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To: $$$Stox_Trader$$$ who wrote (10030)7/28/2011 8:18:52 AM
From: scion of 34006
 
I would like to see some numbers on continuous operations, directly released from the Co, not more snapshots by message board posters.....for example, disclosing those "run tickets" talked about when this all started......

MorningLightMountain Share Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:19:19 PM
Re: Paula post# 124355 Post # of 124423

I would like to see some numbers on continuous operations, directly released from the Co, not more snapshots by message board posters.....for example, disclosing those "run tickets" talked about when this all started......

(of course, all info provided is appreciated, but direct statements on the public record are always better......no offense meant to all those visitors who report back, and the people who call, of course......but sooner or later it will have to be the Co speaking up, not second hand accounts)

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To: Generic who wrote (10029)7/28/2011 9:36:30 AM
From: Reseller Mike of 34006
 
LOL.

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From: SteveF7/28/2011 9:45:56 AM
of 34006
 

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To: Reseller Mike who wrote (10032)7/28/2011 9:48:23 AM
From: SteveF of 34006
 
Someone should remind 4kids that her L2 provider-of-choice (whom she recommends often), Equityfeed, also thinks the OTCQX is a pinksheet tier. Doesn't that kinda throw the reliability of her entire dataset into question?

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From: scion7/28/2011 9:49:12 AM
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They are, however, properly listed on the books as assets worth and cost of $10 million which is their original cost and still equivalent net worth.

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Scovanner Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:35:17 PM
Re: Rawnoc post# 220518 Post # of 239288

Explain again on why you think the media credits are "Liquid" in the JBII current Q filing under current assets?

Thanks.

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Rawnoc Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:40:17 PM
Re: Scovanner post# 220519 Tweet Post # of 239288

I don't recall calling the media credits "liquid" nor "current" assets.

They are, however, properly listed on the books as assets worth and cost of $10 million which is their original cost and still equivalent net worth.

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Scovanner Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43:46 PM
Re: Rawnoc post# 220523 Post # of 239288

"They are, however, properly listed on the books as assets worth and cost of $10 million which is their original cost and still equivalent net worth."

FYI: It isn't properly listed on the books.

For one, you can't get 10 million for them and that is what the company has it as in there balance sheet.

There's trickier going on with the books.

That's never a good sign.

Thanks.

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Rawnoc Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:49:56 PM
Re: Scovanner post# 220524 Tweet Post # of 239288

Wrong. I already proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. "You can't get $10 million for them" is not only your opinion, not only irrelevant, but quite possibly is false downright.

When a company makes an acquisition, they acquire all sorts of items at the cost its target acquired them at. The liquidation value is completely irrelevant. A company acquires things like office furtuniture, equipments, machines, trucks, and even accounts receivable who's liquidation and 2nd market value would be pennies on the dollar if they tried to "Ebay them" but they still get transferred over at full face value and get written off over time just like any other asset -- that is, when they are used up. This is basic GAAP accounting that matches proper expenses with revenues in the correct timeframe.

The $10 million in media credits get used at the actual media itself is used. If JBII pays for $1 million worth of advertising next quarter, they will expense $1 million against the $10 million asset during that quarter.

Basic stuff.


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Scovanner Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:54:12 PM
Re: Rawnoc post# 220525 Tweet Post # of 239288

You haven't proved anything.

The media credits shouldn't be under current assets. That's all I'm saying to you.

That is unethical and misleading for JBII.


You don't have to reply unless you have a rebuttal.

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Rawnoc Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:03:45 PM
Re: Scovanner post# 220526 Post # of 239288

Wrong again.

"In accounting, a current asset is an asset on the balance sheet which is expected to be sold or otherwise used up in the near future, usually within one year, or one business cycle - whichever is longer. Typical current assets include cash, cash equivalents, accounts receivable, inventory, the portion of prepaid accounts which will be used within a year, and short-term investments."
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"Media credits" is another term for Prepaid Media. Like buying your car insurance one year in advance you have "Car Insurance Credits" listed under current assets.

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Scovanner Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:00:07 PM
Re: ashkelon post# 220528 Post # of 239288

First learn how to read a balance sheet. Thanks.

Second, your 10 million dollar media credits aren't liquid.

Third, The media credits should be placed under other assets not current assets.

That is what is misleading and unethical.


Thanks. Don't reply back to me.

