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To: JohnM who wrote (143040)8/25/2010 1:13:52 PM
From: Paul Smith of 224609
 
I thought only George Soros and the labor unions were allowed to spend big bucks on politics?

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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (143036)8/25/2010 1:16:13 PM
From: Mary Cluney of 224609
 
<<< Not sure why Krugman can't see the point that when you do that - become a lender instead of a borrower - it makes you stronger in the future.>>>

I wonder why he can't see that?

It is obvious that you are much better off with a budget surplus and are able to invest the surplus.

Perhaps if we didn't squander our surplus by giving tax cuts to some of the wealthiest people in the world and go to war without the thought of paying for it when Bush came into office in 2000 - we might not have to go so far into debt to help all those people that lost their jobs, homes, and the future.

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To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (143041)8/25/2010 1:18:31 PM
From: Dale Baker of 224609
 
Nixon did pretty much the same thing, so did Lee Atwater in Bush's campaign. They do it because it works in the American electorate, sadly.

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From: Dale Baker8/25/2010 1:22:19 PM
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I posted this on another thread but it sums up my sentiments on the whining from CEO's nowadays. They are obviously trying to strong-arm their way back into the driver's seat so they can replay the last decade at our expense.
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"So after we turn back the clock to 2005 and restore the Bush-Cheney hands-off policies that business is lobbying for now, they will promise not to blow up the financial system again, or blow up deep sea oil wells, or poison the food supply, or engage in predatory lending or all of that again?

This time it will be different so let's just give them what they want?

Personally, I voted to change that, and it has. Listening to the CEO's whine because they can't run amok doesn't move me much, it's obviously cynical self-serving rhetoric on their part.

BTW, just what are business-friendly policies that don't involve giving rapacious CEO's free rein? I'd like to hear what we should be doing short of lubing up and bending over to get reamed again.

That's the track record that business has to overcome."

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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (143044)8/25/2010 1:32:36 PM
From: Steve Lokness of 224609
 
Perhaps if we didn't squander our surplus by giving tax cuts to some of the wealthiest people in the world and go to war without the thought of paying for it when Bush came into office in 2000

No argument whatsoever. Having said that, we did go into war and we did give those tax cuts so there is little we can do about that now. What we can do is bring our troops home NOW. End the wars NOW. And start taxing at the rate we spend.

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From: Dale Baker8/25/2010 1:43:53 PM
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Funny how the most conservative paper in the area never came close to meeting the private sector objector of a profit:

Rev. Sun Myung Moon said to be considering buying back Washington Times

By Ian Shapira
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 25, 2010; C03

Just four years after giving the Washington Times to his eldest son, the Unification Church's leader, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, is considering paying millions of dollars to buy back the conservative newspaper he founded in 1982, according to former Times staffers with knowledge of the negotiations.

Moon wants to buy the Times back from his son Preston Moon, who has threatened to shut down the foundering broadsheet altogether, said Charles Sutherland, the Times's former director of development and promotions, who was laid off in May.

Times sources said Moon, who is 90, has tapped Dong Moon Joo, the former Times chairman who was ousted last year by Preston Moon, to purchase and run the paper. Messages left at Joo's home and with his attorney were not returned Tuesday.

"The idea is that Moon wants the paper back and wants Mr. Joo to run it," Sutherland said. "That's what the whole game is about. The old man trusts Joo."

The uncertainty about the Times's future follows a tumultuous year of layoffs, plummeting circulation, mounting debt, the purging of top executives, the resignation of executive editor John Solomon, and even the discovery of a snake found slithering in a meeting room. The paper has dropped its metro and sports sections and cut its newsroom staff by more than half.

An unsourced story on the media news and gossip Web site DCRTV.com Monday said that the site "hears that the Washington Times is close to closing," but Unification Church and Times sources said the paper's future is far from clear.

