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From: Jimh0687/1/2011 5:26:31 PM
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I don't think I can hold my breath muchhhhh longerrr.

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To: silvertoad who wrote (109818)7/6/2011 2:46:51 PM
From: jmiller099   of 109993
 
They're still better than 1x...

02/26/2010 DGP @ $27.28
RTQ right now: $48.4368 which is a gain of 77.23%

Gold was about 1100 that day. 77% higher is $1947. Gold is now about $1530.

Conclusion: It performs much closer to 2x than 1x over time.

Risk: It is a paper holding and probably subject ot the first rounds of scrutiny of the admin's bias against gold. Further, I am unclear on how the new talk about limiting paper gold trading impacts their strategy to maintain a 2x gold exposure.

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To: The Jack of Hearts who wrote (109838)7/11/2011 12:17:53 AM
From: TobagoJack2 Recommendations   of 109993
 
The blog seems to assume that Moody's n s&p rating agencies are not part n parcel to the entire setup as convincers

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To: TobagoJack who wrote (109847)7/20/2011 7:25:20 AM
From: westpacific2 Recommendations   of 109993
 
China...

“You have to look at what’s driving growth in China, it’s mainly investments,” said Patrick Chovanec, an associate professor at Tsinghua University in Beijing.

“This investment is being financed by expanding the money supply, which is fuelling inflation,” he added.

Analysts also said that given the huge amount of loans that had been extended by the Chinese banks, there were concerns about asset bubbles being formed in the country.

“A lot of the investment that is going out, there is a real question being raised about whether it is going to generate return and a lot of it has started to show up as bad debt in the banking system,” Prof Chovanec said.

He warned that the current path of growth in China was unsustainable.

“What we are seeing is not necessarily a strong economy, it’s an economy that has been pumped up on steroids,” he said.

However, Prof Chovanec said that despite the government efforts to rein in growth, a lot of people China wanted the credit-led growth to continue.

“There is a tug-of-war between those who say keep lending and let growth continue, versus those who are more concerned about inflation and want to rein it in,” he said.

And while the spokesperson for China’s statistics office this week downplayed the danger for a so-called hard landing of the country’s economy saying the risk for a severe slowdown was small, Patrick Chovanec is not so sure.

“What China has is growth on steroids,” he says. “It looks like growth and it looks like a strong economy, but resources and energy are not being channeled to the most productive parts of the economy.”

Chovanec believes that the central government can indeed soften and manage the economic downturn that he believes is inevitable, he is simply not convinced that they they will because of the political and economic risks involved.

“They can kick the can down the road,” he says and push back the inevitable, but ultimately that will only make things harder in the long run.

“China will have a correction, China needs a correction,” predicts Chovanec.

by prchovanec
July 19, 2011

chovanec.wordpress.com 

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Kicking the can all over the place; extend and pretend, what else can we call it! Soon most will be digging in trash cans to survive! West

Here too...on Greece, whom are insolvent! I laugh how again it is banks whom need capital; just to survive! Gotta love being a banker; F up and see no pain! LOL

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History records that in August 2001, the IMF oversaw a debt exchange for Argentina in an unsuccessful, last ditch effort to avoid default. Indecisive and confused action by European authorities seems doomed to ensure that this restructuring, if it eventuates, will be followed by others and an eventual messy, disorderly and expensive default.

The French proposal perpetuates the lack of acknowledgment that Greece has a “solvency” rather than a “liquidity” problem. Like the EFSF whose structure has been criticised as nothing more than a collateralised debt obligation (“CDO”), it uses financial engineering techniques to defer or disguise losses in an unending game of “extend and pretend”.

According to the Bank for International Settlements, French banks have exposures to Greece, including of around Euros 50-60 billion. German banks have exposures of around Euro 30-35 billion. These banks might result require new capital to absorb the writedowns...

Satyajit Das
July 12, 2011 12:02 PM

wilmott.com 

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To: westpacific who wrote (109848)7/20/2011 4:45:40 PM
From: TobagoJack2 Recommendations   of 109993
 
I distrust professors naturally, as a matter of course

If professors of the American economist ilk had their way, america would never have built the highway system or went to the moon.

At least china is only funding infrastructure rollout out of savings, as opposed to borrowing to fight fruitless wars and fill bottomless derivative shell holes on the banking-scape.

There is unproductive, and there is seriously unproductive.

Some professors believe china high-speed rail is an unproductive investment and a serious misallocation of savings. Such professors are cretins, and demonstrably so.

China is doing okay, just in process to sate a 600-years pent-up demand by tee-ing up excess savings to build what the civilization state needs as opposed to letting the Americans waste it all.

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To: TobagoJack who wrote (109849)7/21/2011 4:38:14 AM
From: westpacific   of 109993
 
MBA in Finance and Accounting (2005) from The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, where he graduated as a Palmer Scholar in the top 5% of his class.

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Distrust; I distrust political leaders whom are just out to line their own pockets and that includes those in China whom not only line their own pockets but set up family members in all the key ranks...

Patrick is young and smart; and what he writes is based on an outstanding mind. He was involved with Reagan; whom understood free markets and less legislation.

Chanos China Burst remains ahead; in that I have little doubt; as for the future history shall tell.

-there is little doubt that China comes out on top, unless we see radical political change in Europe and America, which could still happen with what is to come in the next four or five years!

All the best to you TJ and your growing family:

W

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To: westpacific who wrote (109850)8/3/2011 2:51:10 PM
From: Don Green   of 109993
 



MBA in Finance and Accounting (2005) from The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, where he graduated as a Palmer Scholar in the top 5% of his class

Which means or proves what?

Don

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To: westpacific who wrote (109850)8/5/2011 6:42:10 AM
From: Vic   of 109993
 


The easiest way to clean up this mess is to turn the clock back 50 years so we can start over. Today our biggest major problems are 1. free-markets 2.unions and 3. automation (to me it equals greed).I hate to admit that I am also part of the problem. Dwight D Eisenhower seen this problem coming and in a way I did but I didn't want to stop it because I was making more money and I wanted to make more and did. I know what its going to take to get our country back on our feet but I feel that it won't happen until our economy collapse. Look and study the pro and con' s of the things that I mentioned.(leave the government out of this because it is run by the people).

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To: ild who wrote (46519)8/28/2011 9:27:59 AM
From: TobagoJack   of 109993
 
An update

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To: westpacific who wrote (109848)9/18/2011 2:07:56 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu1 Recommendation   of 109993
 
Greece contrary to argentina has plenty of places to cut expenses and way too many assets that should be sold. At issue is stupid national pride and embeded reluctance to work as they do in core europe

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