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From: zman6910/21/2011 4:52:50 PM
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China set for rally next week?

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To: robert b furman who wrote (6777)10/22/2011 2:24:57 AM
From: rkchris of 10465
 
So far, looks like a fairly bullish bounce off a higher daily reaction low.....

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To: zman69 who wrote (6796)10/22/2011 8:31:17 AM
From: humble1 of 10465
 
zman: financials, big and small, just might lead the charge north. commercial and industrial loans are trending up:

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To: zman69 who wrote (6797)10/22/2011 9:46:38 AM
From: h_ of 10465
 
That candlestick, if its tail were at least twice as long as its body, would more properly be called a hanging man because it appeared after an uptrend. It doesn't quite meet the required tail length although it has increased volume, but regardless, it's a bearish reversal candle.

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To: h_ who wrote (6801)10/22/2011 11:06:49 AM
From: zman69 of 10465
 
I think you are mixing up your time frames. I could see a bullish hammer on the daily chart as signaling ST exhaustion because the daily is at bonafide overbought status, but the weekly chart is far from overbought, in fact the weekly MACD just now gave a bull cross from below zero line which if anything could signal the start of an uptrend not the exhaustion of one. And that hammer stick I posted was on the weekly chart so I disagree with your interpretation.

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To: zman69 who wrote (6802)10/22/2011 12:09:16 PM
From: h_ of 10465
 
Your chart was a weekly chart, and the previous week formed a candle that could loosely be interpreted as a hanging man (a bearish trend reversal candle) although strictly speaking, its tail is too short since it's less than double the body. You can't have a hammer at the top of an advance, only at the bottom of a fall. It's called a hanging man when the same candle formation as a hammer is formed at the top of an advance. Candle interpretation doesn't rely on overbought or oversold status, but there's nothing preventing you from combining techniques. I still don't understand your interpretation for the above reasons.

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To: h_ who wrote (6803)10/22/2011 12:19:53 PM
From: zman69 of 10465
 
How do you define this is the "top of the advance" on the weekly chart when we are 2 bars off the low and the MACD just now gave a bull cross on this bar?

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To: zman69 who wrote (6804)10/22/2011 12:33:32 PM
From: h_ of 10465
 
Well of course nobody knows whether it's THE top of the advance or in the middle somewhere, but there are two candles with closes below this week's close, so until now, it's the top of the current advance. The point is that the same candlestick has a different name depending on where it appears and it's a reversal candle, not a continuation candle.

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To: h_ who wrote (6805)10/22/2011 12:39:34 PM
From: zman69 of 10465
 
OK now that you provided something to backtest, I can check on historical significance of a weekly hammer stick occurring on 2 consecutive higher lows and higher highs. I'll get back with the results later.

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To: zman69 who wrote (6806)10/22/2011 12:43:29 PM
From: h_ of 10465
 
Cool, I'm interested to know the result of that study. Can we both agree that it's called a hanging man though? Are you going to backtest using the strict definition with the requirement of:

tail = (2 X body) ?

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