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To: pcyhuang who wrote (3441)6/18/2011 11:30:25 PM
From: pcyhuang   of 3904
 
The Summer Rally and the Fibonacci Numbers


Many of you are familiar with the series of Fibonacci numbers.
The first 10 Fibonacci numbers Fn for n = 0, 1, 2, ... , 10 are:

0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55

Now the Nasdaq average has just traded below its 50 days moving average for 12 days, and the 13th day is coming up...the market may have a sharp rebounce based on the Fibonacci series?




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To: pcyhuang who wrote (3442)6/30/2011 8:12:01 PM
From: pcyhuang   of 3904
 
The Amazing Summer Rally





The chart shows the percentage of NYSE stocks that are above the respective 50% moving average. The percentage is now back up to the 50+ level.

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To: pcyhuang who wrote (3442)7/1/2011 7:47:01 AM
From: bruwin   of 3904
 
pcy, do you really believe that the movement and timing of a stock’s price or Market index is related to a mathematical number series ?
No doubt if one went into the relevant charts one would find as many instances that concurred as opposed to those instances that didn’t concur.

It seems to me that the more influential and meaningful factor that would influence a stock’s price or Market index, over the medium to longer term, would be the financial fundamentals that adequately reflected the business performance of a company or group of companies.
In addition, any favourable or unfavourable news about a company’s future prospects may also affect its price.

IMO, I can’t see how these aforementioned relevant aspects could be related to a number series.

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To: bruwin who wrote (3444)7/1/2011 10:16:52 AM
From: E_K_S2 Recommendations   of 3904
 
Hi Bruwin -

You then might be a follower of Chaos Theory:

"The stock markets are said to be nonlinear, dynamic systems. Chaos theory is the mathematics of studying such nonlinear, dynamic systems. Does this mean that chaoticians can predict when stocks will rise and fall? Not quite; however, chaoticians have determined that the market prices are highly random, but with a trend. The stock market is accepted as a self-similar system in the sense that the individual parts are related to the whole. Another self-similar system in the area of mathematics are fractals. Could the stock market be associated with a fractal? Why not? In the market price action, if one looks at the market monthly, weekly, daily, and intra day bar charts, the structure has a similar appearance. However, just like a fractal, the stock market has sensitive dependence on initial conditions. This factor is what makes dynamic market systems so difficult to predict. Because we cannot accurately describe the current situation with the detail necessary, we cannot accurately predict the state of the system at a future time. Stock market success can be predicted by chaoticians. Short-term investing, such as intra day exchanges are a waste of time. Short-term traders will fail over time due to nothing more than the cost of trading. However, over time, long-term price action is not random. Traders can succeed trading from daily or weekly charts if they follow the trends. A system can be random in the short-term and deterministic in the long term."
Manus J. Donahue III

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I used to be a believer in the Efficient Market Theory & Rational Markets but no more. Some of my best Buys were as a result of Human emotions (ie, Panic selling) and buying stocks when nobody wanted them. I do believe that the Psychology of the "Sell" carries a lot of importance when trend following.

Several of these Contrarian Indicators are just snap shots of past events (which may or may not correlate with future events) but are good reflections of investors sentiment at the time.

You are correct that ultimately, the value (and market price) of a company relies on their financial fundamentals. However, the market is not always efficient in pricing a stock accordingly. Just recall the 2008/2009 crash.

EKS

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To: E_K_S who wrote (3445)7/1/2011 4:18:38 PM
From: bruwin   of 3904
 
Hi there E_K_S.

Although I’ve heard of “Chaos Theory”, I can’t say that I’m a “follower” of it, mainly because I don’t know much about it. If there’s anything I do in the way of company analysis that coincides with it, then it’s likely to be purely coincidental.

I just wonder if the variety of theories that have been proposed over the years, in order to find some form of predictive capability of the stock market’s behavior, have much, if any, merit in them. Donahue refers to mathematically related Chaos and Fractal theories. Others look to Fibonacci or Elliott Waves. I’m sure there must be many more out there.
No doubt there will be times when it may look like they're working, but then there'll be other times when they won't. So when does one know, AT THE TIME, whether it's a go or not ?!

Speaking for myself, I just prefer to keep it simple and basic. If I look at a series of a company’s Income Statements and I see the simultaneous, ongoing and appreciable increases in its top line Revenue, ongoing increases, or the maintenance, of a high EBITDA ratio, little or no effect of debt due to its low relative ratio of Interest Expense to EBITDA, a high ratio of Pretax profit to its available Capital and ongoing, appreciable increases in its Bottom Line, then I’ve found that a company that can show that, Quarter after Quarter, and Year after Year, is not a company that is likely to be rejected by informed investors, primarily because a company just couldn’t maintain those attributes if it was performing poorly as a business.

Like yourself, there was a time, long ago, that ”I used to be a believer in the Efficient Market Theory & Rational Markets but no more". And there, I’d say, we are in good company, because ‘ol Warren has publicly stated that, ”I’d be a bum on the street with a tin cup if the Markets were efficient” !

Yes, as you say ” .... the market is not always efficient in pricing a stock accordingly. Just recall the 2008/2009 crash.”
In that regard I’d contend that in situations, such as 2008/2009, many in the market place are acting in fear and uncertainty due to current conditions, be they financial, political, or whatever.
In those situations it’s often a case of getting out of stocks and putting your money into “safer” havens. In those situations the stock price of any company, be it a quality company or a dog, will very likely fall in price.

