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To: TimF who wrote (66879)3/2/2012 5:18:46 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof1 Recommendation   of 85432
 
'Legal'?

Clearly it is.

'Necessary or appropriate'?

You'll have to judge that (for yourself) by the actual results.

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To: TimF who wrote (66880)3/2/2012 5:20:59 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof1 Recommendation   of 85432
 
Re: "Debt restructuring is part of the bankruptcy process. Not part of the bailout."

(Correct. But the initial loans that you refer to were made by the Bush administration just before the election...)

Re: "But it didn't recognize the point that the the pension plans got a larger ownership stake than they would normally be entitled to under bankruptcy law,"

Because that isn't true.

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To: locogringo who wrote (66886)3/2/2012 5:23:12 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof1 Recommendation   of 85432
 
Sure.

(So long as you felt the need to post an entirely non-sequester reply I thought I'd post the reminder so you could see that your remark was ENTIRELY wool-spinning and wild-assed guessing and had nothing to do with what I had actually posted. :-)

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From: DuckTapeSunroof3/2/2012 5:25:56 PM
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Andrew Breitbart: Autopsy planned to determine cause of death

March 2, 2012 | 7:58 am
latimesblogs.latimes.com 


Los Angeles County coroner's officials are trying to determine the exact cause of Andrew Breitbart's unexpected death Thursday at age 43.

Sources said Breitbart appeared to have died of natural causes but an autopsy was planned to determine the specific cause.

"It looks like a heart attack, but no one knows until" an autopsy is done, his father-in-law, actor Orson Bean, told The Times.

PHOTOS: Andrew Breitbart's 10 key media moments

Officials at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center suspect that Breitbart's death was due to natural causes, Bean said.

"He was walking near the house somewhere .... He was taken by paramedics to UCLA and they couldn't revive him," Bean said. "We're devastated. I loved him like a son."

Breitbart is survived by his wife, Susannah; four children, his parents and a sister. The family has not announced memorial arrangements.

Sources said officials will also try to determine whether Breitbart had any underlying health problems that could have contributed to his death, a common tact in such cases.

Breitbart was a Hollywood-hating, mainstream-media-loathing conservative and shot to stardom with two stories in recent years: breaking the story over sexually charged tweets by liberal Rep. Anthony Weiner of New York, a scandal that led to his resignation; and posting a video of Shirley Sherrod, a black employee of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, in which she appeared to make racially charged comments, leading to her firing and then a subsequent apology by the Obama administration when it was later revealed that the video had been heavily edited and her comments portrayed out of context.

Sherrod released a statement saying: "My prayers go out to Mr. Breitbart's family as they cope during this very difficult time. I do not intend to make any further comments."

Breitbart spent his first years helping to edit the Drudge Report and later helped launch the Huffington Post. In 2005, he launched his news aggregation site Breitbart.com, which was designed to counter what Breitbart described as the "bully media cabal" that he says ignores stories at odds with prevailing liberal orthodoxy. His goal, he often said, was to "destroy the institutional left."

His big splash came in 2009, when he posted an undercover video in which a pair of conservative activists posing as a prostitute and her boyfriend asked employees of the community group ACORN for help with a brothel that would house underage Salvadorans. ACORN was embarrassed when some of its workers seemed too helpful; Congress responded by defunding the organization.

The Times' Robin Abcarian visited his office in West Los Angeles in 2010. She wrote: "The command center of Andrew Breitbart's growing media empire is a suite of offices on Sawtelle Boulevard in West Los Angeles with the temporary feel of a campaign office. Only the computers seem firmly anchored."

Breitbart's mother-in-law, Alison Mills Bean, called Breitbart "one of the most genuine people I’ve met in my life.... He always spoke the truth of his heart and no matter what people agreed or disagreed with him he never wavered.

"And he was loved by a lot of people. And I know a lot of people found fault with his points of view ... but everyone loved him. It is a great loss for everybody."

Breitbart's death produced polarizing responses online. Conservatives lamented the loss of a visionary, and attacked the tweets of some liberals who expressed no sadness over Breitbart's passing.

