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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (965)12/15/2009 7:21:57 PM
From: X Y Zebra1 Recommendation   of 1250
 
no, no, no.... no apology needed. i did not take as criticism.... i actually tend to agree with you as some of these magazines, do tend to be less objective... i am simply not familiar with the particular magazine, other than a point of reference...

in the end it is one's own palate who really ought to rule what wines one should buy...

of course... practice makes perfect and i cannot think of a better subject [than wine] to be a perpetual student... -g

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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (920)12/15/2009 8:30:54 PM
From: X Y Zebra1 Recommendation   of 1250
 
new find... (for me)

Reserve de L'Aube
vin de pays d'oc
Syrah - Merlot
Pere Anselme
2008
*France*

price: $7.00 :)

imported by Chateau Vegas Wines, Inc.
Las Vegas, NV 89118

fromvineyardsdirect.ie 

very nice country wine, i assume as an experiment... from Languedoc Roussillon (south of France) blending merlot and syrah (great combination used in Australia). and the price.... superb!

i do not particularly prefer Merlot (on its own) which usually yields a soft wine... (once i had a bottle of ch. Petrus... i confess to be disappointed *forgot the year*) but when blended... nice job of mellowing sturdier grapes (such as cabernet sauvignot and in this instance, syrah). blend is syrah 65% - merlot 35%

i think Australians started blending Syrah and cabernet sauvignon, then syrah with merlot... and now they are doing it in the south of france... nice wine. (not 100% on this)

lots of fruit... blackcurrant - cherry... paired with hot italian sausage. once i suggested to a wine grower (of syrah), to market his wine by suggesting to pair it with slightly hot mexican food (not the fiery kind where you need beer, tequila, or a pair of scissors to cut off your tongue -g)

and the best of it (considering the price) it did not give me a headache, which means they did not overuse sulfites.... (that is my own barometer of quality connected to the amount of sulfites some winemakers tend use in order to 'industrialize' wine production).

at the time i was suspect of the recommendation (and price) after tasting it.... i will go back and buy MORE.

i will make a public mea culpa, in which i used to consider (long ago) australian winemakers, wine sacrilegeurs and in need to hire italian, french, or spanish chai's... because the early australian wine i had, tasted like chewed up grape vine leaves... (even worse than the very early non-blended american cabernets *that tasted like green grapes made by tennessee moonshiners*) understand: my wine upbringing at an early age, (12 years old), when my father started allowing me to taste wine from his cellar on special occasions (and it was not sangria, which i started at an even earlier age -g) all i knew it was fine bordeaux blends, a few superb bourgogne, and naturally, riojas of the highest quality (now, in my opinion, non-existent, since i have never been able to find that very peculiar earthy flavor from rioja anymore)... a yes, and a few italian wonderful wines.... (*)

i used to call australian wines, viking wine, the one drunk after pillaging a town, complete with ravaging women stealing candy from children, and overall murder of bankers, politicians, bishops, and bureaucrats... (just kidding)

well, i have been proven wrong over time... since both australian and american wine makers have surpassed by a lot... my wine tasting experiences and expectations. in fact, i keep learning about new regions where great wine is made... very good news to wine drinkers... i am not so sure these are good news to the courageous wine makers who have invested millions in their passion....

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To: estatemakr who wrote (955)12/15/2009 9:09:20 PM
From: X Y Zebra1 Recommendation   of 1250
 
But hey, I'm willing to practice

practice makes perfect.... :)

wine is probably the best subject to become a perpetual student... seriously...

the more you drink, *judiciously* and inform yourself of what you are drinking, the better you become... over the long run,
you will benefit the most, by your knowledge, the pleasure you get, and *given your stated situation* possibly build a respectable collection, that if bought with discipline and in measure... will increase in its value...

a case of liquid assets that you can enjoy daily....

a few hints where to get more ideas...

winearomawheel.com 

en.wikipedia.org 

Robert Parker says he will have a wine cellar management tool

erobertparker.com 

Parker's Wine vintage chart:

erobertparker.com 

who makes the most wine....

en.wikipedia.org 


UC Davis Wine store:

bookstore.ucdavis.edu 
Great Wine Terroirs

bookstore.ucdavis.edu 

anyway... let your passion and (taste) be your guide....

salud....

