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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (20850)10/3/2017 10:00:29 PM
From: neolib
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Better make the most of the next year :)

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To: neolib who wrote (20851)10/3/2017 10:16:34 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar
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Better make the most of the next year :)
Seriously laughing out loud.

Let's make the best out of tomorrow. I'm on the one-day-at-a-time program.

Pravin.

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From: neolib10/4/2017 10:56:14 PM
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An interesting CPU twist:

eetimes.com;

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From: neolib10/5/2017 9:54:22 AM
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Coffee Lake reviews are up. About what was to be expected. The 8700 is in stock at Newegg (limit 1 per customer) while the 8700K appears sold out. Most the lower ones are in stock.

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To: neolib who wrote (20854)10/5/2017 3:50:53 PM
From: Vattila
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"All I will say is Coffee Lake is very short, like practically zero availability of the K versions.
I forsee most who were planning an upgrade just getting a Kaby lake or Ryzen."

Gibbo at forums.overclockers.co.uk

PS. Pricey graphics cards from Nvidia may actually help AMD CPU sales in the gaming segment, as wise gamers know that they can achieve better performance by saving a little on CPU and put the savings towards a high-end GPU. From the same thread at Overclockers forums:

"I just don't know what to do. For a purely gaming rig I know that Intel mainstream will likely produce the best performance. I remember switching from a 6700k to a 5820k thinking I'd notice an improvement and I didn't, like at all. I imagine the 7820x would be that scenario all over again, no improvement at all with 2 extra cores over the mainstream i7. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted by Ryzen, but I suffer from buyers remorse, and even if I was only 10fps short on a benchmark, I'd be wishing I had the cpu with better results (as silly as it sounds). However with my budget, I could build a Ryzen rig that would allow me to use the difference saved and pick up a 1080ti. The sensible part of me realises that a 1700 and 1080ti is going to be better than an i7 and 1080 at higher resolutions. Infact using my intel logic above I even thought about saving even more and going with a 1600, as 8 cores just aren't needed for gaming (by the time they are we'll be 3 or 4 cpu generations forward at least), and we know for certain the 8700k isn't going to be anywhere near the Ryzen 5 in price....Decisions, decisions.... "

forums.overclockers.co.uk

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To: Vattila who wrote (20855)10/5/2017 5:11:02 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar
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Pent up demand?

newegg.com

Or limited supply?

Guess Intel will keep gamers in their court.

Pravin.

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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (20856)10/5/2017 5:24:15 PM
From: Vattila
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"8700K is pre-order, stock due this month fingers crossed but Intel are very short, likewise for i5-8600K as well, minimal stocks unfortunately. "

Gibbo at forums.overclockers.co.uk

Some, admittedly selected, comments from the same thread:

"Been 5 years since my build, and motherboard is starting to die, I've held off for gen8 and now looking at the prices, I'm wondering if Ryzen is really good option to go to. I'm going full spec with a 1080 ti for gaming at 4k and I do a fair amount of video editing."

forums.overclockers.co.uk

"If prices are ridiculous / stock issues i will most probably go for a Ryzen too"

forums.overclockers.co.uk

"Me, too."

forums.overclockers.co.uk

"I'm 95% certain I'm going Ryzen instead of 8700k or X299 platform now. The upgrade path is more wallet friendly and gaming at 1440p; it's more GPU orientated anyway and am I really going to notice the difference between the chips with a 1080Ti for example?"

forums.overclockers.co.uk

"If I can't get what I want until Nov/Dec, I will wait and see if Ryzen 2 brings clock speed improvements in Feb in all honesty."

forums.overclockers.co.uk

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To: Vattila who wrote (20857)10/5/2017 5:46:19 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar
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Vattila,

Thanks for collecting that.

Even so, I think Intel will sell as many of them as they can make for the next six months.

Pravin

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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (20858)10/5/2017 5:52:41 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar
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pcgamesn.com

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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (20858)10/5/2017 7:12:15 PM
From: Vattila
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Agree. The 8-gen, with more cores and good frequency, is admittedly an substantial improvement on the 7-gen. The higher launch price may give way to more competitive pricing as soon as volume is up. And more budget friendly platform options will arrive as well. Still, with more cores and threads, Ryzen remains in the game, and will probably be competing fiercely on price, if need be, to maintain and increase share.

I will keep an eye on the Mindshare statistics throughout Q4 to see how the battle unfolds.

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