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To: Mike Buckley who wrote (1354)1/21/2005 1:36:01 AM
From: Uncle Frank   of 2937
 
>> Indeed, those two quarters make the trailing free cash flow about $1.7 billion. Yep, that's staggering, and may be what you are referring to.

Yup, that was it.

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To: Uncle Frank who wrote (1356)1/21/2005 10:12:06 AM
From: Thomas Mercer-Hursh   of 2937
 
Yup, that was it.

Nice recovery ...

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To: Apollo who wrote (1340)1/22/2005 10:41:44 PM
From: tinkershaw   of 2937
 
<<<Why does CREE have a virtual lock on Si Carbide based LEDs?
What is the sustainable competitive advantage, and what underpins this?>>>

What CREE has is process, knowledge, and execution. What is Dell's lock on its market? Better distribution and production system that no one has been able to emulate. CREE's is similar and I think they have a very strong competitive advantage going forward.

As evidence of this, CREE for the past 5 years has been able to consistently grow revenues and earnings while maintaining consistent and even rising margins despite low cost Taiwanese manufacturers, quarter after quarter after quarter.

SiC has some inherent advantages over its popular substitute sapphire. CREE is not the only company working with SiC, but CREE appears to my knowledge to be the only company working with high quality SiC sufficient to produce LEDs that can compete at the high end of the market and of sufficient quality to produce power chips (albeit, CREE still needs improvement here but no one is really close).

CREE does have IP, it can flex its muscle from time to time there, but CREE's real competitive advantage is its process in a market moving so quickly that there is no time to catch up, at least at the high end where CREE continues to stay. You still their process, take a year to get it into place and producing, the bus has already left.

For a King, I call CREE something of a super-King in regard to competitive advantage in SiC. This does not remove the competition from sapphire based products that have to compete with certain advantages and certain disadvantages.

Tinker

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To: tinkershaw who wrote (1358)1/23/2005 10:19:33 PM
From: Apollo   of 2937
 
Thanks Tinker for taking the time to reply on Cree.

As royalty, Cree must be an inherently riskier play, and bears very close watching by investors.

Your explanation indicates Cree is NOT a gorilla, nor doesn't have the potential to be a gorilla. Not an ARMHY or Qcom, which would seem to be safer longterm plays.

Apollo

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To: Apollo who wrote (1359)1/24/2005 6:14:32 AM
From: alanrs   of 2937
 
Not an ARMHY

Regarding ARM, where does MIPS (the other 'reduced instruction set chips' company) fit in? I've owned a little of both for quite a while, and MIPS the stock has been the better performer.
Despite owning them both, I really haven't paid much attention to either in a long time and have lost track of relative market share. Thought you might have some feel for that.

ARS

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To: alanrs who wrote (1360)1/24/2005 11:47:39 AM
From: Apollo   of 2937
 
Tinker is the man on ARMHY.

APOLLO

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To: Apollo who wrote (1359)1/24/2005 6:32:30 PM
From: tinkershaw   of 2937
 
<<<Your explanation indicates Cree is NOT a gorilla, nor doesn't have the potential to be a gorilla. Not an ARMHY or Qcom, which would seem to be safer longterm plays.>>>


That is correct. CREE is subject to sapphire competition from the Taiwanese and elsewhere as a substitute. CREE's lock on SiC is its process. I think this lock is nearly as solid as what many Gorillas actually have, but it requires continuous execution and SiC itself is not an element valued by the market but rather more light, more efficiently, with smaller packaging, at less cost. In this sapphire competes but as long as CREE continues to execute SiC will out cost/benefit sapphire.

Now as for ARMHY and QCOM vs. CREE, QCOM is in a completely different category, talk about them later.

But vs. ARMHY. ARMHY has me rubbing my noggin. It is the first so called "Gorilla" that pisses nobody off. Can you even be a Gorilla if you have so little market power that you piss nobody off? Or maybe it is just British of them. I don't know.

I do see ARMHY as being a Gorilla, no doubt about that. But is it a Gorilla in a niche too small? I don't know. I think 2005 will be a tough year as cell phone growth will slow in 2005, although it might break open again come 2006. ARMHY is certainly going through a transition to try to get itself out of the niche, no telling if it will succeed. But if anyone in the IP industry it is in is going to succeed it will be ARMHY.

Now on to QCOM. On the Fool I cited an article about over 1 billion cell phones sold per year by 2008 I believe and turnover to almost double. Merrill Lynch came out with a report stating that by 2008, or was it 2007, that they expect that 210 million WCDMA phones could sell per year. Doing back of the napkin calculations it is frightening, QCOM, without having to reach for the moon, could literally triple or more their earnings by 2008 if WCDMA blossoms in this regard.