Said Matt Drudge: "In the first decade of the Drudge Report, Andrew Breitbart was a constant source of energy, passion and commitment. We shared a love of headlines, a love of the news, an excitement about what's happening. I don't think there was a single day during that time when we did not flash each other or laugh with each other, or challenge each other. I still see him in my mind's eye in Venice Beach, the sunny day I met him. He was in his mid-20s. It was all there. He had a wonderful, loving family and we all feel great sadness for them today."

"There was no stopping Andrew Breitbart from fighting the good fight with every fiber of his soul," Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) said in Congress. "Goodbye and God bless, Brother Andrew. You are loved and mourned and ever remembered."

Breitbart lived with his family in Westwood. He was adopted by moderately conservative Jewish parents and attended two of L.A.'s most exclusive private schools -- Carlthorp and Brentwood.

His father, Gerald, owned Fox and Hounds, a landmark Tudor-style Santa Monica restaurant that later became the punk rock club Madame Wong's West. His mother, Arlene, was an executive at Bank of America in Beverly Hills and downtown L.A.


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To: locogringo who wrote (66887)3/2/2012 5:31:20 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof2 Recommendations   of 85432
 
Actually health insurance coverage for birth control LOWERS EVERYONE'S COSTS because BOTH pregnancies and abortions cost the insurance companies much more in medical coverage.

This is unlike the 'boner pill' coverage (Viagra, Cialis, etc.) which was forced upon the health insurance companies (and which actually brought about all these state laws mandating birth control coverage anyway... back during the Bush I years). The boner coverage *increases* medical costs (on average) to the insurance companies, and thus *raises*, not lowers, the premiums.

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To: locogringo who wrote (66891)3/2/2012 5:33:44 PM
From: Honey_bee2 Recommendations   of 85432
 
Now let me get this straight. A woman in essence says she's having sex at least three times a day while studying to become a lawyer, is offended when she is spoken of as a "slut"? And she expects taxpayers to pay her expenses for having sex three times a day, but is offended that she is called a prostitute?

Isn't a woman who is paid for sex a prostitute? Isn't an unmarried woman who obviously has multiple partners a slut? (How many men are up to performing three times a day for years on end?)

I liked my word better and wish that Rush would have used it, but maybe it is too Biblical.



Obama calls Sandra Fluke to offer support over Limbaugh

President Obama called Georgetown University Law School student Sandra Fluke to "offer his support to her" Friday, after conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh bashed the student activist as a "slut" and a "prostitute" because she is pushing for employers to pay for contraception. Mr. Obama called Fluke because "he wanted to offer his support to her, he wanted to express his disappointment that she has been the subject of inappropriate personal attacks and to thank her for exercising her rights as a citizen to speak out on an issue of public policy," said White House spokesman Jay Carney, adding the call lasted several minutes.

Read much more: cbsnews.com 

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From: DuckTapeSunroof3/2/2012 5:35:59 PM
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Obama calls Sandra Fluke to offer support over Limbaugh comments

By Lucy Madison
Lucy Madison
Topics Congress
Congress
March 2, 2012 3:41 PM

cbsnews.com 

Updated: 4:39 p.m. ET


President Obama called Georgetown University Law School student Sandra Fluke to "offer his support to her" Friday, after conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh bashed the student activist as a "slut" and a "prostitute" because she is pushing for employers to pay for contraception.

Mr. Obama called Fluke because "he wanted to offer his support to her, he wanted to express his disappointment that she has been the subject of inappropriate personal attacks and to thank her for exercising her rights as a citizen to speak out on an issue of public policy," said White House spokesman Jay Carney, adding the call lasted several minutes.

"I think he, like a lot of people, feels that the kinds of personal attacks that she is - that have been directed her way are inappropriate," Carney said of the president. "The fact that our political discourse has become debased in many ways is bad enough. It is worse when it's directed at a private citizen who was simply expressing her views on a matter of public policy."

"The president expressed to Sandra Fluke that he was disappointed that she was the subject of these crude-of these personal attacks," he continued. "I think that it's fair to say that - reprehensible was my word, but look, these were unfortunate attacks that were leveled against her and the president feels that way."

