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To: RMF who wrote (296)11/24/2007 10:20:09 AM
From: Amelia Carhartt11 Recommendations   of 571
 
True, if you want to continue to let the power elite control and destroy this country. There is no difference between mainline Republicans and Democrats. Feed the public pap, make 'em feel good and rob 'em blind.

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From: Glenn Petersen11/24/2007 9:17:23 PM
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lib¿er¿tar¿ian

n. 1. a person who believes in the doctrine of the freedom of the will

2. a person who believes in full individual freedom of thought, expression and action

3. a freewheeling rebel who hates wiretaps, loves Ron Paul and is redirecting politics


By Nick Gillespie and Matt Welch

Sunday, November 25, 2007; B01

How to make sense of the Ron Paul revolution? What's behind the improbably successful (so far) presidential campaign of a 72-year-old 10-term Republican congressman from Texas who pines for the gold standard while drawing praise from another relic from the hyperinflationary 1970s, punk-rocker Johnny Rotten?

Now with about 5 percent (and climbing) support in polls of likely Republican voters, Paul set a one-day GOP record by raising $4.3 million on the Internet from 38,000 donors on Nov. 5 -- Guy Fawkes Day, the commemoration of a British anarchist who plotted to blow up Parliament and kill King James I in 1605. Paul's campaign, which is three-quarters of the way to its goal of raising "$12 Million to Win" by Dec. 31, didn't even organize the fundraiser -- an independent-minded supporter did.

When a fierce Republican foe of the wars on drugs and terrorism is able, without really trying, to pull in a record haul of campaign cash on a day dedicated to an attempted regicide, it's clear that a new and potentially transformative force is growing in American politics.

That force is less about Paul than about the movement that has erupted around him -- and the much larger subset of Americans who are increasingly disillusioned with the two major political parties' soft consensus on making government ever more intrusive at all levels, whether it's listening to phone calls without a warrant, imposing fines of half a million dollars for broadcast "obscenities" or jailing grandmothers for buying prescribed marijuana from legal dispensaries.

Paul, who entered Congress in 1976, has been dubbed "Dr. No" by his colleagues because of his consistent nay votes on federal spending, military intervention in Iraq and elsewhere, and virtually all expansions of federal power (he cast one of three GOP votes against the original USA Patriot Act). But his philosophy of principled libertarianism is anything but negative: It's predicated on the fundamental notion that a smaller government allows individuals the freedom to pursue happiness as they see fit.

Given such a live-and-let-live ethos, it's no surprise that at a time when people run screaming from such labels as "liberal" and "conservative," you can hardly turn around in Washington, Hollywood or even Berkeley without running into another self-described libertarian.

The lefty Internet titan Markos "Daily Kos" Moulitsas penned a widely read manifesto last year pegging the future of his party to the "Libertarian Democrat." The conservative pundit Jonah Goldberg declared this year that he's "much more of a libertarian" lately. Bill Maher, Christopher Hitchens, Tucker Carlson, "South Park" co-creator Matt Stone -- self-described libertarians all. Surely it's a milestone when Drew Carey, the new host of that great national treasure "The Price Is Right," becomes an outspoken advocate of open borders, same-sex marriage, free speech and repealing drug prohibition. As Michael Kinsley, an arch purveyor of conventional wisdom, wrote recently in Time magazine, such people are going to be "an increasingly powerful force in politics."

Kinsley is hardly alone in recognizing this trend. In April 2006, the Pew Research Center published a study suggesting that 9 percent of Americans -- more than enough to swing every presidential election since 1988 -- espouse a "libertarian" ideology that opposes "government regulation in both the economic and the social spheres." That is, a good chunk of your fellow citizens are fiscally conservative and socially liberal; in bumper-stickerese, they love their countrymen but distrust their government. Anyone looking to win elections -- or to make sense of contemporary U.S. politics -- would do well to understand the deep and growing reservoir that Paul is tapping into.