Cell phone growth itself may be 10-20% per year, but the transition to WCDMA would create an enormous upsuck of CDMA marketshare as 3G takes off, and all of these phones would be previously untapped markets. It is such an adacious, yet frightening enough probability of actually happening, I had to go out and buy a lot more QCOM today with more money set aside that might just buy some more. I am now 100% QCOM in my non-tax deferred accounts. My tax deferred accounts are SEPs so those are rather large since I can take the maximum allowed on each, but heck, I might just start buying some QCOM for those accounts as well. But much too much to go into here, later discussion.

Any event, I think CREE is a year or so away from yet another LED Tornadic event, and that would be when LCD TVs start rolling out in a bigger fashion. If CREE can win their share of business there it will put the cell phone market (presently 40% + of their business) to shame and off to the races again.

Good time to be investing again. Market certainly not overpriced for most (no comment EBAY, think it is overvalued given slowing growth and Asia will take longer to develop, it is not just another U.S./German market)) and future discontinuities are numerous and foreseeable to a reasonable degree. CREE could have a banner next few years if LCD takes off and CREE wins its share of this business. Hey, maybe they'll even have a blue laser by then;)

ARMHY, waiting for the transition. More cores per phone from 1 to 2 and ARMHY's non-wireless markets moving into 50% or more of its revenues. Agree the business fundamentals are low risk, what I am not clear on is future growth path which would reignite stock growth.

Tinker
If you can't tell, and not that it is any stranger to this board, but again psyched on QCOM for risk/reward going forward. But I think this forward WCDMA prognostics which was started by Merrill Lynch needs some more analysis.

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To: alanrs who wrote (1360)1/24/2005 6:40:23 PM
From: tinkershaw   of 2937
 
ARS,

I really have not followed MIPS that much, because frankly, it has been no more than an Apple to MSFT in regards to ARMHY. But MIPS stock has been overperforming. I don't necessarily see the fundamental reason why, but sure enough so it has.

I think perhaps, it is because ARMHY is making a transition. The wireless market is moving 2 2 or more cores per phone, but that transition is only slowly happening, thereby ARM's wireless market is somewhat mature at the moment. In addition ARM's non-wireless markets have not been taking off as quickly, or penetrating as deeply, as ARM would like. Another transitional period. On the other hand, much less is expected of MIPS, and much less is given. But relatively speaking, MIPS may be overperforming its expectations.

ARMHY is clearly the Gorilla in the wireless category, MIPS not gonna challenge ARMHY. But ARMHY has yet to prove two things: (1) it can migrate into and dominate another major sector, and (2) the wireless category has not matured and that its growth will eventually reignite ARMHY growth (ie, 2 or more cores per phone to go along with more phones each and every year, to go along with more royalties, not just on the cores, but also on software for the cores - so in sum, double the amount of cores per phone, plus the software royalty on top).

If ARMHY proves this case the stock will rock in the next few years. MIPS has less to prove, and like with Apple, a little marketshare can mean quite a bit to MIPS. I think its relatively better stock performance reflects this. But other than that, since MIPS is really a gnat in comparison to ARM, I have not bothered to look at it in detail. I am told that MIPS actually cut its R&D to improve its bottom line, which in the technology world is not a positive sign, but I may have been mislead in regard to that.

Tinker
Don't think 2005 will necessarily be a good year for ARM, looking more towards 2006-2010 or beyond time frame. One analyst at Business Week/S&P has stated that she thinks ARM could grow earnings for the next 10-20 years at a 20% CAGR. And sure enough, given the history of the semiconductor industry and ARM's tollbooth keeper sort of positioning, I don't think she is necessarily full of sh!t for saying so. But the full fledged, WCDMA like Tornado that QCOM may be run up on again is just not there presently.

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To: tinkershaw who wrote (1362)1/25/2005 4:15:51 PM
From: Apollo   of 2937
 
Qcom......

Tinker, thanx for your generous reply on Qcom and ARM.

My investment pattern resembles yours. Although, in following your various posts, I think you do some trading, such as Rambus. Different styles. Maybe it's because us docs are busier than you lawyers, so we don't have as much time to trade? <g>, just teasing.

I'm posting initial comments from the Fool board from Brational, the resident expert, IMHO, on Qcom. Tinker, I know you have already seen them; this is for our colleagues at G&K who don't subscribe to The Fool.

