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To: bull_derrick who wrote (290)11/7/2004 9:17:36 AM
From: chowder   of 13449
 
Bull,

I did mention a specific point to cut losses on the GT trade. Technically, I should have been out of the trade. I wasn't at the computer when the price passed my stop by a penny and therefore, wasn't able to send in a sell order. When I got back to the computer, the price had already started back up and I gave a sigh of relief.

If I were running a newsletter, or charging for information, I would have had to count GT as a trade that showed a loss, as opposed to a trade that gave me a nice gain over a two week period.

One of the mistakes that most technicians make is that they try to apply linear mathematics to a non-linear world. The market doesn't know what a moving average or protective stop is. The market does what the market wants to do.

In setting price targets and stop losses, the idea is to set guidelines for the trade, not absolute strict rules. I've missed many a trade because my limit price missed by a penny or two. I've seen where newsletters say buy between 12.15 and 12.25 and the price gaps to 12.45 and I let it go only to see the price run to 15.00.

Knowing when to activate a stop or sell takes practice. I've made many mistakes trying to find a balance between the two. After going through my trade journals, I can see where I made mistakes in applying these guidelines.

I'm thankful that Carl brought it to our attention. It has caused me to reflect on a strategy that I hope will be useful in the future.

One of the things a trader is supposed to do is stay in the same time frame. In other words, if using a daily chart to enter, use a daily chart to exit. If using an hourly chart to enter, use an hourly chart to exit.

In the future, unless there is bad news or some other incident to cause a stock to go against me, I will use the closing price as my stop, even if it's a little more than I wanted to lose.

So, if my stop on a stock is 9.15 and I see that intraday it is down to 8.95, I will wait until the close to trigger the stop unless negative news came out that day. My reason for this is that a lot of stocks bounce back after the stops are taken out. Candlesticks such as hammers and hanging men are good examples of where the price was down significantly intraday and bounced back up by the close.

This isn't an excuse to explain the GT trade, I just wasn't there when the price hit my stop target. However, this did provide me an opportunity to focus on a strategy on the best way to deal with stops.

dabum

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From: chowder11/7/2004 9:57:23 AM
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Some thoughts on the oil service sector.

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dabum

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To: chowder who wrote (293)11/7/2004 1:25:32 PM
From: gparker940   of 13449
 
Dabum; thank you for the post on the OSX.
Have been looking at 17 stockcharts in the sector that I have. Since the Tuesday election, the Wed. and Thurs reaction to it, the charts are much harder to read. Crude and natural gas went down during those days, yet the stocks went up. I sense the danger here, and sincerely appreciate your advice and will see what tomorrow and tuesday bring. Thank you for sharing your talents.

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From: chowder11/7/2004 3:43:15 PM
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MMM is setting itself up if one has a longer term view of the market.

In looking at a "weekly" chart of MMM, the price is now heading into longer term resistance at the 20 and 50 week moving averages.

Price usually pulls back on the first attempt at major resistance points. However, if MMM can get above the 20 and 50 week moving averages, it will have confirmed a trend reversal and should move up to a new high.

Stochastic is on the rise and the fuel cells in the MACD indicator are improving.

With the price this close to resistance, one should wait for the price to get above the 20 and 50 week moving averages before taking a position.

Weekly:
stockcharts.com 

The daily chart is showing good buying volume, good money flows and the fuel cells are taking off to the upside. I think these indicators are suggesting the trend to the upside will have the energy to continue to a new high once the resistance on the weekly chart can work its way through.

Daily:
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Worth keeping an eye on.

dabum

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From: hittous11/8/2004 3:36:02 AM
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Dabum I was wondering what your out look for RIG is I've held it for a long time I’ve got 3500 shares that I’ve are price adv at 29 I’m thinking may be 50 - 60 come spring what do you think.

other info there is a bidding war between 3 oil companies for the Rig i am on the last bid i head was 250,000 a day but they are not done also they are getting ready to un stack two rigs (contracts pending)for the GOM

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To: hittous who wrote (296)11/8/2004 9:17:37 AM
From: chowder   of 13449
 
hittous,

I don't have a long term outlook for RIG. Your question probably needs to be answered from a fundamental point of view as opposed to a technical.