Though relatively unknown at the national level, Paul is hardly an unknown legislative quantity. A former Libertarian Party presidential candidate, he has at various times called for abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, the CIA and several Cabinet-level agencies. A staunch opponent of abortion, he nonetheless believes that federal bans violate the more basic principle of delegating powers to the states. A proponent of a border wall with Mexico (nativist CNN host Lou Dobbs fawned over Paul earlier this year), he is the only GOP candidate to come out against any form of national I.D. card.

Such positions may not be fully consistent or equally attractive, but Paul's insistence on a constitutionally limited government has won applause from surprising quarters. Singer Barry Manilow donated the maximum $2,300 to his campaign; the hipster singer-songwriter John Mayer was videotaped yelling "Ron Paul knows the Constitution!" and 67,000 people have signed up for Paul-related Meet Up pages on the Internet. On ABC's "This Week" recently, George Will half-jokingly cautioned his fellow pundits, "Don't forget my man Ron Paul" in the New Hampshire primary. Fellow panelist Jake Tapper seconded the emotion, saying, "He really is the one true straight talker in this race."

Yet Paul's success has mostly left the mainstream media and pundits flustered, if not openly hostile. The Associated Press recently treated the Paul phenomenon like an alien life form: "The Texas libertarian's rise in the polls and in fundraising proves that a small but passionate number of Americans can be drawn to an advocate of unorthodox proposals." Republican pollster Frank Luntz has denounced Paul's supporters as "the equivalent of crabgrass . . . not the grass you want, and it spreads faster than the real stuff." And conservative syndicated columnist Mona Charen said out loud what many campaign reporters have no doubt been thinking all along: "He might make a dandy new leader for the Branch Davidians."

When conservatives feel comfortable mocking the victims gunned down by Clinton-era attorney general Janet Reno's FBI in Waco, Tex., in 1993, it suggests that a complacent and increasingly authoritarian establishment feels threatened.

And little wonder. In the 1990s, conservative Republicans rose to power by relentlessly attacking Big Government. Yet the minute they took control of both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, they kicked out the jams on even a semblance of fiscal responsibility, signing off on the Medicare prescription drug benefit and building literal and figurative bridges to nowhere. From 2001 to 2008, federal outlays will have grown by an estimated 29 percent in inflation-adjusted terms, according to the Office of Management and Budget.

The biggest Big Government expansion during the Bush era is the one that Americans now despise most: the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, whose direct costs are already an estimated $800 billion, plus 4,000 American lives. Paul's steadfast bring-the-troops-home stance -- not just from Iraq, but Korea and Japan as well -- is the major engine powering his grass-roots success as ostensibly antiwar Democrats in the majority can't or won't do anything on Capitol Hill.

But if war were the only answer for his improbable run, why Ron Paul instead of the perennial peacenik Dennis Kucinich, the Democratic congressman from Ohio whose apparent belief in UFOs is only slightly less kooky than his belief in the efficacy of socialized health care?

Part of the reason is Republican muscle memory. Paul's "freedom message" is the direct descendant of Barry Goldwater's once-dominant GOP philosophy of libertarianism (which Ronald Reagan described in a 1975 Reason magazine interview as "the very heart and soul of conservatism"). But that tradition has been under a decade-long assault by religious-right moralists, neoconservative interventionists and a governing coalition that has learned to love Medicare expansion and appropriations pork.

So Paul's challenge represents a not-so-lonely GOP revival of unabashed libertarianism. All his major Republican competitors want to double down on Bush's wars; none is stressing any limited-government themes, apart from half-hearted promises to prune pork and tinker on the margins of Social Security.

College kids (a key bloc of Paul's support) have seen no recent evidence that the GOP has anything to do with libertarianism. Yet there's no reason to believe that Democrats will do anything useful about the government intrusion that so many young people abhor: the drug war, federal bans on same-sex marriage, online poker prohibitions, open-ended deployments in Iraq.

This is the mile-wide gap in the Maginot line of "serious" Washington politics. Undergrads aren't the only ones weary of war and moralizing, and more interested in exploring new frontiers of technology and culture than in heeding the stale noise coming from inside the Beltway.

