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To: Keith Feral who wrote (2136)3/25/2010 3:30:32 PM
From: CrayUSA   of 3966
 
BAC--Looking better and better.

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To: CrayUSA who wrote (2137)3/25/2010 3:51:28 PM
From: Keith Feral   of 3966
 
I don't know, I took the liberty of dumping most of my Citi today. I also reduced my position in BAC to use the opportunity to realize some gains. Been a long time since I had an excuse to do any profit taking in BAC. It was a long winter for BAC.<g>

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To: CrayUSA who wrote (2137)3/25/2010 4:41:47 PM
From: djia101362   of 3966
 
It's funny when you hear talking heads on TV saying stuff like the yield curve will begin flattening so the upside in bank stocks is over. The earnings won't come from the yield curve, the decrease in the additions to reserves will create the earnings explosion for banks.

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To: Keith Feral who wrote (2138)3/25/2010 9:44:40 PM
From: djia101362   of 3966
 
Volume always precedes price. If yesterday and today's volume is any indication the big move up is just beginning.

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To: djia101362 who wrote (2140)3/25/2010 9:50:21 PM
From: Keith Feral   of 3966
 
I think BAC's trading range is ready to go up a notch. However, there are still some short term gains to be realized on these frothy spikes. BAC is ready to head towards $22, but it's not gonna happen in a single day. The $15 to $17 range looks like it's heading towards $17 to $19.

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To: Keith Feral who wrote (2141)3/25/2010 10:44:23 PM
From: djia101362   of 3966
 
Baby steps is better than no steps. I think we'll see huge resistance at $20 but once it clears $20 your $22 target could come very quickly.

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To: djia101362 who wrote (2142)3/26/2010 9:05:56 AM
From: Keith Feral   of 3966
 
I'm not complaining at all. It's nice to wash out some gains and watch the stock pull back a little. I would have rather seen it open weak than strong today, just to get back in under $18.

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To: djia101362 who wrote (2139)3/26/2010 2:22:47 PM
From: Keith Feral   of 3966
 
Yield curve is not going to flatten for years. When the FED does begin to hike interest rates, 10 year Treasury yields will increase proportionately. I'm sure the 10 year will probably be north of 4% long before the FED ever makes the first move. It will take a couple of quarters for the FED to take any kind of action, as the housing market digests another year worth of inventory.

The FED can't go on blaming low rates for the last housing bubble, which was the direct result of bad lending and hyperinflated prices after 30 years of consistent gains. Even if we are back to 1999 price levels for housing, things weren't exactly cheap back in 1999 or 2000, which made the prices in 2004 to 2007 that much worse.

I'm all for the banks trying to make some adjustments to underwater borrowers. It makes more economic sense to modify some of those bad loans.

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From: larryjoe3/26/2010 2:37:38 PM
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housing prices have dropped 35% from the 2005 peak...

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From: Qualified Opinion3/29/2010 5:10:20 PM
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Bove Says Shares of U.S. Banks May Quadruple by 2012 (Update2)
By Rita Nazareth

March 24 (Bloomberg) -- Bank stocks, the leaders of the biggest U.S. market rally since the 1930s, may quadruple over the next two to three years as loan defaults decrease, according to Dick Bove of Rochdale Securities LLC.

“Stocks are going to go much higher,” Bove, who is based in Lutz, Florida, said in a telephone interview. “The catalyst is the reduction in loan losses. That’s all that investors in banks care about.”

The Standard & Poor’s 500 Financials Index has risen 162 percent from a 17-year low one year ago as the U.S. government spent, lent or guaranteed more than $8 trillion and the Federal Reserve kept its benchmark interest rate near zero to end the worst recession in seven decades.

Bove said the financial industry has already seen a “bottom” in writedowns from the collapse of the subprime mortgage market that spurred losses of almost $1.8 trillion, freezing credit markets in 2008.

Financial shares had the only gain today among 10 industries in the S&P 500, climbing 0.2 percent.

A decline in provisions for bad loans may overshadow industry profits, he said. Earnings at banks in the S&P 500 are projected to fall 33 percent in the first quarter, before rebounding 63 percent in the second quarter, according to the average analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

Improvement in Loan Quality

“Investors have decided they will bet on that rather than worrying about fundamentals,” he said. “The fundamentals are not good. The first quarter will not show any particular strength in bank earnings. What it will show is an improvement in loan quality and that’s all people are looking at.”

Nearly 60 percent of the “big public companies” will lose money in the first quarter, Bove said.

Bove is the highest-ranked analyst at estimating share- price movements of Morgan Stanley, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The results of his predictions have been mixed. He recommended selling Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. stock four months before it collapsed, helping investors avoid a 65 percent plunge in the shares. Bove raised it to “buy” on Aug. 21, 2008, and Lehman filed the world’s largest bankruptcy three weeks later.

While Bove has “buy” ratings for Bank of America Corp., Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Citigroup Inc., he said investors should sell SunTrust Banks Inc. and Wells Fargo & Co.

SunTrust

SunTrust is “not making any money,” he said. Analysts on average estimate the lender will lose $1.41 a share this year, excluding some items, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. “Why would I want to buy into a company that isn’t going to make any money for 12 to 18 months?”

On Wells Fargo, Bove said that “the earning assets of the company are declining, the non-interest income is declining and the non-interest expenses are rising.”

SunTrust’s spokesman Michael McCoy and Wells Fargo’s spokeswoman Julia Tunis Bernard declined to comment.

Bove expects that the dividends at U.S. banks will increase over the next two to three years. The S&P 500 Financials Index pays 1.05 percent of its average share price in dividends, compared with 1.83 percent for the S&P 500, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

“The government at the moment is saying you can’t do it,” he said. “These banking companies were at one point in time yield vehicles and they were owned by income funds. The banks are going to get back to being that type of investment.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Rita Nazareth in New York at rnazareth@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: March 24, 2010 16:42 EDT
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