Those who follow the fundamentals saw RIG when it was $19 and thought that with rising oil prices, rising day rates and a growing economy, that the long term price for RIG should rise so they bought.

In using technical analysis, too many people are under the assumption that technicians think they can predict future prices off of technical indicators alone. This couldn't be further from the truth. Technical analysis is not any more successful at bringing consistent results than fundamental analysis is. That's why 80% of institutional investors and 95% of retail investors can't beat the market on a consistent basis. Neither strategy is accurate enough to provide long term consistent results.

With fundamental analysis, it may take a year or two to find out if you were right or wrong. With technical analysis, I can know within a day or two, although the profits are smaller, so are the losses. So it comes down to finding a system that brings consistent profits even though they are small, and the power of compounding will help to bring in the larger returns over time.

Technical analysis is about playing the odds. In the game of Texas Hold'em, if you are dealt a pair of aces, you know your odds of winning are over 80% even before the flop. Someone being dealt a 7, 3 non-suited hand can still win but, the odds aren't in their favor. As a card player, you'd bet your aces accordingly, taking a larger position since you know the odds are very good that you will win.

That's what technical analysis does. It lets you know the odds as they are before the trade (flop) begins.

RIG is approaching the 50 day moving average. The odds favor a stock that has been in an uptrend to bounce off the 50 dma on the first attempt. That first attempt occurred last week and we saw a one day bounce. The second attempt doesn't provide as good a setup but it is the point where one would take a position if they believed the sector will rise from here.

If one wants to go long here, the advantage is that the risks are very low of a huge loss if you set a stop about 12-15 cents below the 50 day moving average. The reason for this is that a close down at that price will have changed the uptrend to a downtrend. The 50 dma would then become resistance as opposed to support.

This is why most of my buy and sell setups occur around levels of support or resistance. Where the fundamentalist may take a year or two to see if they are right or wrong, the technician will know in 1-3 days. Then you can adjust and move on from there.

RIG is sitting just above the lower momentum band and just above the 50 dma. The trend indicator (MACD) is showing negative fuel cells. It's running low on energy. Money flows are negative. These aren't the qualities one would want to see in a stock they thought would start rising. RIG has to turn that technical setup around in the next day or two or gravity will pull the price even lower.

The technical indicators aren't predicting future price action. They are suggesting that the next day or two should determine the future price action. Plan accordingly.

stockcharts.com 

dabum

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From: chowder11/8/2004 9:43:53 AM
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A REVIEW:

STOCKS TO WATCH - WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 3

AGEN has a buy set up that we have used to success. We have a 3-5 bar reversal off a recent high with the price holding just above support.

The first bounce off the 50 day moving average is usually a very good low risk trade, especially when the price had hit a recent high. In looking at the MACD indicator, which measures the trend, it is showing positive fuel cells and if the 50 dma holds, the price should have the energy to set a new high.

The pull back in price has been on lower volume than what we saw when the price was rising. This indicates normal profit taking.

Again, the initial stop loss should be placed around $5.80. If the price gaps down below the 50 dma at the open, the trade is null and void unless the price can gain back at least half of yesterday's loss.

If the trade kicks in, the initial price target is about $8.20. A 4-1 risk vs reward ratio, about $2 of upside to 50 cents of downside. A very low risk trade if one sticks to the plan.

stockcharts.com 

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The price target of $8.20 was hit in the first few minutes of trading. The delayed chart won't show the gap up until at least another 10 or 15 minutes. Profit around 24% for 3 days.

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To: chowder who wrote (298)11/8/2004 9:46:32 AM
From: Larry S.   of 13449
 
nice call, and thanks for sharing with us. larry

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To: chowder who wrote (298)11/8/2004 10:26:50 AM
From: chowder   of 13449
 
Here's the AGEN chart, the last one was only up through last Friday, not today.

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To: chowder who wrote (300)11/8/2004 11:44:53 AM
From: Larry S.   of 13449
 
Bum, would appreciate your current take on DYN. tia. larry

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