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To: FUBHO who wrote (131598)5/2/2012 4:50:15 PM
From: longnshort
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"If Obama had a son he would be a percussionist"

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (131544)5/2/2012 4:57:53 PM
From: lorne
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kennysharpton Connection to obama in this story about black mob attacking 2 white people is black..makes you feel proud right kenny? Looks like one of the victims of black rage was hispanic..happy days for you kenny happy days. Maurice Jones connection is black.

Cops flay newspaper in Norfolk black-mob attack

'No one at the scene said it was racially motivated'
by Joe Kovacs
Wednesday, May 02, 2012

Police in Norfolk, Va., are slamming the city’s newspaper for its portrayal of a mob attack by large numbers of black teenagers against a young couple in a car, a case which has sparked national outrage in the last 24 hours.
“That’s what happens when [an opinion columnist] reports the news, not bound by the facts of the case,” said Chris Amos, public-information officer for the Norfolk Police Department.

As WND reported yesterday in a story posted on the popular Drudge Report, the couple was pummeled April 14 by dozens of black teens, and the Virginian-Pilot newspaper did not report the incident for two weeks, despite the fact the victims, Dave Forster and Marjon Rostami, are both news reporters for the paper.

Today, police tell WND they’re not sure if the attack was racially motivated.

“Could it have been? Yeah, it could have, I guess,” said police spokesman Chris Amos. “We certainly haven’t ruled that out, but we haven’t seen anything that jumps out at us other than someone throwing a rock at someone’s car.”

“A whole lot of racial implications have been made. We don’t know the motive of this. Race didn’t become a factor until Twitter comments later. No one at the scene said it was racially motivated. They didn’t tell us then and they didn’t hear any [comments such as] ‘Remember Trayvon Martin.’”

Trayvon Martin is the unarmed black teen who died after being shot by a community-watch captain with white and Hispanic parents, George Zimmerman, in Sanford, Fla., sparking a wave of outrage long after the incident.

Amos is critical of Pilot columnist Michelle Washington for mischaracterizing the crime in her opinion piece, as the paper still has not published a news account.

He says the victims indeed were coming home from a theater show that Saturday night, when they were stopped at a traffic light.

A crowd of black teens was on a nearby sidewalk. The Pilot columnist said the crowd was at least 100.

“We don’t have number, it’s fluid,” said Amos. “It seems like the number continues to grow, but we weren’t there. So we’re kind of at the mercy of our victims.”

Dave Forster

When a rock was thrown at the car, Forster got out of the vehicle to confront the thrower, and that’s when the beating began.

“Wave after wave of young men surged forward to take turns punching and kicking their victim,” Washington wrote in her opinion piece. “The victim’s friend, a young woman, tried to pull him back into his car. Attackers came after her, pulling her hair, punching her head and causing a bloody scratch to the surface of her eye. She called 911. A recording told her all lines were busy. She called again. Busy. On her third try, she got through and, hysterical, could scream only their location. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. Church and Brambleton. It happened four blocks from where they work, here at the Virginian-Pilot.”

“The responding officer coded the incident as a simple assault, despite their assertions that at least 30 people had participated in the attack,” Washington wrote. “A reporter making routine checks of police reports would see ‘simple assault’ and, if the names were unfamiliar, would be unlikely to write about it. In this case, editors hesitated to assign a story about their own employees. Would it seem like the paper treated its employees differently from other crime victims?”

Today, police confirm the couple was indeed punched and kicked, but said neither suffered serious injuries, and refused to be brought to the hospital.

Amos says the first police unit arrived on scene within a minute of the 911 call, and the crowd was dispersed immediately by flashing lights and sirens.

He says Rostami was “very emotional” after the onslaught, but Forster “was pretty calm, cool and collected considering what he had been through.”

Amos says the paper’s account of what the responding officer told the victims is grossly inaccurate.

Newsroom of the Virginian-Pilot

The Pilot indicated Rostami “says the officer told her to shut up and get in the car. Both said the officer did not record any names of witnesses who stopped to help. Rostami said the officer told them the attackers were ‘probably juveniles anyway. What are we going to do? Find their parents and tell them?’ The officer pointed to public housing in the area and said large groups of teenagers look for trouble on the weekends. ‘It’s what they do,’ he told Forster.”

Police give a different version, as Amos says the responding officer gave the couple his business card, and he “vehemently denies the conversation reported in the Pilot.”

“Using his discretion for their further well-being and safety,” Amos explains, the officer told the victims, “‘Call me. I’ll finish the report. It’s best if you got out of here.’” Officers were simultaneously called to a report of shots fired in a nearby neighborhood.

The couple then met with the officer on Monday, April 16, to finish providing information.

