet to work out the details of any extra spending, as well as tax increases, and must also win the approval of a divided Parliament. It aims to submit the budget to Parliament later this month, according to Kyodo News.

“The uncertain outlook for the global economy and instability in financial markets are underscoring the downside risks for Japan’s economy,” said Masaaki Shirakawa, the Bank of Japan governor.

The world’s advanced economies, in particular, are on the brink of a major slowdown, threatening the Japanese economy, he warned. The European debt crisis has started to cause real damage to the economies in Europe and beyond, he said.

“European financial markets remain tense, as there have been moves in money markets similar to those seen during the Lehman crisis,” he said, referring to the collapse of Lehman Brothers in September 2008. “What’s different is that the credibility of government debt has become the target of market worries, and this has resulted in bigger impact.”

The global economic problems have affected the Japanese economy just as it has shown signs of recovery following the hugely disruptive earthquake and tsunami in March, and the subsequent nuclear crisis. Economists say they expect figures to show that Japan emerged from recession in the third quarter, as companies restored supply chains disrupted by the disasters.

The International Monetary Fund forecasts that the Japanese economy will grow 2.3 percent in 2012, the fastest among advanced economies, thanks to Japan’s large fiscal outlays for reconstruction, in contrast with fiscal austerity measures imposed elsewhere in the world.

But prospects for a strong rebound of the country’s exports — on which Japan ultimately depends for economic growth — are looking increasingly frail.

Particularly worrying has been the strong yen, which has surged as investors look for a haven in which to park their assets. The strength of the yen has hurt Japan by making its exports less competitive and eroding exporters’ overseas profits.

Still, the central bank, with interest rates already near zero and a reluctance to flood the economy with more money, has little left in its policy arsenal to bolster the Japanese economy.

Its kept its key interest rate untouched at a range of zero to 0.1 percent and maintained the size of its asset-buying program.

It extended by only six months a ¥1 trillion emergency loan program for regions hit by the March disasters. Half that amount remains untapped amid a still-tepid economic recovery in disaster-affected areas.

The bank’s decision came after the European Central Bank also kept interest rates steady, though it threw a lifeline to struggling banks to ward off a credit crunch. Also Thursday, the Bank of England announced a second round of monetary easing.


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To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (44368)10/7/2011 9:28:52 AM
From: alanrs1 Recommendation   of 92597
 
>The panel, commissioned by Sebelius to propose a process for setting the benefits package, said it approached its task like a trip to the grocery store.

“One option is to .?.?. fill up your cart with the groceries you want, and then find out what it costs,” the committee wrote in a report released Thursday. “The other option is to walk into the store with a firm idea of what you can spend and to fill the cart carefully, with only enough food to fit within your budget. The committee .?.?. recommends the latter approach.”<

These people have taken way too many tests, pedal is to bicycle as propeller is to plane. Yeah, I guess health care is like groceries in some associative way. So what?

ARS

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