"Unfortunate?" asked CBS News chief White House correspondent Norah O'Donnell.

"They were, inappropriate and reprehensible," Carney elaborated. "But the point is the president called her to thank her for speaking out on a matter and doing so with great poise on a matter-on a public policy matter and to express his disappointment that she had been subjected to these kinds of attacks."

There has been a growing backlash against Limbaugh since he made the comments on Wednesday, with politicians of all stripes decrying the language as insulting and inappropriate.

At least one company, a mattress retailer called The Sleep Train, has said it will no longer advertise during Limbaugh's radio show due to the negative comments.

Both the Georgetown University Law Center and Georgetown University president have responded to the attacks, as have a number of women's organizations.

A group of more than 200 faculty members, administrators and students from the Georgetown University Law Center and other law schools released a statement condemning the "personal attacks" against Fluke, and lauded her "courage" in defending and advocating "her beliefs about an important issue of widespread concern."

"She has done so with passion and intelligence," the statement said. "And she has been rewarded with the basest sort of name-calling and vilification, words that aim only to belittle and intimidate. As scholars and teachers who aim to train public-spirited lawyers, no matter what their politics, to engage intelligently and meaningfully with the world, we abhor these attacks on Ms. Fluke and applaud her strength and grace in the face of them."

Georgetown University President John DeGioia decried Limbaugh's comments as "misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation of the position of our student."

In his radio show Friday, Limbaugh said he thought it was "touching" that Mr. Obama reached out personally to Fluke.

"Oh that's touching, Obama just called Sandra Fluke to make sure she's all right," Limbaugh said. "That is so compassionate, what a great guy."

He continued to defend his comments from Wednesday, arguing that it was "insulting" that Fluke and other women's health advocates would ask taxpayers to fund for contraception for "people who want to have sex without consequences."

"All of the sudden we're told that people who want to have sex without consequences, we have to pay for it. And if we object, we're somehow Neanderthal," Limbaugh said. "Out of nowhere this comes up, and to me this is insulting."

Fluke, a women's health activist who says her friend lost an ovary due to lack of contraceptive care, was turned away from a House oversight hearing on the White House's contraception rule, where she had hoped to testify. Instead, she told her story in a mock congressional hearing later in the month. In her testimony, Fluke largely discussed the high cost of contraception and the important medical benefits it can offer women.


In a statement Friday afternoon, the women's organization NOW called for Clear Channel Communications to "pull the plug on Limbaugh's gilded microphone immediately."

"Limbaugh's targeting of Sandra Fluke was way out of line, even for him. Limbaugh is free to disagree all he wants with Fluke -- a Georgetown Law student who testified before a congressional committee in support of health care coverage for birth control -- but calling her a 'slut' and a 'prostitute' on air is unacceptable. After sparking outrage, Limbaugh took to the airwaves again yesterday to suggest that if Fluke wants contraception to be fully covered, she should post videos of herself having sex online so Limbaugh and others can watch," said NOW president Terry O'Neill.

CBS News chief White House correspondent Norah O'Donnell contributed to this report.


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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (66912)3/2/2012 5:41:24 PM
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The GOP’s vagina monologue

By Dana Milbank,
Friday, March 2, 4:37 PM
The Washington Post

washingtonpost.com 


When will Republicans stop their vagina monologue?

March is federally recognized as Women’s History Month, and Republicans have been celebrating the occasion in a most unusual style: with a burst of interest in women’s private parts.

On Thursday, the Senate took up an amendment proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) that would allow employers to deny women birth-control coverage if the employer found the pill morally objectionable.

About 100 miles south of Washington on that same day, Virginia legislators passed legislation requiring a woman to be offered an ultrasound image of her fetus before aborting it. The legislation, which opponents say could also require some women who have miscarriages to be offered ultrasonic images of their dead fetuses, is the successor of a bill that would have required women to undergo an invasive “transvaginal ultrasound.”

Still on Thursday, the industrious Virginia House of Delegates also approved legislation bestowing rights on people, including a father, to bring a lawsuit over the death of the fetus.

