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To: koan who wrote (188223)5/4/2012 9:26:30 AM
From: JohnM
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Krugman has a good piece in this morning's NYTimes along somewhat the same lines. Highly recommended.

nytimes.com

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To: koan who wrote (188224)5/4/2012 9:32:58 AM
From: epicure
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Sorry Koan. It's not. We are born on a bell curve. It's true, you can stunt what you are naturally given- and we see that in the inner cities (and you can see it in rats, mice and other mammals that are studied)- but what we are born with is a huge part of the equation. I happen to think it's probably 60-75% inborn, and 40-25% nurture. All the scientific studies show nature is an enormous part of the puzzle- not just in terms of intelligence, but also in terms of personality. We are to a great extent at the mercy of our genes. We can, of course, make the best of that, but it's always going to be best to win the genetic lottery and be born to smart parents- and since smart people often marry other smart people, and stupid people marry stupid people...

well. You see where I'm going here.

Not to say we don't see some regression to the mean- but if you look at self selected enclaves, and look at IQ scores, you really can't argue selective breeding isn't happening in man. Because it is.

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From: Suma5/4/2012 9:39:18 AM
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5/2/12 at 5:22 PM 12Comments What Newt Hath Wrought By Jonathan Chait



    Running for president was a catastrophic error for Newt Gingrich, a man prone to catastrophic errors. He dynamited his reputation, blew a hole in his net worth, and sabotaged his future earnings ability by giving his opponents an incentive to expose his influence-peddling business for what it was. And yet Gingrich’s seminal achievement remains fully intact. He redefined the Republican Party as an ideologically disciplined, parliamentary-style party. And, in particular, he made it a party of anti-tax fundamentalism.


    When Republicans invoke opposition to taxes as their central tenet, they usually invoke Ronald Reagan. It was Reagan who introduced large peacetime, debt-financed tax cuts and inaugurated the era of mass deficits. But Reagan, having leapt wholesale into this new territory at the outset of his presidency, spent the rest of it crawling back. Reagan passed a huge tax cut in 1981, but the enormous deficits, and the ability of rich people to escape taxation, haunted his advisors. Reagan signed on to a series of tax hikes in subsequent years, and supported a tax reform that ended the capital gains loophole. He remained rhetorically opposed to taxes, but in practice Reagan had only evolved a bit from the fiscal traditions of previous balanced-budget Republicans.


    George H.W. Bush, Reagan’s vice-president, followed in Reagan’s footsteps. He ran for president vowing to oppose any tax hikes, but when it came time to bargain, he accepted them in the same way that Reagan did. Bush’s 1990 budget deal, mixing spending cuts, slightly higher taxes, and new budget rules to stop deficit-financed entitlements or tax cuts, helped produce a decade of reduced spending and deficits.


    But the lasting legacy of the deal was a rebellion that Gingrich led against it. Denouncing the bargain as a sellout, Gingrich rallied Republicans in the House to oppose it wholesale. Conservative organs like the Wall Street Journal editorial page and National Review denounced the deal (“the fiscal equivalent of Yalta,” referring to the post-war bargain Western leaders struck with Stalin) and spent years building up ideological antibodies to ensure that such a sellout never occurred again. It was Gingrich who made "no new taxes" not just a slogan but a governing (or anti-governing) philosophy.


    Gingrich’s vision has utterly prevailed within his party. Since 1990, zero Republicans in the House or Senate have accepted a tax hike. John Boehner clearly wanted to strike a deal last summer that would produce higher revenue, but the Republican caucus made clear it would renounce any such agreement, however favorable the terms may be.


    Gingrich was a true pioneer in his recognition that the social norms that governed the behavior of the parties in Washington were an anachronism. The best way for the minority party to regain power, he understood, was a slash-and-burn campaign to discredit the majority. But the methods Gingrich pioneered were harnessed to an ideology, and that ideology retains just as strong a hold over its party today as it did when Gingrich rose to power two decades ago.




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    From: epicure5/4/2012 10:11:26 AM
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    My aunt (Ky, wingnut, southern baptist) is such a moron, and she doesn't even know it. Many times she sent out emails (full CAPS!!!!, many exclamation points!!!!)- about Obama and the war on terror. About Obama being a Muslim. About Obama not being "aggressive" enough on terrorists. Now that Obama has presided over the administration that killed Osama, she blames him for taking credit for being in the administration that killed Obama. Y'know- if he'd failed, she would have been up his butt with a sharp stick, and I know it, and she ought to know it. But no- she can't give him any credit. It is so f%&king typical. When Shrub did the few things I agreed with, I gave him credit for it- but my aunt? She's a hypocritical, moronic asshole. I just wish I could get off her email list with it's cretinous "jokes" and constant incorrect "reports".

    With these kinds of folks in the world, who can hope for much? Really. I swear- there are problems on both sides, but the idiots who cannot self evaluate, and who believe in their utter holiness, are the worst. You can find them on both sides, but with the lurch to the right in the dem party, there are a heck of a lot more of them on the right. We've got some of the kooks in the occupy movement- but the republican party has us beat, moronic nut-wise.

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    To: epicure who wrote (188231)5/4/2012 10:15:55 AM
    From: T L Comiskey
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    re... but the idiots who cannot self evaluate, and who believe in their utter holiness, are the worst. You can find them on both sides,


    Ive had...somewhat heated discussions about the meaning of..'holiness'..

    define 'That.'..I requested.....


    How bout the 2 Commandments...that Jesus preached..were..most important..

    all I got back was...blank stares.....

    'The Saints..preserve US..'

    T

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    To: JohnM who wrote (188227)5/4/2012 10:29:08 AM
    From: Bread Upon The Water
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    Maybe Bentway can help us out here as to the start of Johnson's political career in the US House and the end of his Navy service. The tale I related does not come from Johnson himself, but a book about him (can't remember title or author)

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    To: JohnM who wrote (188227)5/4/2012 10:49:59 AM
    From: Sam
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    FYI -- Norm Ornstein and Tom Mann will be on Diane Rehm on Monday at 10:00 AM EST.

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    To: JohnM who wrote (188227)5/4/2012 11:01:20 AM
    From: Bread Upon The Water
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    We're both right. He was in the Naval Reserve while in congress and did go to Australia and receive the Silver Star from MacArthur. What is in doubt is whether Johnson's plane itself ever came under fire on the mission.

    en.wikipedia.org

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    To: JohnM who wrote (188204)5/4/2012 11:57:13 AM
    From: Wharf Rat
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    "As president, would he revoke the executive order that Obama signed on his first day in office, restricting interrogation techniques to those in the Army Field Manual?"

    If Obama had prosecuted torture, he wouldn't be able to. As it is, O wil be out of office in '17 for sure, and the next pres can rescind it.

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    To: Sam who wrote (188206)5/4/2012 12:02:23 PM
    From: Wharf Rat
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    Romney apparently has been paying attention to only one set of reports"

    I'm starting to think he gets all his talking points from Faux. I've never seen a pol lie as much as he does on facts. Forget the floppin'... just overall lies. The press doesn't call him out enuf. Obama will have to do it at the debates.

    Gingrich: Mitt Romney is a liar
    cbsnews.com
    ==

    "perhaps Romney thinks that the Embassy should create an international incident for this man who is not even a citizen? What a great idea that would have been, lol. "

    Send Seal Team 6 to extract the family.
    Wahoo!!

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