When asked why this case was originally listed as a “simple assault,” Amos said, “There’s no code for a mob assault” in their reporting system. He says that information can be filled in manually in the narrative of the event. But if suspects are caught, they could be charged with mob assault by the commonwealth attorney.

“They’re facing felony charges, if we can find them and identify and if our victims can identify them,” he said.

While Norfolk does have some traffic cameras in certain locations, Amos says there is not one at the intersection where the crime occurred.

As far as his advice on how to handle a situation like that, Amos says perhaps the best thing to do is “just drive through the intersection and then call the police.”

He admits Norfolk Police are being flooded today with angry comments from citizens “about how incompetent we are, about how indifferent we are, about how unprofessional we are.”

But it’s not just the police facing public wrath.

The Virginian-Pilot is continuing to get hammered for still not doing a news report on the attack.

Shannon Muncy of Virginia Beach, says she’s “thoroughly disappointed in and disgusted by the Pilot. I will no longer read the Pilot. I will encourage all small business owners that I know to remove any advertising they may have. Once upon a time journalism meant that the journalists were out to provide the public with the truth – now it has simply become a liberal train ride. Here’s the information we think you need, and that’s all you will get. If it doesn’t tie in with the party line, it doesn’t hit the press.”

Maurice Jones

“This is wrong on so many levels,” adds Robert Fogle of Portsmouth, Va. “The Pilot in not reporting the story has proven itself not to be a media outlet, but a tabloid. Gone are the days that there was a journalistic code of ethics to report the news, not be the news, and let the reader decide. The police in their reaction proved that they have forgotten that their’s is a duty to protect and serve, not cop an attitude while intimidating the victim. And, as is par for the course, the leadership, or lack of leadership, at the police department closed ranks and provide an excuse for the incompetent actions of the officers. Lastly, city leadership, that will surely fail their citizens in not demanding an investigation, and holding the police accountable for failure and dereliction of duty.”

The Virginian-Pilot has a tie to President Obama, as its publisher since 2008, Maurice Jones, was nominated by Obama and recently confirmed by the U.S. Senate to be deputy secretary of HUD, the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

The paper said he expected to start his new job in Washington on April 16, meaning he was still officially the Pilot’s publisher through the weekend of the Norfolk mob attack.

WND has put in calls to the Virginian-Pilot for comment on the matter.

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To: longnshort who wrote (131612)5/2/2012 4:59:47 PM
From: TideGlider
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I think he would blow horns and wind instruments

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To: TideGlider who wrote (131614)5/2/2012 5:09:24 PM
From: longnshort
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yeah the skin flute

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From: Carolyn5/2/2012 5:16:20 PM
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Look at this:

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From: Kenneth E. Phillipps5/2/2012 5:35:33 PM
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Barrett leads by one percentage point, 47-46, among all registered voters, while Walker leads by one percentage point, 48-47, among likely voters.

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (131617)5/2/2012 6:01:02 PM
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Black Teen Run Off the Liberal Plantation

Matthew May
posted by Brumar

Do you know the name Jada Williams?

You probably know the name Sandra Fluke. She received a phone call from the incumbent president after the mean old white man on the radio called her a name. You probably know the name Trayvon Martin. The incumbent president answered a planted question from a White House reporter to indicate that Trayvon, slain by an individual representing the heretofore unknown demographic of white Hispanic, looked like he could be the president's son.

Jada Williams is a 13-year-old student from Rochester, New York. Earlier this school year, she was given a copy of the book The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave, written by the great patriot Frederick Douglass. Her assignment was to read the book and write an essay about her impressions. Her essay was to be entered in a contest. Jada Williams happens to be black. Many of her teachers are white.

Reading Douglass can -- and should -- incite rage and astonishment at the depths to which barbaric slaveowners and their deputies sank in treating their fellow men. The violence perpetrated upon Douglass and other slaves by the protected class of overseers is relayed in stark detail -- to wit, an anecdote about an overseer named Mr. Gore:

Mr. Gore once undertook to whip one of Colonel Lloyd's slaves, by the name of Demby. He had given Demby but few stripes, when, to get rid of the scourging, he ran and plunged himself into a creek, and stood there at the depth of his shoulders, refusing to come out. Mr. Gore told him that he would give him three calls, and that, if he did not come out at the third call, he would shoot him. The first call was given. Demby made no response but stood his ground. The second and third calls were given with the same result. Mr. Gore then, without consultation or deliberation with any one, not even giving Demby an additional call, raised his musket to his face, taking deadly aim at his standing victim, and in an instant poor Demby was no more...He (Gore) was asked by Colonel Lloyd and my old master, why he resorted to this extraordinary expedient. His reply was, (as well as I can remember,) that Demby had become unmanageable.

