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To: jackjc who wrote (2235)11/17/2008 5:47:31 PM
From: orkrious   of 5013
 
dup

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To: orkrious who wrote (2316)11/17/2008 6:49:21 PM
From: missedthemark   of 5013
 
Hello orkrious,

Do you have a link to the news, I can't find it out there.

thx

stfruelfa

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To: missedthemark who wrote (2318)11/17/2008 6:51:28 PM
From: orkrious   of 5013
 
it was on my schwab streetsmart pro news feed.

xml.10kwizard.com 


[edit] I see it's not 50% dilution. it's $5.4 mil, still substantial

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To: orkrious who wrote (2319)11/17/2008 7:05:30 PM
From: missedthemark   of 5013
 
yep, I found it.

$5,385,086 or 15,385,960 shares max.
Makes 0.35/share.

Considering the 39.7 m shares out that makes and additional 38.75%.

How will this affect the share price?
Do you think this additional $5M can get us started in the mining world?

stfruelfa

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To: missedthemark who wrote (2320)11/17/2008 7:18:26 PM
From: orkrious   of 5013
 
normally, a secondary doesn't get done at the same price as the closing pricing, and this is significant dilution. I think the stock closed with a bid of .30. I'll be surprised if it gets done at .25. it probably s/b .20, BWTFDIK?

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To: orkrious who wrote (2319)11/17/2008 8:03:39 PM
From: Mr. Aloha6 Recommendations   of 5013
 
This news was out in the SEC filings of October 17 and 22. Today's filing is just an amendment adding the lawyers' consent at the bottom.

It's not a secondary offering being done at the current price, or at a discount to the current price -- it's a shelf registration filing allowing them to "go to market quickly when conditions become more favorable" at any time in the next 3 years:

investopedia.com 

Sometimes current market conditions are not favorable for a specific firm to issue a public offering. For example, suppose the housing market is heading toward a dramatic decline. In this case, it may not be a good time for a home builder to come out with its second offering, as many investors will be pessimistic about companies working in that sector. By using shelf registration, the firm can fulfill all registration-related procedures beforehand and go to market quickly when conditions become more favorable.


The maximum shares to be sold through the shelf registration is 15,385,960, but they don't have to sell that many, or any at all if they obtain financing a different way (e.g., a Silver Wheaton type of deal: Message 24556478 ).

The maximum amount raised will be $5.4 million, and if it's done at a much higher price, the share dilution will be much less. They "will describe the specific terms and manner of offering of our shares of common stock by providing a prospectus supplement each time we offer and issue our shares."

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To: Mr. Aloha who wrote (2322)11/17/2008 8:53:06 PM
From: orkrious   of 5013
 
you are obviously right. I know what a shelf registration is. I'm so disgusted with Merlin I just saw a $5 mil secondary and jumped to conclusions.

It isn't going to make any difference. unless the stock price is higher within a few months they will run short of cash and dilute existing shareholders.

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To: orkrious who wrote (2323)11/18/2008 2:48:18 AM
From: jackjc6 Recommendations   of 5013
 
The future could well see less sh outstanding, not more. Approx 14M wts expire in little over 2 yrs, would need 4 bagger from here to be in the money. BUT with the 1 yr hold after exer, unlike Canada rules, holders would need to be well in the money to chance it.

I believe MMG is trying all avenues to raise cash with non-serious dilution for the next couple months, but will then have the choice of reducing exp and waiting out this financial upheaval. They still have enough cash for that as long as the decision is not long delayed.

The metal ain't going anywhere, main question is how much is there ?? No info for months with much drilling with 5 drills.
I understand they are working on getting a block model update by the PAH guy before he leaves yr end for long vacation. The type of reporting is dependent on the SEC Guide 7 regs, under review for past month or more. Would be a real plus to get more insight on the resource, though good news has not been having much effect on my jrs.

The way Zn supply is being chopped the LME has increased little thus far. I thought the bottom was .73, maybe .48 is it, approx half of cost for much of the prod. As the closure pipeline runs out, and users run down stocks to conserve cash, no longer concerned about supply, then it will all depend on how much demand has fallen. Century mine is considering part or full stoppage, that would be big. Zn was first to fall, may recover first also.

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To: jackjc who wrote (2324)11/18/2008 8:50:49 AM
From: orkrious   of 5013
 
I lost confidence in the CEO a long time ago. I should have sold then.

I kept some shares because whenever I bail like this it's likely the bottom. However, at this point I think the money is far better spent in beaten down gold juniors like NGD.

I am not sure that we will ever have the booming economy we've had in the past. Peak oil will ensure that. What will be the effect of that on zinc? I'm not sure, which is another reason to move on.

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To: orkrious who wrote (2325)11/18/2008 9:35:13 AM
From: jack102son   of 5013
 
Probably there are tough times ahead for all commodity plays. I am just saying that mmg is undervalued even if zinc stays here for 5 years.

They still could be profitable at today prices?

Welcome back aloha and jack. You didn’t post much here in the past weeks. But that is understandable if we look at the stock price. Do you guys think that some buyers will come and buy tones of shares on the market?

What else is new? Zinc doesn’t want to go down anymore?

I see that there is no reason that they wouldn’t mine zinc and silver in Sierra Mojada.





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