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Rawnoc Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:08:36 PM
Re: Scovanner post# 220530 Post # of 239288

First I can read a balance sheet in my sleep.

Second, current assets don't have to be "liquid" -- that's not the definition of current assets. The #2 entry on virtually all balance sheets is accounts receivable which are anything but liquid.

Third, media credits should be placed under current assets if they are goint to be used up within a year. Because they are current assets in that case.

There's nothing misleading and ethical. Not to mention how irrelevant classifying an asset as "current" vs. "other" is anyway as the TOTAL assets and shareholders equity remains identical in either case.

But in any event, media credits are just like prepaid insurance which is also listed as a current asseet. It's a prepaid upcoming expense.

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Churak Share Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:25:53 PM
Re: Scovanner post# 220530 Post # of 239288

Re a current asset:

Current assets
Main article: Current asset
Current assets are cash and other assets expected to be converted to cash, sold, or consumed either in a year or in the operating cycle, without disturbing the normal operations of a business. These assets are continually turned over in the course of a business during normal business activity.


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From: SteveF7/28/2011 9:52:23 AM
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P2O Machine patent certificate!!!!

Donghe's, of course:



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To: scion who wrote (10035)7/28/2011 9:53:23 AM
From: scion of 34006
 
The Company has restated its 2009 consolidated financial statements previously issued on March 31, 2010 for matters related to the following items:


Rawnoc Share Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:44:12 AM
Re: dreaminbig post# 122716 Post # of 124437

Yes, the RESTATEMENTS were NON-CASH. You think otherwise?

Then you think falsely. The restatements corrected lines on the financials for NON-CASH accounting numbers such as Goodwill, media credits, etc. Not a single penny of CASH items were affected. Real accounting fraud involves making up sales, earnings, hiding cash debt, making up cash balances, SOMETHING. Not non-cash numbers.

JBII used incorrect accounting methods -- reverse merger accounting where they should have used forward merger accounting which had zero effect on revenues, cash flows, etc. The amount they paid (cash) for everything remained unchanged with the restatements. The way the non-cash items were expensed were restated SIX WEEKS after the 10K was filed.

I know this makes for a lousy conspiracy theory and after 2 years of people spending 24/7 trying to find something -- anything -- turned into nothing at all, and I know it's extremely disappointing for a bear to do all that work for nothing....but it is what it is. Onward and upwards. :)

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BRIG_88 Share Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:57:01 AM
Re: Rawnoc post# 122718 Post # of 124437

Well put...nobody is saying JBII didn't make any mistakes..they did...they also FIXED the mistakes.....the SEC is probably going to to fine them for it....but this isn't the catastrophe some are trying to make it out to be....

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dreaminbig Share Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:58:20 AM
Re: Rawnoc post# 122718 Post # of 124438

Restatement

The Company has restated its 2009 consolidated financial statements previously issued on March 31, 2010 for matters related to the following items: (1) the original accounting for the acquisitions of Javaco and Pak-It which was improperly recorded as a reverse merger, whereby pre-acquisition operations of the acquired entities were erroneously reflected in the operations as originally reported; (2) the valuation and subsequent impairment of media credits; (3) the original acquisition of the assets of John Bordynuik, Inc. was improperly accounted for at fair value; and (4) equity issuances. The accompanying financial statements for 2009 have been restated to reflect the corrections. The effect of this restatement to the financial statements is a decrease in total assets of approximately $11,507,000, an increase in net loss of approximately $2,179,000 and a decrease in equity of $11,809,000.

Page 29
sec.gov 

Here is an interesting article about equity issuances.
web.mit.edu 

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To: Steady_on who wrote (9864)7/28/2011 9:59:01 AM
From: SteveF of 34006
 
Why were these images leaked to Zardiw 18 months ago to post on message boards if not to deceptively manipulate the stock price? Seriously, a single good reason to explain this?


"CEO in NYC being wooed by Nasdaq/AMEX:"







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To: Steady_on who wrote (9864)7/28/2011 10:11:38 AM
From: SteveF of 34006
 
Remember the 20 PR's in one day? How'd Zardiw know two weeks before?


01-22-2010 12:35 PM #91
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Talking Huge Announcements coming.......

Expecting HUGE announcements before the CEO goes on his honeymoon on Valentines Day......z



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To: scion who wrote (10023)7/28/2011 10:13:10 AM
From: streetscraper of 34006
 
Is that the same loan with 2 different amounts or 2 different loans?

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