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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (5055)1/3/2009 6:42:55 PM
From: average joe
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Al Gore: The real Flat Earther

Les Kinsolving quotes skeptical scientists battling global warming fanatics

Posted: December 30, 2008

1:00 am Eastern

How many times in history has any scientific theory had as much dissent from scientists as global warming?

Six hundred and fifty scientists from all over the world have challenged the global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and by former Vice President Al Gore.

Canada's Financial Post on Oct. 20, 2000, noted: "The number of climate change skeptics is growing rapidly."

New York Times environmental writer Andrew Revain on March 6, 2008: "As we all know, climate science is not a numbers game (there are heaps of signed statements by folks with advanced degrees on all sides of this issue)."

Washington Post's Julie Eilperin in 2007: "Climate change skeptics appear to be expanding rather than shrinking."
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A new report issued by the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works office of the GOP's ranking member features the following scientists:

"I am a skeptic. ... Global warming has become a new religion." – Nobel Prize winner for physics Ivar Giaever.

"Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time." – Solar physicist Dr. Pal Brekke, senior adviser to the Norwegian Space Centre in Ohio.

"It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." – U.S. government atmospheric scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

"After reading (U.N. IPCC Chairman) Pachauri's asinine comment (comparing skeptics to) Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet." – Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs.

"All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinkers and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead." – Geophysicist Dr. Phil Chapman, an astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, serving as staff physicist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

"The (global warming) scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds." – Award-winning paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

"Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the U.N.-IPCC. ... The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium ... which is why 'global warming' is now called 'climate change.'" – Climatologist Dr. Richard Keen of the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at the University of Colorado.

By striking contrast to these 650 scientists:

"Former Vice President Gore has claimed that scientists skeptical of climate change are akin to Flat Earth Society members' and similar in number to those who 'believe the moon landing was actually staged in a movie lot in Arizona.'"

But by striking contrast to Mr. Gore:

Warming fears are the "worst scientific scandal in the history. ... When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." – U.N. IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, award-winning Ph.D. environmental physical chemist.

"For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" – Geologist Dr. David Gee, chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress, who has authored 130-plus peer-reviewed papers and is currently at Uppsala University of Sweden.

"CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another. ... Every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so. ... Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver's seat and developing nations walking barefoot." – Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University of Japan.

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To: average joe who wrote (5056)1/4/2009 7:25:54 AM
From: Tom Clarke
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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (5057)1/4/2009 12:14:58 PM
From: average joe
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Mirabile videtur quod non rideat haruspex cum haruspicem viderit.

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From: average joe1/5/2009 2:02:43 AM
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Alexander and Aristotle

Alexander was educated by the great philosopher Aristotle of Stagira.

Alex and Bucephalus

As a place for the pursuit of their studies and exercise, he assigned the temple of the Nymphs, near Mieza, where, to this very day, they show you Aristotle's stone seats, and the shady walks which he was wont to frequent. It would appear that Alexander received from him not only his doctrines of Morals and of Politics, but also something of those more abstruse and profound theories which these philosophers, by the very names they gave them, professed to reserve for oral communication to the initiated, and did not allow many to become acquainted with. For when he was in Asia, and heard Aristotle had published some treatises of that kind, he wrote to him, using very plain language to him in behalf of philosophy, the following letter.

Alexander to Aristotle, greeting. You have not done well to publish your books of oral doctrine; for what is there now that we excel others in, if those things which we have been particularly instructed in be laid open to all? For my part, I assure you, I had rather excel others in the knowledge of what is excellent, than in the extent of my power and dominion. Farewell.

Aristotle's school. In the second century CE, the building was still shown to visitors. And Aristotle, soothing this passion for pre-eminence, speaks, in his excuse for himself, of these doctrines as in fact both published and not published: as indeed, to say the truth, his books on metaphysics are written in a style which makes them useless for ordinary teaching, and instructive only, in the way of memoranda, for those who have been already conversant in that sort of learning.

Doubtless also it was to Aristotle that he owed the inclination he had, not to the theory only, but likewise to the practice of the art of medicine. For when any of his friends were sick, he would often prescribe them their course of diet, and medicines proper to their disease, as we may find in his epistles.

He was naturally a great lover of all kinds of learning and reading; and Onesicritus informs us that he constantly laid Homer's Iliad, according to the copy corrected by Aristotle, called the casket copy, with his dagger under his pillow, declaring that he esteemed it a perfect portable treasure of all military virtue and knowledge.