Ms. Williams struggled with the initial part of the assignment. She found it difficult to encounter some of the vocabulary used by Douglass. Exasperated at being unprepared to confront the text, she sought definition to that which she did not comprehend. Once she became satisfied that she grasped Douglass's use of the language, she understood what Douglass was describing. She was struck by comparisons between her life and Douglass's characterizations of the plantation overseers and masters and mistresses who denied him knowledge for fear of his becoming aware of his humanity.

In her essay, Ms. Williams drew a parallel between what she saw as a group of self-satisfied "white teachers" overseeing dysfunctional students (characterized by Ms. Williams as "so-called 'unteachable'" students) who were not being properly taught, illiterate and perpetually ignorant. This she considers a form of slavery. Ms. Williams quoted an arresting passage from Douglass's description of one of his masters, a Mr. Auld, happening upon his wife instructing Douglass in basic reading:

If you teach that nigger (speaking of myself) how to read, there will be no keeping him. It will forever unfit him to be a slave. He would at once become unmanageable, and of no value to his master.

One wonders if the copy of Douglass's book read by Ms. Williams included, as do some editions, a letter written to Douglass by Massachusetts abolitionist Wendell Phillips. Phillips surmised that Douglass's experiences as a slave amounted to "[t]he cruel and blighting death that gather over his soul." An oft-quoted phrase about writers or by writers is that "writers write what they know." So Ms. Williams wrote.

Perhaps Ms. Williams's use of the phrase "white teachers" was provocative. Yet this is her reality. Her plea was not that her teachers should be fired or punished in any way. Her plea was conciliatory and did not limit blame for what she sees as an intolerable situation to them alone. She asked that her teachers -- and her fellow students -- work in concert to spread knowledge and prepare their students and themselves in such a way so as to be able to engage a mind like Frederick Douglass without frustration:

A grand price was paid in order for us to be where we are today; but in my mind we should be a lot further, so again I encourage the white teachers to instruct and I encourage my people not to just be a student, but become a learner.

The essay that Ms. Williams wrote was never entered in the essay contest. Instead, she was harassed out of her school by the very people whose assistance she requested.

The teacher who gave Ms. Williams the original assignment was so
enraged at her essay that copies were distributed to fellow teachers and the principal. Soon after, Ms. Williams' parents began receiving several phone calls from faculty claiming that their daughter was "angry." Suddenly Ms. Williams, a model student prior to the essay, began receiving low grades in her classes. In several meetings, these same teachers refused to show Ms. Williams' parents the papers and tests that garnered lower grades. During at least one such meeting, according to Mrs. Williams, a teacher union representative was present.

Her parents decided to enroll her another school in the district. They were told that that school was full and to try another school. The recommended school was full of actual unmanageable children, one of whom asked Ms. Williams if she were there because she fought too much in her old school.

It is impossible to believe that some member of the White House staff did not hear of this story. Why did the incumbent president decline to comment? Could he not identify with Ms. Williams? Perhaps not, since the education he received from high school forward cost somebody hundreds of thousands of dollars. Could it be that he could not personalize it enough? Perhaps not, since his daughters attend the best schools money can buy.

Or perhaps the incumbent president did not wish to gamble with the endorsement of the overlords of the overseers in Ms. Williams's school, the National Education Association (NEA). Certainly the NEA and other teacher unions have had their share of disagreements with the incumbent president. Yet their ranks are foursquare behind his re-election ideologically and financially.

Is it really the case that this president, a purported author of African descent, would have nothing to say about a young black girl who was intimidated and bullied out of a school by a group of white overseers who were upset at her impertinent behavior? Are the NEA and manifold union backers of the incumbent president a protected class who cannot suffer any consequences for ejecting a student who had become "unmanageable"?

Happily, not everyone has ignored Ms. Williams. She was awarded the first " Spirit of Freedom" award by the Frederick Douglass Society of New York on February 18, 2012. Sadly, not enough people know and celebrate her courage and thoughtfulness. No members of Congress, no former governors, and no professional basketball teams have taken the time, nor has the president, to publicly applaud Ms. Williams. Nobody dons a hoodie in support of a young black girl tossed aside like trash for daring to learn, daring to speak up, and being summarily punished for it.

Do you know the name Jada Williams? She is a bright young lady with a searching literary mind that should be nurtured by her teachers, celebrated as an engaged and engaging pupil. Instead, she was hounded out of her school as the members of the early 21st century's protected class proved her thesis.

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To: longnshort who wrote (131615)5/2/2012 6:07:03 PM
From: TideGlider
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That too lol and the upright organ.

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (131617)5/2/2012 6:08:56 PM
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This January Poll from the same pollster you cite had Barrett ahead by 6 points in January. Given the nature of this pollster, I would give it to Walker by 5, if they have him by one now..

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To: FUBHO who wrote (131620)5/2/2012 6:19:18 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps
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<<had Barrett ahead by 6 points in January>> Wrong! Read it again. That poll had Walker had by 50-44.

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