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To: Cogito who wrote (3722)5/25/2012 9:18:33 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad   of 4372
 
Seems to me he's got that sussed out.

Such a gorgeous rig, I'd be ashamed to plug wires into it! :-)

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From: Siber5/26/2012 3:52:13 AM
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My friend, was diagnosed with lung cancer almost one year to the day after being diagnosed with kidney cancer and having the affected kidney removed. I'm feeling positive about her though.

The thing is, she has to travel through the U.S. then the Canadian border to get her treatments or have testing done, and the Canadian then U.S. border to get home (four borders, round trip). Whenever she gets a radiation or chemo treatment the U.S. border goes on high alert. They pick up on either the radiation or the chemo each and every time...and each and every time she gets hauled into the office to provide proof she is taking cancer treatments. She has even gotten out of the car and walked across the border to be picked up on the other side, and the bells and whistles still go off.

The obvious conclusion is that each and every one of us driving or walking through the U.S. border somehow get zapped with something to get scanned. This scan must be very powerful to get through the metal and steel surrounding a car.

She has never been stopped going through the Canadian border. They apparently don't zap their travellers

We already know that too many x-rays aren't healthy. A scan that can penetrate metal and steel and determine what's inside our bodies surely can't be healthy either.

Some of us cross the border several times a week, some a few times a day, and are being zapped with something in the process. What is this constant scanning (or whatever it is) doing to us? Can't be good.

Hell, for all I know the years of daily zapping is what caused her cancers in the first place.

Any thoughts about what this might be?

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To: Siber who wrote (3724)5/26/2012 4:48:28 AM
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I'd like to know what kind of radiation treatments you're talking about. Are they implanting radioactive substances in her body? If so, that would be detectable at very close distances using geiger counters. If she is simply being treated with beams of radiation, which is the far more common mode of treatment, then her body would have no residual radioactivity.

As for chemotherapy, there are no scans of any kind that could possibly detect she has had it.

I say these things as a person who has had quite a bit of both chemo and radiation, over the past five and a half years.

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To: Cogito who wrote (3725)5/26/2012 5:26:29 AM
From: Siber1 Recommendation   of 4372
 
Yes, I do know they give her some kind of radiation pills or infusion (I'm not sure which) for tests even now that her radiation treatments are over and she's now taking chemo. Whatever it is they're giving her takes several days to dissipate so she doesn't cross the border again once she's home until she knows she's clear so she doesn't get hauled into the office.

There are no geiger counters at our border unless they are in one of the many white boxes stationed at the border aimed at every angle of the car, as well as one box that has a bright yellow light go off as we're passing by. I always thought it was taking a picture which is unnecessary really, because we have to show our picture ID anyway at the booth.

Besides, you said a geiger counter has to be at a very close distance. These aren't all that close. And even if they were, could a geiger counter detect radiation inside a person's body through a car?

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I'm sorry you've had to go through that. I know how the chemo treatments knock her down pretty hard. She feels much better when she gets her 2 weeks off. I hope the treatments have helped you and that you're on the road to recovery. I hope they're helping my friend.

She didn't seem to have any problems with the radiation treatments for her kidney cancer though.

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To: Siber who wrote (3726)5/26/2012 8:49:10 AM
From: Stock Puppy   of 4372
 
Scanning doesn't necessarily mean applying something like X-rays

Just as your eye detects light - the light enters the eye, the eye doesn't emit anything to be able to see except tears :-)


They're likely using radiation detectors (to split hairs, not necessarily Geiger counters) - detection of radiation is freaking sensitive to even small amounts of radiation. A few feet away the signal drops rapidly but it only takes very little to make things click. Doubling background signal is very easy - about a foot away from a CRT you double the signal (I tried measuring that once :-) - a few inches you get 6 times background.


Some radioactive materials are easily shielded (alpha emitters) - a car would shield and others require a good chunk of lead. Depends on the isotope.

It's difficult to know what's inside the boxes.

Possible the box with a yellow light is just a box with a yellow light :-)

They could be scanning - I would imagine if they're using x-rays there would be some warning somewhere.

They could scan with millimeter wave or terahertz which is a very non-invasive form of imaging (used in some airports).

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To: Siber who wrote (3724)5/26/2012 8:51:07 AM
From: Lahcim Leinad   of 4372
 
Any thoughts about what this might be?
Radiation patients set off border scanners - Health - CBC News

This is likely what they use for scanning:

TSA VM250 | TSA Systems | Vehicle Radiation Portal Monitors | RPM

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From: Stan5/26/2012 12:42:05 PM
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Neil MacGregor: 2600 years of history in one object

A TED talk - fascinating and informative

"A clay cylinder covered in Akkadian cuneiform script, damaged and broken, the Cyrus Cylinder, is a powerful symbol of religious tolerance and multi-culturalism. In this enthralling talk Neil MacGregor, Director of the British Museum, traces 2600 years of Middle Eastern history through this single object."

ted.com 

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From: TimF5/26/2012 1:32:03 PM
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The Bridge of Science - Rome


500px.com 

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To: Lahcim Leinad who wrote (3728)5/27/2012 3:39:31 AM
From: Siber   of 4372
 
Thanks Michal...that helped a bit.

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To: Stock Puppy who wrote (3727)5/27/2012 3:54:39 AM
From: Siber   of 4372
 
Possible the box with a yellow light is just a box with a yellow light :-)


This is someone travelling through the Blaine, WA border.

Fast forward to 3:44 and you will see a white box on the first pole on the lower left trained at the rear of the car (probably the license plate).

At 3:46 the second pole (lower than the first) flashes yellow and the last higher pole closest to the booth flashes green. You can actually hear the flash when near the one that flashes yellow.

At 3:58 there are two more smaller white boxes pointed at the side of the car.

There are other white boxes but aren't visible very well in this video.


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