When he was in the upper Asia, being destitute of other books, he ordered Harpalus to send him some; who furnished him with Philistus' History, a great many of the plays of Euripides, Sophocles, and Aeschylus, and some dithyrambic odes, composed by Telestes and Philoxenus. For a while he loved and cherished Aristotle no less, as he was wont to say himself, than if he had been his father, giving this reason for it, that as he had received life from the one, so the other had taught him to live well.

But afterwards, upon some mistrust of him, yet not so great as to make him do him any hurt, his familiarity and friendly kindness to him abated so much of its former force and affection, as to make it evident he was alienated from him. However, his violent thirst after and passion for learning, which were once implanted, still grew up with him, and never decayed.

Utinam tam facile vera invenire possem quam falsa convincere.

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To: average joe who wrote (5059)1/6/2009 9:05:26 PM
From: Tom Clarke
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Field Museum discovery helps solve mystery of South American trophy heads

The mystery of why ancient South American peoples who created the mysterious Nazca Lines also collected human heads as trophies has long puzzled scholars who theorize the heads may have been used in fertility rites, taken from enemies in battle or associated with ancestor veneration.

A recent study using specimens from Chicago's Field Museum throws new light on the matter by establishing that trophy heads came from people who lived in the same place and were part of the same culture as those who collected them. These people lived 2,000 to 1,500 years ago.

Archaeologists determined that the severed heads were trophies because holes were made in the skulls allowing the heads to be suspended from woven cords. A debate has been raging for the past 100 years over their meaning.

Trophy heads in the Field collection were gathered from the Nazca Drainage of the arid southern Peruvian coast 80 years ago by noted American anthropologist Alfred Louis Kroeber (1876-1960). He also collected remains of some people buried normally. In some cases, the trophy heads were buried with their collectors.

Because Nazca is among the driest places on Earth, said Ryan Williams, a Field Museum curator, the specimens Kroeber collected were very well preserved. The dead bodies were naturally mummified and some trophy heads still had their hair as well as the display cords attached to the skull. The museum also has several examples of Nazca pottery illustrated with trophy heads; some of the pots are on display in the museum's Ancient Americas exhibition.

"Illustrations on some pots depict warriors and trophy heads," said Williams. "But there are also scenes that link trophy heads to agricultural fertility. Mythical creatures depicted on some pots carry trophy heads as well."

Researchers speculated that if trophy heads were spoils of war, they likely would have come from people who lived somewhere beyond the Nazca area. To test this notion, scientists took samples of tooth enamel from 16 trophy heads in the Field collection and 13 mummified bodies buried in the Nazca region. The results clearly show that donors of the trophy heads were from the same place as the people who kept the trophies, Williams said. This conclusion was based on research using modern technology to look for subtle differences in three elements found in the samples. Those elements – strontium, oxygen and carbon – each display a slightly different atomic structure that varies by geographic location.

"You are what you eat," said Williams, "and the elements you consume become a part of your bones' chemical signature."

People ingesting food produced in different regions will have different strontium isotope ratios in their bones that mirror the age of the bedrock where the food was grown, he said. Carbon also displays different isotopic patterns that vary with the plants that process it. Carbon from corn looks different than carbon from wheat. Oxygen absorbed from water has an isotope signature that varies with climate, altitude and other factors.

"We used the latest technology to study samples that were gathered 80 years ago," said Williams. "This demonstrates the value of maintaining the vast collections that museums keep."

Scientists from Arizona State University, the University of Illinois at Chicago and Indiana University collaborated with Williams to do the study, which appears in the Journal of Anthropological Archaeology. The lead author is ASU professor Kelly Knudson.

There is still more to learn. Determining why the Nazca people collected trophy heads could be important in understanding how civilization progressed in South America, Williams said. "The vast majority of trophy skulls came from the same populations as the people they were buried with. They still could be the trophies of war; maybe warfare was oriented against related communities, or maybe this was ritual." New data on the changes in trophy head taking by the Nazca through time could be important in understanding how politics developed in early societies.

"This small scale agrarian society was succeeded by an empire with regional authority," Williams said. "For the first time people were governed by others who lived hundreds of miles distant. Understanding how this came about may help us better understand how these forms of government first emerged."

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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (5060)1/7/2009 8:27:22 PM
From: average joe
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Shadow People Stalk a Dying Man

Leslie Robert’s husband was diagnosed with end stage liver cancer in September 2007. The cancer progressed rapidly and by the end of November, he was close to death. During this time he started talking about people no one else could see.

“He claimed to see shadow people standing at the edge of the room watching him,” Leslie said. “He said that there were at least 12 to 20 of them and they were always present listening to our conversations and watching as we nursed him through his illness.”

Although Leslie’s husband was weak, he insisted they take a trip to Redding, Calif., 150 miles away.

“I did not want to go because I was extremely worried about him, but because he insisted, we went,” she said.

