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To: FUBHO who wrote (8962)7/22/2007 9:35:48 AM
From: Monkey Man   of 17539
 
Turkish generals are interested in invading the Kurdish part of Iraq to basically wipe them out. Unfortunately, your earlier theory seems out the window.

So quick to judge Robert. It is unfolding exactly as I prescribed. Taking out the Kurds is merely a first step in a long term strategy.

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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (8964)7/22/2007 9:37:16 AM
From: Monkey Man   of 17539
 
Sheesh GZ with that scenario even Canada could invade and dominate the good old USA

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To: Monkey Man who wrote (8969)7/22/2007 9:52:18 AM
From: Monkey Man1 Recommendation   of 17539
 
How do these imbeciles survive?

IRAN'S SPYING SQUIRRELS?

worldblog.msnbc.msn.com 

You can tell that Iran is feeling a little beleaguered these days when there are reports that Tehran may be under attack from rodents!

That is what the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported this week, that police had, ahem, "arrested" 14 squirrels on charges of espionage.

The rodents were found near the Iranian border, allegedly equipped with eavesdropping devices, according to IRNA.

When asked to confirm the story, Esmaeel Ahmadi Moghadam, the national police chief, said, "I have heard about it, but I do not have precise information." He declined to give any more details.

IRNA said that the squirrels were discovered by intelligence services – but were captured by police officers several weeks ago.

'Are you serious?'
The reaction to the report on Tehran’s streets was varied – from disbelief to assigning guilt for the alleged infraction.

"No, I had not heard about this, but it does not surprise me, foreign countries are always meddling in Iran," said Hassan Mohmmadi, a fast-food vendor.

Mohammadi asked me if I knew where the squirrels were from, and I told him that I didn’t know. Then he came to his own conclusions. "I bet they were British squirrels, they are the most cunning," he replied.

Meantime, an independent journalist, Sepher Sopli, was not surprised by the idea that another country would spy on Iran, so much as he was dumbfounded by their methods.

"I read this story in the papers and though it was very bizarre; what struck me as odd was that in this age of modern technology, people were relying on squirrels to do their spying," Sopli said.

But, the report was still strange enough to surprise. "That's very funny, but you’re not serious are you?" said Soraya Jafari, a student in Tehran.

Maybe not a first
Espionage not entirely foreign to animals. If true, this would not be the first time animals have been used for military endeavors.

During World War II, Allied forces used pigeons to fly vital intelligence out of occupied France.

More recently, U.S. Marines stationed in Kuwait trained chickens for a low-tech chemical detection system. It’s also well documented that dolphins have been used to seek out underwater mines.

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To: Monkey Man who wrote (8968)7/22/2007 11:26:53 AM
From: FUBHO2 Recommendations   of 17539
 
Wiping out the only peaceful part of Iraq is not a prescription, it is retarded... The Turks are not allies.

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To: Monkey Man who wrote (8969)7/22/2007 12:31:40 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™   of 17539
 
With the wacko liberals in charge, yes, anything can happen...

GZ™

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To: FUBHO who wrote (8971)7/22/2007 1:11:59 PM
From: Monkey Man   of 17539
 
Name just one thing that makes sense over there.?

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From: no name chump7/22/2007 3:40:18 PM
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Ruling Party Wins Turkish Elections

ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkey's Islamic-rooted ruling party won parliamentary elections Sunday, taking at least 331 of 550 seats despite warnings from the secular opposition that the government was a threat to secular traditions.

The state-run Anatolia news agency said the ruling Justice and Development Party had won with 85% of the votes counted. Two secular parties, the Republican People's Party and the Nationalist Action Party, won 124 seats and 76 seats respectively, Anatolia said. Independents won 19 seats.

Ruling party supporters gathered in front of their Istanbul branch office, clapping, dancing and waving flags depicting the party symbol, a light bulb. In Ankara, the capital, a jubilant crowd of several hundred whooped as they watched election results on a big television screen erected outside party headquarters.

One of parliament's first jobs will be to elect a president. The post is largely ceremonial, but the incumbent has the power to veto legislative bills and government appointments.

In May, Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul abandoned his presidential bid after opponents said his election would remove the last obstacle to an Islamic takeover of government. Hundreds of thousands of protesters flooded the streets and the military -- instigator of past coups -- threatened to intervene to safeguard secularism.
[Recep Tayyip Erdogan]

On Sunday, many people cut short vacations to head home to cast their ballots, and lines at some polling stations were long, with people voting early to avoid the summer heat. In Istanbul, Turkey's biggest city, traffic jammed some main roads and police officers stood guard outside the gates of schools serving as polling stations.

The country has an emboldened class of devout Muslims led by the ruling party, which is willing to pursue Western-style reforms in order to strengthen the economy and join the European Union. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has presided over strong economic results, including reduced inflation, more foreign investment and average annual growth of 7%.

