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To: Robohogs who wrote (5091)3/24/2012 6:07:10 AM
From: dealmakr    of 5710
 
Hi Jon and all,

Facebook IPO I think is lending some weight to the rally, will be a lot of cash around when they get er done.

Momo's like CMG,PCLN,AAPL still trending up, had my short CMG 420 calls of 03/23 expire and would have taken exercise if they didn't. Insiders dumping huge amounts of stock here and looks way overbot. Earnings happen on around 04/19 before April expiration so vol should remain fairly good and will be looking to open another round next week. CMG trading on Friday looked weaker as stock gapped down pre market and really didn't recover, may be getting tired.

PCLN with that 1000 new price target form some analyst got a big boost. Tough to get in front of this one, but if you look out a few months, huge prem on the call side for taking the risk. Also company sold 1b convertible debt offering and bot back a small slice of stock with some proceeds, what will they do with the rest of the dough and who hit the door for around 264,000 shares below market when it was done on 03/12, I guess that you have to ask Goldman.. Borrowing money at a 1% rate makes a lot of sense with the conversion price @ about 965/share before 12/17, good way to raise money with a highly valued stock. Link to the 8-K.

biz.yahoo.com 

1Q window dressing takes place next week and earnings season coming soon after. Will be looking at how these stocks are trading going into next Friday. Also sold a few CJES Apr 17.5 puts and some VLY Sep 12 puts. Still don't want a lot of exposure to NP's here overall and am picking just a few to trade with a lot of my positions closing with the Apr expiration.

Good trading

dealmakr

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To: dealmakr who wrote (5093)3/24/2012 7:25:06 AM
From: Robohogs   of 5710
 
Thanks Deal. I was over-committed to mkt in general and backed off some. I like CJES but donated my position to the gods. Will eventually re-enter. I have a YOKU position. SOHU higher quality. I used to use QIHU but Citron scared me away a few months back!! Stock had rallied anyway - have not looked lately. EDIT - just looked at QIHU - Citron getting crucified on that call but not giving up.

Seems like we are looking at same names for hedges. I was thinking too of shorting CMG into earnings. Do you also follow CRM or LULU? I did use RL successfully very ST a while back.

And with market likely staying up for Facebook, I am more strangling my own names rather than shorting high flyers. I am margin over weight two small bios right now which is hampering me but does control my leverage levels. I do always prefer several high margin level stocks for this reason. I did donate some to gods to free capital this week. I did shift into some strangles and added longer dated paper to maintain premium dollar exposures though.

I will re-short AAPL spreads this week - do you use spreads for the high flyers? It helps control risk and margin, but losses can be larger if stock moves whole range. I took several small losses as I shifted AAPL positions only to have stock move back into original range I used from earlier in the week and then penetrate my short puts area for all of 15 minutes. Kept me on high edge all week and ate 50% of time for 10% of exposure and profits. And I mis-traded removing a late hedge at worst point (decided peg level had moved to 600 from 595 and took losses on a 595 short call hedge against my 595 puts only to have stock come right back in - ugh).

I also played the AMZN 195 peg but took off short call component at BE late when it appeared to leave the peg. Made good money on put side but did take that off at close since I did not want the weekend exposure if it had moved ITM on close. For regular trades, I will take delivery but not for peg plays. I should have used GOOG as peg too. AMZN and GOOG are usually good to use post-noon but AAPL frequently closes mid-strike.

On the BKS play from last week, I ended up with modest losses offsetting part of my gain. I had a notice from E*TRADE that they would buy in the position due to no borrow at some random time by noon, and I did not want them buying them in at market. So, I ended up buying them in near the high of the day but at controlled prices. Stock started down as soon as I was finished. Of course I had waited a while before buying it. It is always funny how the stock seems to know your position. The stock rebounded late so not too upset by this trade. But it is hard to work a trade when you don't know when your broker will use a market order at any point perhaps paying a dime or $.15 higher than necessary.

Sorry for the long note, but one last point to make. I have noticed that stocks I take delivery on whether long or short frequently fade the move on the open on Monday (I.e., if the stock moves on a Friday expiration in such a way as to make me end up being short, it frequently falls on the Monday and vise versa). Of course BKS did not follow that pattern. That is the first time in quite a while for me actually. I do still however fight taking deliveries on most stocks whether long or short.