They spent the first night of their trip in a motel, but Leslie soon found they were not alone.

“He and I were laying on the bed with the TV off just holding each other and talking,” she said. “He told me not to be alarmed but that the shadow people were in the room with us paying very close attention to everything we were saying.”

Fear poured over Leslie as she scanned the room, the hair rising on her arms and neck, but she saw no one.

“He told me the reason he wanted to go so badly was he thought he might be able to hide from them at least for awhile,” she said. “This really upset me.”

The couple spent the next night at a nearby relative’s house.

“It was a very bad night both because he was so sick and also because they were getting clearer and more present,” Leslie said.

The next day, Leslie took her husband home, but the visits from shadow people grew more intense.

“I, being raised by a Pentecostal minister, felt I had to do something to relieve his fears,” she said. “I sat with him and asked him one simple question. Did he think the shadow people were good or bad?”

He did not know the answer, but he knew he was afraid of them.

“From my experience with (the) church I did know that when something of the spirit world is good you knew it,” she said. “There only seemed to be doubt and fear if the spirits were evil.”

She slid her hands into her husband’s hands and prayed for the shadows to go away.

“I addressed the spirits that he was seeing and let them know that my husband was a child of the light, and a child of the almighty God in heaven,” she said. “I claimed my home a home of light and a dwelling of peace and love. I rebuked the spirits and told them that there was no place for them there and that in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost they could not remain.”

The moment the prayer was over, her husband jerked violently.

“My husband … looked at me with wide open eyes and said ‘you just took what I was using to keep me here,’” she said. “I was shocked; he said they were gone.”

The next morning her husband said he was leaving and an hour later he went into a coma. He died two weeks later. Leslie thinks she helped him in his last moments.

“I do not know exactly what was tormenting him,” she said. “But I do believe they were not good forces because otherwise I could not have sent them out.”

Copyright 2009 by Jason Offutt

Got a scary story? Ever played with a Ouija board, heard voices, seen a ghost, UFO or a creature you couldn’t identify? Let Jason know about it: Jason Offutt c/o The Examiner, 410 S. Liberty, Independence, Mo. 64050, or Your story might make an upcoming installment of “From the Shadows.”

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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (5060)1/8/2009 10:29:00 AM
From: DMaA
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.

allowing the heads to be suspended from woven cords

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To: DMaA who wrote (5062)1/8/2009 10:34:10 AM
From: average joe
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TV beauty stole supermarket pies

Perth model Edwina Nattrass.

A finalist in the Miss Universe Australia pageant has been fined $300 in Perth for stealing pies from a supermarket.

Model and part-time TV presenter Edwina Joyce Nattrass, 23, the daughter of Perth's Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass, pleaded guilty today in the Perth Magistrates Court to stealing three pies in Perth on July 7.

The court was told she ate one of the pies in a Perth supermarket before putting two in her bag because she did not have enough money to pay for them.

Magistrate Giuseppe Cicchini fined Nattrass $300, ordered her to pay $11.70 for the pies and $100.70 costs.

The magistrate granted a request for a spent conviction order, which means defendants may not have to acknowledge a criminal conviction, or may mean they cannot be discriminated against for having a conviction.


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To: average joe who wrote (5063)1/8/2009 10:48:23 AM
From: Oral Roberts
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Personally if I had been in the store and looked at that figure I would have paid for the pies and sent home a couple of chocolate cakes also. Considering pictures tend to add weight she makes Twiggy look heavy.

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To: Oral Roberts who wrote (5064)1/8/2009 11:15:35 AM
From: average joe
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I would have bought and then hand fed her pork pies that were sanctioned by the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association.

"The Melton Mowbray Pork Pie is a distinct product that is recognisably different from other pork pies, both in physical characteristics and in reputation. It is rich in history and is recognised by consumers as a traditional, regional food product.

The sides of the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie are bow-shaped as they are baked free standing, whereas most other pork pies are straight-sided being baked in hoops. The meat used is fresh pork which is naturally grey when cooked (like roast pork), not pink like most other pork pies, which use cured pork. The meat must be particulate, as we used chopped pork, not smooth on the palette as most other pork pies are because they used minced meat. The Melton Mowbray Pork Pie is also well jellied and the meat seasoned with salt and pepper.

The recipe for the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie is not complex. Indeed, its simplicity underlines its very authenticity and reminds us that the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie has remained true to its roots and is still baked without a hoop as it was the end of the 18th Century.

Other kinds of pork pies share some of the physical characteristics of the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie (just as many blue cheeses share certain characteristics with Blue Stilton), but the combination of all these physical characteristics coupled with the product's reputation, is unique."

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