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To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (224139)5/18/2012 3:19:05 PM
From: SiouxPal1 Recommendation   of 236476
 
Those big companies in early can't sell for 90 days?

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To: SiouxPal who wrote (224141)5/18/2012 3:51:34 PM
From: Ron   of 236476
 
Facebook ipo has been a complete circle jerk today. Opened a half hour late, Nasdaq still screwing up
bids and asks. They only had a year to plan for this. Plus I gotta ask, what is the real value of Facebook...
That said, the damn thing will probably double over the next 6 months.

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To: Ron who wrote (224142)5/18/2012 4:01:04 PM
From: T L Comiskey2 Recommendations   of 236476
 
The Inequality Speech That TED Won't Show You

The Inequality Speech That TED Won't Show You
By Jim Tankersley
May 16, 2012 | 2:26 PM




    Friday update: Read the full profile of Nick Hanauer, and his millionaire's case for the middle class, here.

    Prepare to meet Nick Hanauer. He's a venture capitalist from Seattle who was the first non-family investor in Amazon.com. Today he's a very rich man. And, somewhat jarringly, he's screaming to anyone who will listen that he, and other wealthy innovators like him, doesn't create jobs. The middle class does - and its decline threatens everyone in America, from the innovators on down.

    (RELATED: Why This Speech Was Too Hot for TED)


    You'll read a lot more about Hanauer in the next installation of Restoration Calls, which drops tomorrow. In the meantime, check out the full text of a speech Hanauer gave in March at the TED University conference. You can't find the talk online, because TED officials have declared it too politically controversial to post on their web site. You be the judge:




    It is astounding how significantly one idea can shape a society and its policies. Consider this one.


    If taxes on the rich go up, job creation will go down.


    This idea is an article of faith for republicans and seldom challenged by democrats and has shaped much of today's economic landscape.


    But sometimes the ideas that we know to be true are dead wrong. For thousands of years people were sure that earth was at the center of the universe. It's not, and an astronomer who still believed that it was, would do some lousy astronomy.


    In the same way, a policy maker who believed that the rich and businesses are "job creators" and therefore should not be taxed, would make equally bad policy.


    I have started or helped start, dozens of businesses and initially hired lots of people. But if no one could have afforded to buy what we had to sell, my businesses would all have failed and all those jobs would have evaporated.


    That's why I can say with confidence that rich people don't create jobs, nor do businesses, large or small. What does lead to more employment is a "circle of life" like feedback loop between customers and businesses. And only consumers can set in motion this virtuous cycle of increasing demand and hiring. In this sense, an ordinary middle-class consumer is far more of a job creator than a capitalist like me.


    So when businesspeople take credit for creating jobs, it's a little like squirrels taking credit for creating evolution. In fact, it's the other way around.


    Anyone who's ever run a business knows that hiring more people is a capitalists course of last resort, something we do only when increasing customer demand requires it. In this sense, calling ourselves job creators isn't just inaccurate, it's disingenuous.


    That's why our current policies are so upside down. When you have a tax system in which most of the exemptions and the lowest rates benefit the richest, all in the name of job creation, all that happens is that the rich get richer.


    Since 1980 the share of income for the richest Americans has more than tripled while effective tax rates have declined by close to 50%.


    If it were true that lower tax rates and more wealth for the wealthy would lead to more job creation, then today we would be drowning in jobs. And yet unemployment and under-employment is at record highs.


    Another reason this idea is so wrong-headed is that there can never be enough superrich Americans to power a great economy. The annual earnings of people like me are hundreds, if not thousands, of times greater than those of the median American, but we don't buy hundreds or thousands of times more stuff. My family owns three cars, not 3,000. I buy a few pairs of pants and a few shirts a year, just like most American men. Like everyone else, we go out to eat with friends and family only occasionally.


    I can't buy enough of anything to make up for the fact that millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans can't buy any new clothes or cars or enjoy any meals out. Or to make up for the decreasing consumption of the vast majority of American families that are barely squeaking by, buried by spiraling costs and trapped by stagnant or declining wages.
    Here's an incredible fact. If the typical American family still got today the same share of income they earned in 1980, they would earn about 25% more and have an astounding $13,000 more a year. Where would the economy be if that were the case?