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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (966)12/15/2009 9:49:07 PM
From: Peter Dierks   of 1250
 
I have been reeding the Wine ADvocate since the early years when it was just Robert Parker. I let my subscription lapse a while back and was surprised to learn just how large the staff had gotten.

The Wine Speculator has had a large staff for quite a while and some I agreed with and others less so. I have read numerous other books and publications through the years.

One nice thing about subscribing to a service that has expertise is you can buy wines that are excellent outside your comfort zone from which to expand your palette.

I actually enjoy lots of wine that others I know find disgusting. Gigondas and Saint Joseph regions are two such types. I still prefer a Grand Cru Bordeaux or Burgundy.

Sunday night I had some Seavey Cabernet that was outstanding. I don't recall the year, but it was great. We went through much of three bottles of it at a family gathering.

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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (968)12/15/2009 10:32:49 PM
From: Mark Marcellus   of 1250
 
Robert Parker says he will have a wine cellar management tool

No need to wait. This one is exceptional, gives you a lot for free, already has a huge database of tasting notes, and has a vibrant and diverse community:

cellartracker.com 

For many people, the features available for free will be plenty. But if you are getting to the point where it's difficult to keep track of your bottles and you want to start getting a handle on what you have, it is definitely worth while to become a paying member and get access to the premium features. The suggested annual rate for the first tier (up to 500 bottles) is a fairly modest $30.

Highly recommended.

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To: Mark Marcellus who wrote (970)12/16/2009 11:12:49 AM
From: X Y Zebra   of 1250
 
thanks for the link... lots of information and good stuff.

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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (969)12/16/2009 11:28:49 AM
From: X Y Zebra   of 1250
 
so long is not pink wine.... i am willing to try anything at last once

pink wine... is not wine (for me) not red, not white... somewhere 'in between' that mother nature did not intent to create -g

even though i will admit that in my younger days, i did drink some mateus.... it was like my personal dark ages as far as wine drinking goes...

would gigondas and st. joseph (in general) tend to be quite hearty wines ? i think i tried a wine from gigondas long ago, but i do not recall ever trying anything from st joseph

i will look for them and see what i find....

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (962)12/16/2009 11:45:44 AM
From: Peter V   of 1250
 
Pinot Noir, 2006, Cambria, Julia's Vineyard. Over the past several years, I've seen a lot of good reviews on the Cambria, Julia's Vineyard Pinots, but admit I've never tried it. If it's as good as I've read about, $15 is a pretty good deal.

lawineco.com 

2009 The Wine Enthusiast Top 100: #1

"This is the best Pinot Noir at this price on the market. Easily. It’s picture-perfect cool climate, absolutely dry and silky, with complex flavors of cherries, Mandarin orange, cola, pomegranates, licorice and cinnamon spice, made even richer by smoky oak. Just lovely, and gets even better as it breathes in the glass." (Wine Enthusiast)

Winery Notes:
Aromatic and velvety Julia's Pinot Noir, named for owner Barbara Banke's younger daughter, is a signature wine of the estate.
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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (972)12/16/2009 12:30:46 PM
From: Peter Dierks   of 1250
 
Gigondas and St. Joseph are from the Rhone region.

Gigondas bills themselves as an inexpensive alternative to Chateaux Nuef du Pape. It is made from (drum roll please) Grenache, Syrah and Mourvèdre. All three are present in many CNduP wines.

Saint Joseph is a a Northern Rhone wine. The wines I have drank from it tend to be thick, heavy and substantial.

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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (974)12/16/2009 12:38:43 PM
From: X Y Zebra   of 1250
 
thanks....


i will look for both... and... i cannot remember if you like australian wines.... did you say they had too much fruit for your liking.. can't remember.

look forward to drinking these two

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