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To: Sam who wrote (93)11/11/2011 12:24:09 PM
From: Sam   of 171
 
Whoops, just saw a typo--"Plus they can just fire workers, the business is in France" should have been, "They can't just fire some workers."

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To: Sam who wrote (94)11/11/2011 12:56:59 PM
From: Sidney Reilly   of 171
 
I thought that was what you meant. This will be really cheap by the time we get through tax selling in December. Could be a real winner next year assuming the China deal is big money. The 4 gig router chip they now have will be available in 2012. That will be part of the China network I'm sure. Do you think existing networks will want to upgrade with this new chip and double their capacity? I've read that video feeds are choking existing networks at peak times now.

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (95)11/11/2011 1:10:04 PM
From: Sam   of 171
 
Well, that has been an important part of the reason I have put money into this company. It is disturbing to me that I haven't read about those things in any of the analyst reports (not that I have read all that many of them). They have focused on the negative things, especially the cash flow situation. I would be the last person to dismiss those concerns, and the fact that they are bleeding cash is a "Like, duh" cause for concern. But they just sold a business for $1.5b. That gives them a lot of cash to work with and was the amount that they were talking about selling it for in the spring, and analysts were all happy with the price back then. The fact that they got the price they were looking for strongly suggests that this was not a distress sale. They were talking back then about bundling their legacy businesses with Genysys for $1.5b. The fact that they couldn't even essentially give away the legacy businesses shows what an albatross they and their future liabilities are for Alcatel. They have to dump them somehow. I think management knows this, and that getting rid of them is key to their goal of becoming cash flow positive next year. I am holding and will likely add to those holdings over the next 3-6 weeks in the belief (hope?) that they find a way to do that. They have the problem that the French govt and unions surely won't make it easy for them, but as it is their other businesses are essentially subsidizing their French work force in essentially moribund businesses. That is why I said, just spin off the business to the workers, keep a minority share for current stockholders but not enough to make them liable for its losses, make the workers face reality. Sooner or later, we all have to face reality, even workers with strong unions and politicians.

If they do manage to detach themselves from the legacy businesses, IMHO, this stock will be a big winner in 2012. But--WTFDIK?

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To: Sam who wrote (96)11/11/2011 1:55:16 PM
From: Sidney Reilly   of 171
 
So it's the "french connection" that is dragging us down. I agree, let the french workers have that and see what they can make with it. They might have to cut their own vacation time and work more.

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From: Sam11/17/2011 9:27:19 AM
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It is never a good sign when a company has to actually say this.


Alcatel-Lucent has enough cash for operations -CFO
BARCELONA | Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:06pm EST

Nov 16 (Reuters) - Franco-American telecom equipment maker Alcatel-Lucent has more than enough cash to run its operations, its chief financial officer reassured on Wednesday.

"Our cash position ... is more than sufficient to cover our operating requirements," Chief Financial Officer Paul Tufano told an investor conference.

Earlier this month Alcatel-Lucent scaled back its profitability goal for the year, raising new doubts about Chief Executive Ben Verwaayen's ability to turn around the long-struggling telecom equipment maker.

Last week Moody's Investors Services cut Alcatel-Lucent's debt rating by a notch, citing its burning through 1 billion euros ($1.4 billion) in cash so far this year.

Tufano said the company can access cash reserves of 2.7 billion to 2.8 billion euros.

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To: Sam who wrote (98)11/17/2011 9:29:38 AM
From: Sam1 Recommendation   of 171
 
On the other hand, there is still a lot of value in the company. But the stock keeps hitting new lows, now around 1.90. Dollars, not Euros!


Ericsson, Alcatel dominate LTE market: Dell'Oro
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:02pm EST

(Reuters) - Ericsson and Alcatel-Lucent won more of the emerging market for LTE wireless network technology in the third quarter, helped by their strong position in the United States, researcher Dell'Oro said. Ericsson controlled 44 percent of the $647 million market in the third quarter, while Alcatel's share rose to 30 percent, Dell'Oro said on Wednesday.

U.S. operators Verizon Wireless and AT&T are the first major operators to build large LTE networks, with Ericsson and Alcatel supplying gear to both carriers.

China's Huawei, a distant No 3 on the market, saw its share shrinking to 8 percent, with Nokia Siemens Networks the fourth.

Equipment vendors are trying to win as many early LTE deals as possible to use them as a reference for other deals.

Operators are expected to invest tens of billions of euros over coming years in the new LTE networks which will offer faster data transfer and additional capacity for their crammed airwaves.

(Reporting By Tarmo Virki in Barcelona)

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To: Sam who wrote (99)11/17/2011 11:50:18 AM
From: Sidney Reilly   of 171
 
ALU seems to have a lot of revenue possibilities for 2012. The stock just keeps getting cheaper and cheaper, now with a P/E of 6 or so!

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (100)11/18/2011 12:35:44 AM
From: John Vosilla   of 171
 
$23B in 2012 so they are leveraged for recovery so could be a monster move in the stock if they get their margins up. But can they cut the fat and get some pricing power going forward. Seems they borrowed $2.5B in 2009-10 to fund capital expenditures as operating cash flow was nil? Been eyeing it a while might be about time?

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To: John Vosilla who wrote (101)11/18/2011 1:43:34 AM
From: Sam   of 171
 
It is worth watching but I am not betting the farm on them. Their cash flow situation has scared a lot of people, and they have unfunded pension liabilities that the French govt won't let them off the hook for. Nothing due next year, but in 2013 they will likely have to make a payment. If macro conditions deteriorate and if the sector doesn't improve, they could be in serious trouble. On the other hand, if things break right for them, they could easily be a triple or more from here over the next couple of years.

We'll have to see.

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To: Sam who wrote (102)11/18/2011 11:04:18 AM
From: Sidney Reilly   of 171
 
News this morning...ALU under pressure to replace the CEO.

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