    Significant privileges have come to capitalists like me for being perceived as "job creators" at the center of the economic universe, and the language and metaphors we use to defend the fairness of the current social and economic arrangements is telling. For instance, it is a small step from "job creator" to "The Creator". We did not accidentally choose this language. It is only honest to admit that calling oneself a "job creator" is both an assertion about how economics works and the a claim on status and privileges.


    The extraordinary differential between a 15% tax rate on capital gains, dividends, and carried interest for capitalists, and the 35% top marginal rate on work for ordinary Americans is a privilege that is hard to justify without just a touch of deification


    We've had it backward for the last 30 years. Rich businesspeople like me don't create jobs. Rather they are a consequence of an eco-systemic feedback loop animated by middle-class consumers, and when they thrive, businesses grow and hire, and owners profit. That's why taxing the rich to pay for investments that benefit all is a great deal for both the middle class and the rich.


    So here's an idea worth spreading.


    In a capitalist economy, the true job creators are consumers, the middle class. And taxing the rich to make investments that grow the middle class, is the single smartest thing we can do for the middle class, the poor and the rich.


    Thank You.





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    From: Travis_Bickle5/18/2012 7:15:37 PM
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    If I could ask the President a single question it would be "Are you tapping the bootay?"

    Nobody in the press ever asks him that.

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    To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (224144)5/18/2012 7:35:04 PM
    From: T L Comiskey   of 236476
     
    tantum religio potuit suadere malorum

    The practice of religion leads people to practice evil.

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    To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (224144)5/18/2012 8:09:57 PM
    From: Metacomet   of 236476
     
    Interesting off the wall phrasing...

    Makes ya wonder

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    To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (224139)5/18/2012 8:17:29 PM
    From: SiouxPal   of 236476
     
    Apple stock: One indicator is flashing a clear buy signal
    Friday, May 18, 2012 @ 5:32 pm › MacDailyNews
    “Welcome to Apple (AAPL) hell,” Stephen Rosenman writes for Seeking Alpha. “The stock has gotten pummeled, dropping over 100 points since its April $644 high. Awful and painful, but nothing new as I’ve explained before. Apple pain happens every year.”

    “Sometimes the stock gets mired in a hopeless malaise. Sometimes it craters. It’s always brutal either on a point basis or a time basis or both. It can last two months or nine,” Rosenman writes. “It happens every year. Different reasons, same miserable tape. Everyone remembers Apple’s fabulous climbs and everyone knows about this recent share price collapse, but very few recall the annual bruising Apple takes each year on a regular basis.”

    Rosenman writes, “Witness the 2005 stellar Apple run from $35 to $85 in 8 months, followed by a 6 month 42% decline. That decline followed a sensational quarter. Yet, the market believed Apple had nothing left to offer the consumer. Apple was caput, relegated to the dustbin… And yet, you’ve got to look on the bright side. Every time, the market has written Apple off (and it happens every friggin’ year), the stock silences its bears with outrageous gains… For what it’s worth, the market gave Apple investors a momentous buy signal: The Relative Strength Index (RSI) for the stock dropped to 30. Last year, that was the biggest Apple trading event of the year: It marked the very bottom for the stock. Apple rose 35% over the next 4 months.”

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    To: PartyTime who wrote (224132)5/18/2012 9:11:11 PM
    From: altair19   of 236476
     
    PT

    Fantastic!

    Altair19

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    To: Travis_Bickle who wrote (224144)5/18/2012 9:20:17 PM
    From: SiouxPal   of 236476
     

    Facebook Gets Its Very First 'Sell Rating'
    Aww, look at that: Facebook shares have their very first "sell rating" from a Wall Street analyst.

    Brian Wieser of Pivotal Research Group wasted little time in slapping a "sell" recommendation and a $30 price target on Facebook, which was recently trading at less than $39 a share, up a buck from its IPO price. Not a rip-roaring start for Zuck & Co., and Wieser thinks it will get worse, at least in the short term:



    While we consider ourselves optimistic on the company’s underlying business opportunity and regard its prospects for durable success as favorable, we view shares as being “priced for perfection."

    -- Mark Gongloff

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    From: illyia5/18/2012 10:26:17 PM
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    Recovery Begins When Addiction Ends: An Open Letter to Jamie Dimon
    By the Alternative Banking Working Group of Occupy Wall Street

    Dear Jamie Dimon:

    We, the Alternative Banking Working Group of Occupy Wall Street, are staging an intervention on your behalf. Unlike many in the financial industry and press, we will not be deceived by attempts at misdirection and we are not intimidated by complexity. Your days of gambling with taxpayers’ money and pressuring the regulators to let business go on as usual are over. It’s not good for you, it’s not good for us, and it’s not good for our country.