On Wednesday, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, a powerful influence among Republican lawmakers, described as a “slut” the law-school student invited by House Democrats to testify in support of birth control. “It makes her a prostitute,” Limbaugh said of the woman, blocked last month by House Republicans from testifying on what became an all-male panel. “She wants to be paid to have sex.”

On Tuesday, Oklahomans held a protest at the state capitol to oppose a bill, passed by the state Senate and now being taken up by the House, that would bestow “personhood” on fetuses — one of many such efforts across the nation. Democrat Judy McIntyre, one of just four women in the 48-member state Senate, was so upset that, according to the Oklahoman newspaper, she held a protest sign proclaiming: “If I wanted the government in my womb, I’d [expletive] a senator.”

Democrats think they have a political winner in the Republicans’ fascination with reproduction at a time when economic production is what voters have in mind. The party is raising money with a petition against the “ Republican War on Women,” and 11 Democratic women running for the U.S. Senate are using the occasion to launch a fundraising tour.


They are attempting to tie together everything from last year’s effort to defund Planned Parenthood to the proposed repeal of Obamacare (which expanded coverage of mammography and birth control). And Obama campaign strategists tell me they are confident that the two leading Republican presidential candidates, a Mormon and a devout Catholic, will have difficulty beating the rap that the party is obsessed with reproduction.

Evidence that the Republicans realize they’re in a pickle: Mitt Romney spontaneously flip-flopped on his initial opposition to the Blunt amendment in the Senate, which would provide employers with a moral opt-out from contraception coverage and other elements of Obamacare. Romney first said that “questions about contraception within a relationship between a man and a woman, husband and wife, I’m not going there.” But he quickly reversed himself in favor of the amendment, aligning himself with Rick Santorum, who has voiced doubts about the constitutional protections for birth control.

More evidence: After championing the Blunt amendment, Republican leaders backed away from their demands for a vote on the provision. And Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), an early proponent of the amendment after hearing about the issue during a Catholic Mass, disappeared from the debate. So Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) wound up forcing a vote on the provision, which was narrowly defeated Thursday afternoon.

“Today, the Senate will vote on an extreme, ideological amendment to the bipartisan transportation bill,” Reid said, kicking off Thursday’s debate. “This amendment takes aim at women’s access to health care.”

The Republican Senate leader, Mitch McConnell (Ky.), made no mention of birth control in his reply, countering that “it is not within the power of the federal government to tell anybody what to believe, or to punish them for practicing those beliefs.”

Most other Republicans followed McConnell’s lead in avoiding mention of contraception. Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (Utah), however, said the provision in the health care law requiring preventive medical coverage for women is “questionable policy,” and he accused the administration of “deferring to its feminist allies” by mandating contraceptive coverage.

After the amendment went down to defeat, its sponsor gave a General MacArthur. “I’m confident this issue is not over,” Blunt said. “It won’t be over until the administration figures out how to accommodate people’s religious views as it relates to these new mandates.”

The monologue will continue.

danamilbank@washpost.com

© The Washington Post Company

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To: Honey_bee who wrote (66911)3/2/2012 5:52:33 PM
From: locogringo2 Recommendations   of 85432
 
(How many men are up to performing three times a day for years on end?)

Mentally or physically? :--)

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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (66913)3/2/2012 5:58:57 PM
From: locogringo3 Recommendations   of 85432
 
How upset was the media (AND YOU!!!!) when:

1. Bill Maher, (million dollar Obama donor) repeatedly called Sarah Palin a C*NT on nationwide tv?

2. Bill Maher also slimed Michele Bachmann repeatedly.

3. When Letterman accused a young age 14 girl named Palin of being RAPED and KNOCKED UP by Alex Rodriguez at the stadium in New York. Yes, it was mentioned, but not hourly on the evening news.

Now you and Obama_THE TOTAL FAILURE are outraged because a 30 year old slut law student can't afford her sex game for $5 month at Walmart, and wants us (taxpayers) to support her habits?

Only in Liberal America.

Are you telling me that Obama the TOTAL SCUMBAG would rather talk about BC pills, than the economy, gas prices, jobs, or his total lack of knowledge about anything?

Kind of sad to be in your position to support such a LOSER..........

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