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To: John Koligman who wrote (1926)2/13/2012 3:51:45 PM
From: Eric
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They are John...

How many gallons of fuel can you buy with a tax of $.35 per gallon.

The Washington legislature is going to resind the tax...

Pay da man.... for fossil fuels...

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To: Eric who wrote (1928)2/13/2012 4:10:28 PM
From: John Koligman
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None of this will matter to the early adopter 'facebook' types who will buy the S. I just priced out a basic 300 mile S, with the options one might want (paint other than black or white), leather, navigation, etc. the car runs about 90k before the tax credit. I see the 'Signature' models are close to 100k with the credit.... This is the Mercedes S class crowd in terms of pricing....

Regards,
John

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To: John Koligman who wrote (1929)2/13/2012 4:37:31 PM
From: Eric
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Well John,

To me I'll end up being "insulated"' from any increases in fossil fuel prices. The batts will last over twenty years and by then I'll probably be dead.

My costs are "fixed" since I'll be generating all the electrons at my home with a PV array.

Something I've done for over twenty years...

regards,

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To: Eric who wrote (1930)2/13/2012 8:37:22 PM
From: John Koligman
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Eric,
The way I see it, spending close to a 100k on a car to 'insulate' youself from higher oil prices can only make sense if the stuff goes so high it's close to unobtainable for the masses. If that occurs anytime soon, I doubt you will be in a position to take that S out on the road with any semblance of safety....

Regards,
John

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To: John Koligman who wrote (1931)2/13/2012 9:23:26 PM
From: Eric
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Europeans are already paying close to $10 a gallon right now John.

I don't see kayos over there yet!

I've been working for many years to get off the "dole" of fossil fuels. My house doesn't burn any so the next electric car gets me off the last few drops. I enjoy generating my own, clean, sustainable electricity. No bills and am working on my other home to get it totally off the grid. Well not quite.. I'll sell the excess electricity to my utility. Any electricity that isn't needed to run the house and charge the cars will go to the grid and benefit my neighbors.

regards,

Eric

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To: Eric who wrote (1932)2/13/2012 9:56:39 PM
From: John Koligman
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So this electric thing is kinda an expensive hobby for you??? By the way, here is Europe these days!!!





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To: John Koligman who wrote (1933)2/13/2012 10:00:35 PM
From: Eric
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Well John at my "off grid" home it became much cheaper and much more reliable to generate electricity via PV's vs the gas guzzling, smelly, dirty, unreliable generator. I'm saving about $7000 a year not feeding and trying to maintain that beast!

I've never had a power failure since I stopped using it. Something the other "grid served" islands next to me can't even come close to claiming.

The PV system paid for itself after only about 6 years.. And that's without any tax credits or government funding.


Edit:

If I duplicated the system today it would be paid off in less than 4 years..

After that it's virtually "free" electricity for the next 40 years or so..

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To: Eric who wrote (1934)2/13/2012 11:40:35 PM
From: John Koligman
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I must be missing something. My electric bill ran about $750 bucks last year, connected to the 'grid'.... You spent 7 GRAND to power your home via a generator? I doubt a solar array would ever pay in Chicago.... Probably why I don't see any around....

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To: John Koligman who wrote (1935)2/14/2012 8:41:59 AM
From: Eric
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Have you ever tried to run a house that can't be connected to the grid because it doesn't exist. Sorry John, you don't seem to be able to understand the problem.

Many homes in America have no access to the "grid". What do you propose to solve that problem if you can't get grid access??

There are over 100 homes on the island where I have my home and none of them are connected to a "grid".

How would you provide power 24/7/365?

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From: Eric2/14/2012 10:10:07 AM
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Honda Fit Electric Vehicles To Be Used In Google Research Project

Honda recently delivered its 2013 Fit electric vehicles (EVs) to Google Inc. and Stanford University as a part of the Honda Electric Vehicle Demonstration Program. Along with the city of Torrance, Calif., each participant is now conducting general testing, as well as providing specific feedback related to the future introduction of EVs.

"The goal of the Honda Electric Vehicle Demonstration Program is to better understand the challenges and opportunities associated with the advancement in battery-electric technology," says Steve Center, vice president of American Honda Motor Co.'s environmental business development Office."

Equipped with a 20 kWh lithium-ion battery and a 92 kW coaxial electric motor, the Fit EV battery can be fully recharged in three hours when connected to a 240 V circuit, according to Honda.

Google will use the Fit EV as a part of its G-Fleet, an employee car-sharing service that features numerous plug-in vehicles. Google's participation in the demonstration program will involve analysis of vehicle usage, including carbon-dioxide reduction, energy consumption on a miles/kWh basis, and overall energy cost.

Over the past year, Honda has collaborated with Stanford University professors, researchers and students through various seminars and classes. The year-long collaboration resulted in a research direction on how to study the psychological and physical reactions of using EVs and how these reactions differ when a traditional gasoline-powered vehicle is driven.

The research team will use both the Fit EV and a gasoline-powered Fit to test their theories. Ultimately, the research results will help Honda to better understand customer acceptance of EVs and how to overcome physiological obstacles associated with the adoption of new technologies, according to the company.


renew-grid.com

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