In addition to facing the declining economic fortunes that have hit vitually all newspapers, the Times is caught in the middle of a battle for control of Moon's vast business empire, as the church founder's grown children have been dueling over who will run Moon's real estate and fishing concerns. The father gave the Times to Preston, his oldest son, in 2006, according to former Times officials.

Tensions between Preston and his younger brother, Justin Moon, ignited last year, according to church and Times sources, after Preston tried to gain control of another church-supported company, UCI, which has about $3 billion in real estate and fishing assets. In retaliation, Justin, who runs many of the family's businesses in South Korea and Japan, slashed the Times's annual $35 million subsidy, forcing the paper into a series of layoffs. The newspaper has lost hundreds of millions since its founding, according to former Times executives.

Earlier this year, a group of conservative investors offered to buy the paper for $15 million, but they were rebuffed by Preston Moon. In May, the paper confirmed that it was actively seeking a buyer.

The newspaper's editor, Sam Dealey, declined to comment. Church spokesman Joshua Cotter did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday.

Some current and former Times staffers hope Moon and Joo can save the paper, but they also worry that Preston Moon will be reluctant to sell to Joo, whom he pushed out in late 2009.

Other sources said Joo may end up teaming up with at least two other former Times executives forced out by Preston Moon -- ex-publisher and president Thomas McDevitt and former finance chief Keith Cooperrider.

Sutherland said that Preston and Joo "don't like each other at all. It's a question of ego. If Joo ends up with the paper, it's a slap in the face to Preston."

Some Times staffers said they are trying to concentrate on putting out the newspaper and are hopeful that a turnaround is looming. "We're trying to figure out where we're going," said one Times staffer, who declined to be named for fear of getting fired. "I think people are optimistic. They wouldn't be here if they weren't optimistic." The Times stopped reporting its circulation data in 2008, when the paper had audited sales of about 87,000 copies a day; Times executives said in May that that number has dropped to about 42,000.

But other former staffers who remain close to key Times executives said reports of an imminent shutdown last week were at least partly true. "I heard that they were moving to shut it down, but those reports could have also been disinformation coming out as a negotiating stance," said a former Times staffer. "No money's being spent on anything. Everything's frozen."

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From: Dale Baker8/25/2010 1:50:13 PM
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This hardly matches the rhetoric we have been fed on security in Iraq....

Coordinated Attacks Strike 13 Towns and Cities in Iraq
By ANTHONY SHADID

BAGHDAD — In one of the broadest assaults on Iraq’s security forces, insurgents unleashed a wave of roadside mines and a more than a dozen car bombings across Iraq on Wednesday, killing dozens, toppling a police station in the capital and sowing chaos and confusion among the soldiers and police officers who responded.

The withering two-hour assault in 13 towns and cities, from southernmost Basra to restive Mosul in the north, was as symbolic as it was deadly, coming a week before the United States declares the end of combat operations here. Wednesday was seemingly the insurgents’ reply: Despite suggestions otherwise, they proved their ability to launch coordinated attacks virtually anywhere in Iraq, capitalizing on the government’s dysfunction and perceptions of American vulnerability.

For weeks, there had been sense of inevitability to the assaults, which killed at least 51 people, many of them police officers. From the American military to residents here, virtually everyone seemed to expect insurgents to seek to demonstrate their prowess as the United States brings its number of troops below 50,000 here. But the anticipation did little to prepare security forces for the breadth of the assault. Iraqi soldiers and police officers brawled at the site of the biggest bombing in Baghdad, and residents heckled them for their impotence in stopping a blast that cut like a scythe through the neighborhood.

“A bloody day,” Khalil Ahmed, a 30-year-old engineer, said simply, as he stared at the cranes and bulldozers trying to rescue victims buried under the police station.

“From the day of the fall of Saddam until now, this is what we have — explosions, killing and looting,” he said. “This is our destiny. It’s already written for us.”