"Things are going well, there's stability in the economy," said Kadem Diner, a catering company owner. "I think it would be insane to ruin stability by voting for someone else."

The success of the ruling Justice and Development Party has often been touted as proof that Islam and democracy can coexist, although its detractors accuse Mr. Erdogan and his allies of plotting to scrap Turkey's secular traditions despite their openness to the West.

Many of these government opponents constitute a traditional elite and have roots in state institutions such as the courts and the military, guardians of the secular legacy of national founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. They argue that personal freedoms -- such as the right to drink alcohol or a woman's choice of clothing -- are in peril, but they have more of an authoritarian background and less of a reformist record than the government.

"I want our government to protect secularism," said banker Burcin Atalay, who voted for the Republican People's Party.

The new Parliament also faces violence by Kurdish rebels and a growing divide over the role of Islam in society.

"My biggest concern is security. I voted for a party which, I believe, will end terrorism and provide security for our citizens," said Remzi Ekinci, a civil servant. He declined to identify his choice because he works for the government.

After casting his vote, Mr. Erdogan appealed for national unity and criticized parties that he said tried to make gains through negative campaigning, Dogan news agency reported. "We are the strongest advocates of a democratic, secular, social state governed by the rule of law," Mr. Erdogan said. "I call on all leaders not to close their doors. Let's get around a table and discuss the problems of Turkey's democracy and make the rule of law reign."

The new government must decide whether Turkey, a NATO member, should stage an offensive into northern Iraq to thwart rebels from the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, who have bases there. Mr. Erdogan has said Turkey could stage an incursion into Iraq if talks on the security situation fail. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has received an invitation from Mr. Erdogan to visit Turkey, but no date has been set, the Iraqi government said.

Fourteen parties and 700 independent candidates were competing for a total of 42.5 million eligible voters. Voting is compulsory in Turkey, though fines for failing to vote are rarely imposed and turnout was 79% in elections in 2002.

Nevzat Yukselen, an election official, said the nationwide process was smooth. There were a few reports of scattered violence, but no fatalities.

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From: no name chump7/22/2007 3:43:15 PM
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A New Voice For Islam

speakingoffaith.publicradio.org 

Ingrid Mattson, the first woman and first convert to lead the Islamic Society of North America, describes her experience of Islamic spirituality, which she discovered in her twenties after a Catholic upbringing. We probe her unusual perspective on a tumultuous age for Islam in the West and around the world.

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To: Monkey Man who wrote (8973)7/22/2007 3:49:54 PM
From: Ichy Smith   of 17539
 
Name just one thing that makes sense over there.?

they bury the dead really quickly so they can keep up with the volume.

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To: no name chump who wrote (8975)7/22/2007 4:15:55 PM
From: Ichy Smith1 Recommendation   of 17539
 

A New Voice For Islam

Yup a canadian version of your new voice.....



from
canada.com 

VisionTV defends airing 'jihad' lecture
By Stewart Bell, National Post

Published: Thursday, July 19, 2007
TORONTO • VisionTV says it will monitor one of its shows more closely after it broadcast a lecture by an Islamic preacher who said scripture requires Muslims to either fight jihad or finance it.

The multi-faith channel, available in 7.8 million Canadian homes, said it took the precaution following a complaint about last Saturday's broadcast of a lecture by the Pakistani fundamentalist.

In the hour-long talk, Israr Ahmad said, "Jihad in the way of Allah, for the cause of Allah, can be pursued either with your financial resources or your bodily strength when you go to fight the enemy in the battlefield.


"So jihad, the highest form, is fighting in the cause of Allah."

Mr. Ahmad runs a seminary and bookstore in Lahore, Pakistan, and his writings foresee the "global domination of Islam," compare Jews to "parasites," describe the Holocaust as "divine punishment" and predict the "total extermination" of Jews.

His followers in Canada include terror suspect Qayyum Abdul Jamal, who was arrested last summer for his alleged role in a plot to detonate truck bombs in downtown Toronto.

According to Mr. Jamal's wife, Mr. Ahmad was her husband's teacher and mentor.

The television program left some wondering how the Pakistani preacher, who claims that Jews control the world through a secret conspiracy involving financial institutions, made it on to Canada's government-regulated airwaves.

"Israr Ahmad is widely known for his hateful words and vilification of Jews," said Canadian Jewish Congress spokesman Bernie Farber. "We are deeply concerned that Vision would give this individual the imprimatur of Vision's credibility. It was a mistake in judgment and ought to concern all of us."

VisionTV's code of ethics forbids the broadcast of programs that glorify or incite violence or "have the effect of provoking or abetting domestic or international religious or political conflicts."

The broadcaster acknowledged that the show, Dil Dil Pakistan, had talked about jihad and fighting but said it did not contravene the station's policies against incitement because the comments were made in a historical context. But it said the show would be monitored more closely.

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