"I was out of the country when earnings were released, and did not have access to my spreadsheets with Qualcomm results. I apologize for failing in my duties, but I did notice that IC, BDaz and Dave Mock have taken up the slack, and then some. I did write some initial reactions to post while in Europe but somehow the Fool Board “ate” my long tirade and I got discouraged.

This would not be the first time that the market punishes the stock after stellar performance. In fact I think this seems to be more the norm than the exception. Especially this market, which seems intent on punishing tech stocks of every stripe. But almost every time that the price has suffered after an earnings release, it has come back and climbed higher, as predictably as the performance of the company has been over the past 12 or 15 quarters.

I have looked over the earnings release, read the numbers and the statements, and I fail to see anything that 99 percent of the companies in this world would not wish they could have accomplished. The year-over-year growth, both top line and bottom line, has been remarkable for a company of this size; the margins in both chipsets and especially in royalties are amongst the highest in the S&P 500, feeding into a cash stash that is now over $8B; and even BREW is beginning to make money.

One major transformation that the company has gone through in the past couple of years, since WCDMA started becoming a factor, is the robustness of its earnings. No longer are results dependent on what happens in Korea, China, or India, or with Verizon in the US. One market can get weaker in any given quarter, but overall company results remain solid and essentially on track. It used to be that we lived and died by the decisions of the Korean regulator to enforce handset subsidy bans on one or more of the operators, or the Chinese carefully-timed pronouncements on whether Unicom will take up CDMA or not. We sweated the details of protracted negotiations with the Nokias of the world about recognizing QCOM's intellectual property claims in WCDMA, then lived through the ups and downs of technological and market glitches of UMTS. QCOM management positioned the company's business admirably in terms of winning those battles, benefiting from two technology renewal cycles in its core CDMA (from 2G to 1X, and now again to EV-DO), and now entering a new competitive field in the much larger GSM world through WCDMA chipsets, all the while cushioned by royalties on every single WCDMA handset and data card sold, regardless of chipset inside.

Conventional wisdom holds that high reward calls for high risk. Those who rode through the higher risk days have indeed been rewarded; and now, as the risk appears lower going forward, with so many things lining up right for the company, perhaps the potential reward is thought to be less. What the market is telling us is that it is perhaps no longer enough for a company with over $6B in annual revenues to grow by better than 25% a year, execute admirably on all fronts, consistently exceed guidance, be the undisputed technology leader in its sector, be several years ahead of the curve in its vision for wireless in our society, etc…

Or perhaps the market is telling us it is confused, and does not understand the first thing about this sector, which would certainly not be the first time, nor the last. The downside risk in the company's performance is indeed quite well contained at this stage— the company guides for it, and will exceed it. But the potential upside is still very much beyond these conservative estimates, if not in the next quarter or two, then not much further into the future. The competition between handset makers is heating up on the high end like it has not in a while; there is every indication that a major replacement cycle is underway globally towards higher-end smart phones (I recently bought a Treo 650, only to find that many of my colleagues had done the same thing…). Wireless services are slowly but surely creeping in and on the cusp of a major rise. This all calls for better-featured and more expensive chipsets, and QCOM's QSI will continue to benefit. Handset ASP's are on the rise instead of declining that they had towards the end of the 2G cycle; coupled with larger handset volumes, we'll continue to see higher QTL numbers.

I have shown several times how actual performance has significantly exceeded initial guidance given by the company over the past eight or so quarters. The surprise factors are now looming larger than they have over that period, yet we are still getting guidance comparable in magnitude to the initial conservative guidance we have become accustomed to from the company. The market has chosen to value the company at what many analysts consider below the value that should be accorded to the conservatively-guided company performance. Call it the low-risk valuation. Those of us who have followed the company's business over many years seem to believe there is much more in store; that's perhaps the higher risk scenario for this company's performance. Once the market understands this higher-risk scenario, we will at least get our low-risk valuation, plus a well-deserved quality and consistency premium. Eventually, as the higher-risk scenario starts proving out, so will the reward.

I'll crunch the numbers through my spreadsheets in the next day or two. Again, apologies for failing to deliver on time.

BR"

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To: Uncle Frank who wrote (1356)1/25/2005 5:36:33 PM
From: stockman_scott   of 2937
 
News: EMC Quarterly Net Jumps on Strong Sales

EMC, the world's largest data storage equipment
manufacturer, on Tuesday posted a 46 percent rise in
quarterly profit boosted by strong year-end sales and
further market share gains against rivals. Check out the
numbers.

eweek.com 

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