The assaults began at 8:20 a.m. when a pickup truck packed with explosives detonated in a parking lot behind the police station in the northern Baghdad neighborhood of Qahera. The police station collapsed, and the blast sheared off the top floors of nearby homes. Windows were shattered a half-mile away. One family was pulled out alive. Hours later, cranes and bulldozers tried to remove others trapped beneath the rubble.

Police officers kept angry residents from entering the scene.

“You get millions of dinars in salaries and you won’t let us help our families?” one youth shouted.

Another cried, “You just take money and don’t care about us!”

An Iraqi investigator walked by the scene.

“This is the state?” he muttered. “This is the government?”

Twice, soldiers and police officers brawled at the scene, and shots were fired in the air.

The rest of the capital was snarled with traffic, as police and army vehicles, sirens blaring, tried to break through the traffic jams. American soldiers in Humvees and armored vehicles, with a token Iraqi escort, drove through parts of the city.

For weeks, insurgents have carried out a daily campaign of bombings, hit-and-run attacks and assassinations against the security forces and officials, seeking to undermine confidence in their ability to secure the country. They remained the target Wednesday in attacks in Falluja, Ramadi, Tikrit, Kirkuk, Basra, Karbala, Mosul and elsewhere.

In one of the worst assaults, in the southern city of Kut, Iraqi officials said a car bomb detonated by its driver killed 19 people and wounded 87, most of them police, in an attack that destroyed the police station near the provincial headquarters.

In Diyala Province, five roadside bombs detonated in the morning in Buhriz, the first against a police patrol, a second against reinforcements who were heading to the scene and three others intended for houses belonging to policemen, officials said. They were followed by a car bombing that struck the provincial headquarters in Baquba, northeast of Baghdad, killing three people. Another car bombing struck a hospital in nearby Muqdadiya.

“The beginning of the storm,” said Saleh Khamis, a 38-year-old teacher in Buhriz.

In Ramadi, a car bomb tore through a bus station, killing eight people.

Under a deadline set by the Obama administration, the United States has brought its number of troops here to a little below 50,000, a presence it intends to maintain through next summer. The administration and the American military have sought to portray the partial withdrawal as a turning point in the American presence here, insisting that Iraq’s army and police are ready to inherit sole control over security here.

Military officials have said they believe that insurgents only number in the hundreds, and the military has issued a daily drumbeat of announcements that leaders and cadres in the insurgency have been arrested in American-Iraqi operations.

“The message the insurgents want to deliver to the Iraqi people and the politicians is that we exist and we choose the time and the place,” said Wael Abdel-Latif, a judge and former lawmaker. “They are carrying out such attacks when the Americans are still here, so just imagine what they can do after the Americans leave.”

The attacks come amid deep popular frustration with the country’s politicians, who have failed to form a government more than five months after elections in March. Shoddy public services, namely electricity, have only sharpened the resentment.

At the scene of the bombing in Baghdad, residents grimly swept up glass from storefronts. Others milled among the dozens of police and army vehicles. No one seemed to express optimism; most said they were bracing for more of the same.

“The situation doesn’t let us live our lives here,” said Mahmoud Hussein, a 26-year-old mechanic. “No water, no electricity no security. Every day it gets worse.”

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To: Paul Smith who wrote (143043)8/25/2010 2:06:40 PM
From: JohnM of 224609
 
You need to read The New Yorker material and check for all the articles over the years about rich folk funding this or that.

One of the several big differences between the Koch approach and Soros, as Mayers notes, is that all of Soros' funding is in public records. I suspect the same is true of union funding. Not so with the Koch brothers.

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (143049)8/25/2010 2:12:08 PM
From: Sultan of 224609
 
Ah but they are free and democratic now.. So much for meddling without knowing the history and the players.. An experiment that has costs so much mulla and lives.. At least Americans can now just go home but will still pay for this long times.. For Iraqis, this is going to be never ending story..

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From: JohnM8/25/2010 2:40:06 PM
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Nate Silver opens/recreates his 538 blog as a part of The New York Times. It will definitely be one of my go to places as we get closer to the 2010 elections.

fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com 

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