More than at any other time over the past two decades, Americans are hungering for the politics and freewheeling fun of libertarianism. And with the dreary prospect of a Giuliani vs. Clinton death match in 2008, that hunger is likely to grow even faster than the size of the federal government or the casualty toll in Iraq. Ron Paul may lose next year's battle -- though not without a memorable fight -- but the laissez-faire agitators he has helped energize will find themselves at the leading edge of American politics and culture for years to come.

gillespie@reason.com

matt.welch@reason.com

Nick Gillespie and Matt Welch are editors at Reason magazine.

washingtonpost.com 

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From: CrashJPMorgan11/26/2007 12:26:40 AM
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All of these facts are unsettling to mainstream organizations and lobby members of special interests who would fall under a Paul presidency. The authoritarian establishment feels threatened according to some observers.

news.monstersandcritics.com 


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To: Amelia Carhartt who wrote (298)11/26/2007 2:27:27 AM
From: RMF   of 571
 
LOL...Gee, we're real lucky that the "power elite" (represented by Gore) didn't get into office.



What we really needed was that "man of the people" Bush to come in and Destroy our Dollar, Borrow us into Bankruptcy, Trash our Credibility in the World and Ruin our Military.


You'll have to excuse me for being so wrong.....

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To: RMF who wrote (301)11/26/2007 9:59:17 AM
From: FreedomForAll   of 571
 
We probably would have gotten both Gore and Bush by this time if Gore had won in 2000 (and then lost in '04.)
Its just tweedle-dumb and tweedle-dumber.
Who really wants any of those politicians.

Any thoughts on a Paul running mate?

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To: FreedomForAll who wrote (302)11/26/2007 10:00:53 AM
From: Bill on the Hill1 Recommendation   of 571
 
Dennis Kucinich

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To: Bill on the Hill who wrote (303)11/26/2007 10:24:51 AM
From: FreedomForAll2 Recommendations   of 571
 
Hi, Bill.
I'd like to hear your rationale for Kucinich but I have strong reservations about him.
How can anyone trust a mainstream politician especially one with ties to Demo party which has been the socialist big-gov party since the late 19th century.
Mr K has little going for him. He opposed the war and the patriot act, but both of those could be as easily explained as a Democrat opposing a Repub admin. Opposition to NAFTA and the WTO might be good, but might as easily be a position to get votes from labor which is still pretty strong force in Cleveland. That's it on the plus side.
On the down side his platform would likely include:
-Creating a single-payer system of universal health care that provides full coverage for all Americans by passage of the United States National Health Insurance Act.
-Guaranteed quality education for all; including free pre-kindergarten and college for all who want it.
-Abolishing the death penalty.
-Preventing the privatization of social security.
-Providing full social security benefits at age 65.
-Creating a cabinet-level "Department of Peace"
-Ratifying the ABM Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol ( a disaster for the economy of the world and the death of the US middle class.)
-Introducing reforms to bring about instant-runoff voting.
-Protecting a woman's right to choose while decreasing the number of abortions performed (NONE OF HIS or govt's BUSINESS)
-Legalizing same-sex marriage. (NONE OF HIS or govt's BUSINESS)
-Creating a balance between workers and corporations.(NONE OF HIS or govt's BUSINESS)
Restoring rural communities and family farms.(NONE OF HIS or govt's BUSINESS)
Strengthening gun control. (unconstituional)

Almost entirely socialist and in favor of increasing govt control. If the Dems wanted someone to take over after they assassinate RP, Mr K would be a great choice.

Mr K's best feature is his wife's looks. He has almost nothing in common with Ron Paul in terms of platform.

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To: Bill on the Hill who wrote (303)11/26/2007 10:58:31 AM
From: Cage Rattler   of 571
 
Gasp! Might as well have Chelsey Clinton.

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To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (299)11/26/2007 11:19:50 AM
From: Lee Lichterman III   of 571
 
FWIW - I just heard a Ron Paul Commercial on XM Radio Bloomburg channel 129

Good Luck,

Lee

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From: kaydee11/26/2007 12:02:20 PM
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Everyone,

Please take a look at this. You would love it, I am sure...

The idea is simply superb!!!! & enjoy those pictures while u r at it...

ronpaulblimp.com 

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