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To: The Ox who wrote (837)5/2/2012 1:29:37 PM
From: Robert O   of 2102
 
Thanks good info. My thought is the crazy div yld will likely be cut or suspended so not looking at it as a div play at all (plus I have s-t cap loss carry forwards that would make paul allen blush. combine that with a high marginal tax rate and I’m not really looking for the income stream strategy). I though they were gonna change to just 'the shack' it would work better. Currently trading at 4.95. I have noticed these types of stories tend to go lower and often get to a 'wash out' point in which everyone is out who wants out . Then, if it avoids BK the growth in stock price from such a small number can act as a spring and really show fantastic % gains with any glimmer of margins increasing. Case in point CROX.

I stalked crox for years but at a buck could not pull the trigger figuring everyone must know that any monday morning they will announce BK. Instead it's a 30 bagger. sigh.

RO

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To: Robert O who wrote (838)5/2/2012 1:52:39 PM
From: The Ox   of 2102
 
I think that at some point, ICE and CME are going to be excellent plays. When interest rates start rising or even if we get a serious hint that they are heading north, the options and futures markets are going to go crazy, imo. While rates are low and "boring", I think these two companies are simply biding their time. No rush but they should be watched or put on watch lists when the conditions change in the future.

With this in mind, people who have money in bond funds need to consider moving out of them when it appears that rates are going to go up. Once again, no rush but at some point it will be time to move out of one of the better investments over the past decade. Particularly retired folks who don't really manage their portfolios should be told to consider this kind of change sometime down the road. It will be relatively obvious to those of us who follow the market closely but "Aunt Jenny" should be warned once the warning flags are flying......

JMO

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To: Return to Sender who wrote (831)5/3/2012 10:35:22 AM
From: Robert O   of 2102
 
RIMM, having trouble finding bottom today. Breaches 52- wekk low!





12.18




Change

-0.62 -4.84%

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To: Robert O who wrote (840)5/3/2012 10:50:19 AM
From: robert b furman   of 2102
 
Sold some May 11 puts today (25), for a whopping 5 cents.

If this downtrend continues and Amat close in 16 days below 11.00 - I'll gladly buy 2500 shares @ an adjusted cost of 10.95.

Options expiration is 5 days before Amat announces its Earnings.

I tried to sell the June puts @ 20 cents,but it has not filled so far.

These puts would expire June 12th, after earnings and that may be why I can't get a fill.

The May puts went up in value as Amat dipped to 11.72 but the Junes did not.

MM not wanting to risk his inventory (may be wishfukl thinking).

At worst it will be free money in 16 days.It'll pay for pizza next month.

Going slowly in this dividend boosting plan.

Plan is to not go out beyond the next month - repeat every month.Sell puts on dips and calls on pops.

I have the stock in the account, if selling covered calls takes the stock away.

Biggest transaction risk is the purchase of a stock that would yield a dividend rate of 3.28 % and trying to get another 3 % on put/call selling.

Note to self it is fun to be in a stock that has liquidity.

Bob

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To: Robert O who wrote (840)5/3/2012 10:57:44 AM
From: Return to Sender   of 2102
 
RIMM could potentially fall much further. Do you see any real long term support here until you get down to say 6.65?




I think once the RSI reaches around 30 here on this daily chart though that RIMM will make a short term bounce:




It's at an RSI of 36 now.

RtS

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To: Return to Sender who wrote (842)5/3/2012 11:14:22 AM
From: Robert O1 Recommendation   of 2102
 
I agree with your sentiments. Plus there is this negative stroy line taking hold that what was presented this week is not enough phone. Makes sense to let the sentiment play out to 30 level then buy and get either short term bounce or best case ride the bounce, create a profit cushion, and in my mind they may see some success later in year so let say half ride. Thanks.

PS Bob on your AMAT, for some reason I have it in my head that AMAT is a company for the people inside not the outsdie investors so much. This was a theme from a few on the AMAT thread for some time. Sadly it might be true. While there will be some rewards via normal inflation, etc. I mean this stock-even taking into account divs- has been underperforming market for a long long time.

Does this all mean due for long cycle climb at some point or is it being used as vehicle to keep those inside cushy?

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To: Robert O who wrote (843)5/3/2012 11:28:17 AM
From: robert b furman   of 2102
 
Hi Robert O,

You are sadly correct.

I've not owned Amat till now ,but have felt the pain over on the Amat thread.

G has been motivation with regards to my re beginning to trade options.

My best successes were with selling puts on Orcl while Orcl was depressed and in the 10-12 range.

It was s afe buy at that depressed range and it offered up some very good capital gains.

Amat is depressed and every March it has increased the dividend by one penny.

If that repeats next year it will yield 4 % plus what I can nickel dime every month on selling puts and calls.

It is trading with 15 cents of it 200 sma and I'm OK with buying it below 11.00.

So this is a training ground were hopefully the dividend gives me some support and my tuition won't be too extravagant.

G is making me do it - so I'm blaming him.LOL

Bob

Thanks for your opinion it is well founded.

I'm just playing conservative and trying to learn a new skill.

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To: Return to Sender who wrote (842)5/3/2012 11:50:49 AM
From: Sultan1 Recommendation   of 2102
 
One of the Technical Alert I got from my broker last night, TD Waterhouse gives a range of 6.75 to 8.00 with a Long-term Bearish flag..

FWIW..

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To: The Ox who wrote (839)5/3/2012 12:45:01 PM
From: The Ox1 Recommendation   of 2102
 
Research Analysts’ new coverage for Thursday, May 3rd:

Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: BRCD) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set an “average” rating on the stock.

Cisco Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: CSCO) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set a “buy” rating on the stock.

Emulex Co. (NYSE: ELX) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set an “average” rating on the stock.

F5 Networks (NASDAQ: FFIV) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set an “average” rating on the stock.

Juniper Networks (NASDAQ: JNPR) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set an “average” rating on the stock.

QLogic Co. (NASDAQ: QLGC) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set an “average” rating on the stock.

Riverbed Technology, Inc. (NASDAQ: RVBD) is now covered by analysts at Caris & Co.. They set an “average” rating on the stock.

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To: Sultan who wrote (845)5/3/2012 1:37:38 PM
From: Return to Sender   of 2102
 
Wow.. that really good that TD Waterhouse would have someone willing to say bad could get worse and have rational reasons for it. I'm impressed.

RtS

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