When the stock price of a company, such as Coca Cola, falls in price, due to no fault of its own, but rather due to bear-like market activity, then, IMO, one needs to keep one’s powder dry and wait for those extraneous conditions to reverse. Because the time will come when its price down trend will change direction, and once that’s confirmed then I’d say that’s the time to invest in such a company again.

Once sanity returns to the market place, the companies that will inevitably rise “from the ashes” will be those whose relevant fundamentals are still sound. And as we’ve often read, the likes of Buffett get very “greedy” at such times because so many others are “fearful” and their wide spread selling has drastically depressed stock prices.
No doubt, it’s not an easy thing to do, as one really has to have "the courage of one’s fundamental analysis convictions” to invest money in the market when the majority are moving in the opposite direction.

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To: pcyhuang who wrote (3443)7/1/2011 11:03:51 PM
From: pcyhuang   of 3904
 
We will remain bullish until....









We will remain bullish until the following charts turns negative again!


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To: bruwin who wrote (3446)7/4/2011 10:27:19 PM
From: Dinesh   of 3904
 
>Once sanity returns to the market place...

Every market theory - be it based on Fibonacci or cup-and-handle or value investing or contrarian thought -- they are all theories first. Sometimes they are in vogue and sometimes they are out of favor. So KO could produce solid business results and yet suffer on stock price. MSFT is no ordinary anomaly - it's, even after a decade of stagnant stock price, one of the largest stocks and Microsoft still one of the largest software house. So, how long should one wait for sanity?

IOW, who is to say, at a given point in time, which theory will be proven right. And why.

(To me, markets turn insane when my positions begin to lose. After some time, I too start to go insane. And, seemingly just to mess me up once again, markets turn around. Seemingly, because no one can answer the why's.)

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To: Dinesh who wrote (3448)7/5/2011 9:39:58 AM
From: bruwin1 Recommendation   of 3904
 
Hi Dinesh.

My comment regarding “sanity returning to the market place” was in reference to those situations, as we’ve seen in the past, when stock prices, in general and very much across the board, are depressed due to “market sentiment”, etc.. etc..
We saw such a situation back in Feb/Mar 2009. At that stage a stock such as KO fell to about $37. It’s now trading at above $68. MSFT fell to about $15. It’s now above $26.
IMO, it’s at times such as those that the financial fundamentals of companies tend to have little to do with their price action. You may, or may not, agree.

With regard to cups-and-handles, Fibonacci’s, etc.., etc.., I have my own opinion as to the ultimate value they provide in stock selection. For those who wish to indulge in them, that’s what they must do. It’s certainly up to individual investors to make their own decisions in that regard.
At the end of the day, the ongoing use of those various theories will provide the investor with the answer as to how relevant and beneficial they are to his investment success.
As the saying goes, “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”.

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From: pcyhuang7/8/2011 8:42:55 PM
1 Recommendation   of 3904
 
LLEN's two new key appointments









1. CFO -- Ian Robinson, CPA, will join the Company as Chief Financial Officer, effective June 30, 2011.

Mr. Robinson has been an Independent Director of L&L since December 2008 and has served as Chairman of the Company's Audit Committee. Previously, he was a Senior Partner at the Hong Kong office of Ernst & Young LLP, having first joined the firm as a chartered accountant in 1976. Mr. Robinson currently serves as a director of several companies, both private and public, including Revonergy, Inc. and ENM Holdings, Ltd. A 31-year resident of Hong Kong, Mr. Robinson is a Member of the Supervisory Board of the Hong Kong Housing Society and a Member of the Hong Kong Insider Dealing Tribunal. Mr. Robinson holds the CPA designation from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Australia and the Hong Kong Society of Accountants.

Dickson Lee, Chairman and CEO, added, "As Chairman of our Audit Committee and Member of the Board since December 2008, Ian not only brings tremendous experience as a former senior partner of Ernst & Young, one of the Big 4 accounting firms; he will also hit the ground running with his day to day knowledge of L&L."

2. Dr. Syd Peng, PhD has been appointed to the Company's Board of Directors.

Dr. Syd Peng is the Charles E. Lawall Chair of Mining Engineering at West Virginia University and is known internationally for his expertise in longwall mining. He served the U.S. Bureau of Mines in charge of rock physics research and has performed research and investigated problems in more than 300 coal mines in every coal producing state in the U.S. and 16 foreign countries around the world. Dr. Peng is a member of the National Academy of Engineering and has authored 4 textbooks and 332 journal articles in the areas of mining. In 2007 he was inducted into the West Virginia Coal Hall of Fame. Dr. Peng received his PhD in Mining Engineering from Stanford University.

A native of Taiwan, Dr. Peng also is an expert in the Chinese coal industry and has consulted for the Chinese government on coal policy, as well as mining safety and standards. Dr. Peng currently serves on L&L's Advisory Board.

Dickson Lee, Chairman and CEO of L&L, commented, "Dr. Peng has performed due diligence to improve L&L's coal operations in China and has also visited the Bowie mine in Colorado. I look forward to his continued guidance as we grow our coal businesses internationally."

Partly because of these two key management appointments, I believe that LLEN is a sound investment at its current $5 level.

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To: pcyhuang who wrote (3442)7/8/2011 9:29:42 PM
From: pcyhuang1 Recommendation   of 3904
 
The Spectacular Recovery












The chart below shows the percentage of Nasdaq listed stocks traded above the respective 50 days moving average. This spectacular recovery since late June was predicted by our previous post about the Fibonacci numbers.


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