My favorite trick is to sell an in the money put or call which takes the opposite position of what is about to be assigned. Say I am short a $15 call on a $15.50 stock. If it looks like I will be assigned, I frequently will sell the $16 put therefore getting assigned on both positions and ending up with no position. This is frequently a whole lot cheaper to accomplish than to buy in the short calls. You can often get a nice premium for the offsetting sale as opposed to paying a premium for the buy-in.

Jon

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From: Robohogs3/24/2012 8:32:29 AM
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oaktreecapital.com 

Jon

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To: Robohogs who wrote (5094)3/25/2012 7:28:53 AM
From: dealmakr    of 5710
 
"will re-short AAPL spreads this week - do you use spreads for the high flyers? It helps control risk and margin, but losses can be larger if stock moves whole range. I took several small losses as I shifted AAPL positions only to have stock move back into original range I used from earlier in the week and then penetrate my short puts area for all of 15 minutes. Kept me on high edge all week and ate 50% of time for 10% of exposure and profits. And I mis-traded removing a late hedge at worst point (decided peg level had moved to 600 from 595 and took losses on a 595 short call hedge against my 595 puts only to have stock come right back in - ugh)."

Hi Jon,

I had an AAPL weekly strangle 540P / 660 C expire last week credit of about a buck along with some short 635 calls. Shows you my taste for getting too close to the flame, but just used my available margin to generate a few bucks of income for what I perceive as fairly low risk, also have some 645 calls short for 03/30. In trying to trade the peg, its not too much of my game anymore with the high flyers and don't want the margin exposure too close to the strike at this time, but thats just me. CRM just another momo along with LULU and many others and there is just so much risk and margin that I want to use so I have stayed away from them for now, last traded CRM when it was under 100, but haven't played lately.

I did read Citron's writeup of QIHU and see many valid points, but no play there either for me as put prem is just a bit too high to buy as well as I don't want the risk of selling NP's if it all falls apart or naked calls to get squeezed. SOHU, have traded in the past and being that its a real company feel a lot more comfortable position trading a piece.

Stocks like BKS that are subject to random buyins being heavily shorted aren't my favorite either as I don't like feeling like an orange going into the squeezer, just my opinion.

I have also used your trick of writing an offsetting option to flatten a position prior to expiration and yes, you can probably get a better result a lot of times by doing this rather than buying back the options and getting hit with the commish and spread, not always, but works ok.

Good trading

dealmakr

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To: dealmakr who wrote (5096)3/25/2012 11:01:50 AM
From: Robohogs   of 5710
 
Thanks deal,

I agree with most of what you wrote. One of the services I follow actually has recommended a short way out strangle for next week on Apple using spreads as opposed to out-right short puts and calls. That is my likely play. I am already long a modestly out of the money put spread. It will eventually correct probably more than most expect. In terms of margin hits I hear you there brother and only use marginal margin capability for the trades. That means these are the first choice to go if I need to free capital for other purposes or get bogged down for some reason.

Jon

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To: dealmakr who wrote (5096)3/26/2012 9:44:14 AM
From: Mark Mandel   of 5710
 
Looked into weekly aapl strangle and the margins were huge. Decided to paper trade this week to see what would happen.

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To: Mark Mandel who wrote (5098)3/26/2012 10:18:56 AM
From: dealmakr    of 5710
 
Hi Mark,

I usually only trade AAPL strangles etc when I have a lot of available margin and try and squeeze out a few quid from a short term out of the money play. You can get caught real fast by any sudden market move and should be ready to adjust the position accordingly. If you don't feel real comfortable, I would suggest staying away from this type of play as the rewards can be smaller than the perceived risks. On a way out AAPL strangle, you are laying about 40-1 margin vs. prem received and thats at optimum timing prior to weekend theta decay like the 645C - 550P which could have been written for around a buck last Friday, but subjects you to exposure over the weekend.

Good trading

dealmakr

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To: dealmakr who wrote (5099)3/27/2012 8:19:14 AM
From: dealmakr 1 Recommendation   of 5710
 
Another website for options data worth a look for order flow;

whatstrading.com 

dealmakr

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To: dealmakr who wrote (5100)3/31/2012 4:17:11 AM
From: dealmakr    of 5710
 
A traders blog worth a read;

tylerstrading.com 

dealmakr

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To: Keith J who wrote (5090)4/4/2012 11:33:03 AM
From: Keith J   of 5710
 
Sold some LGF 13 puts today for June and Sept., with strength in Hunger Games franchise.

KJ

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