    It’s been a good ride, and we’ve been impressed with how long you have managed to keep it up. The incredible complexity of the financial system helped, of course, just as it helped obscure countless other crimes and frauds.

    It’s truly a work of art how you and your enablers have created a system that nobody fully understands. It’s the perfect cover for your continuing addiction to risk, power, and money, and it keeps everyone confused just long enough, well past any statute of limitation for criminal prosecution.

    Now your addiction is out of control. Rather than quitting while you and JPMorgan Chase were ahead (if you ever were), you’ve been driven to inhale every last dollar, no matter the risks involved for you and for all of us. What has really worked for you personally, and has allowed you to remain credible for so long, is your intense denial as to the underlying question of what year it is.

    You seem to live in a time warp where it is still 2004, the housing market is booming, along with the associated securities market, and you and your friends are printing money with no downside in sight. But it turns out that ’04 model was a bit of a lemon — or, to borrow your words, “poorly conceived, poorly vetted, and poorly executed.”

    Here is some sobering news: You are, in fact, living in 2012, leading an enormous, too-big-to-fail bank, which is being continuously bailed out by the Fed’s unlimited loans at 0% interest, on the taxpayers’ dime. In a reasonable world, under these conditions, JPMorgan Chase would be a utility bank focused on the public good, and you would be merely its custodian. You would not be incentivized to take crazy risks to chase yield. Your job would be incredibly boring and your bank only very mildly profitable.

    But, sadly, the addiction is still doing the talking. So we’re here to say “no more.” It’s time to put down that fifth drink and walk away from the baccarat table, because no matter how many martinis you have and no matter how much money you lose, you’re still a glorified accountant, not a secret agent. And that’s fine. There’s nothing that JPMorgan Chase, and the world economy for that matter, needs more than a very good accountant.

    Perhaps you will protest that you don’t need this intervention. In fact, over the past few days you have repeatedly acknowledged your sloppiness, stupidity, and bad judgment. And though that sounds compelling and humble, as we know you expect it to, you haven’t gone far enough to demonstrate that you understand just how deeply in trouble you are. And don’t claim stupidity – “stupid” isn’t a word associated with Jamie Dimon. You need to admit that you are powerless over your addiction and that your bank has become unmanageable.

    Here is what we ask of you:

    First, stop gambling with our money and our futures. Stop lobbying for deregulation — we are way past that now. Stop lying to us all by doing silly things like pushing proprietary trading into the treasury office and renaming it, or by pretending that there are no losses when there very clearly are, to the tune of $2,000,000,000 and growing. And, please, stop trying to convince us that nobody at JPMorgan Chase saw this coming. Ina Drew was offering to resign in April but you kept telling the world that nothing serious was amiss, a lie which could get you serious jail time.

    Second, admit that your bank is too big to take risks that neither you nor anyone in your bank understands or is able to handle, and that the only thing that will stop you from misbehaving is strong, enforced, and uncompromised regulation.

    Third, resign as Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It is inappropriate, and dangerous to us, for you to oversee the banking system or the economy when you have proven incompetent at overseeing your own bank — particularly since the Federal Reserve is investigating your bank and your behavior.

    Because this in an intervention, you’re going to need to get used to a lot of new folks who will challenge the bad decisions that have become habit for you. The SEC should be facilitating the first step by getting you into a full in-patient rehab program, where the Fed, the FDIC, and every other regulator who has an interest in your bank’s good health can help you make a searching and fearless moral inventory of your bank and its choices. Although the “revolving door” connecting Wall Street to the Beltway has turned our regulatory agencies into the Keystone Kops of the 21st century, your crisis should serve as a wake-up call and put an end to their denial as well.

    When you reach your twelfth step, you can help the regulators write tougher regulations based on the knowledge you acquired during your efforts to undermine them.

    After all, if you can’t manage the risk, then nobody can. And you’ve taken the first step by admitting that you can’t. Now take the other eleven.

    Best regards,
    The Alternative Banking Working Group
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/05/recovery-begins-when-addiction-ends-an-open-letter-to-jamie-dimon.html

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