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To: LindyBill who wrote (487946)5/21/2012 6:27:12 AM
From: unclewest1 Recommendation   of 536332
 
Nations have always gone after Pirates and their bases. One of our first Naval Ops was one of those in the Med, back when we were first formed as a Nation.


200 years later, we are still attacking them in the Med.
That makes my point about the whack-a-mole strategy.

Our regular armed forces need to learn the SF strategy of working by, with and through others.
They can't seem to get that down on a large scale.

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To: LindyBill who wrote (487939)5/21/2012 8:09:24 AM
From: D. Long   of 536332
 
The decision to “cut out” the House was made by the Framers in Philadelphia

The Senate used to be the representative chamber for the sovereign states. Senators used to represent their States, not the people of those states. Senate ratification of treaties was part of the shared sovereignty of the federal and state governments. The States had a say in whether their sovereignty was impinged.

The Senate is now the "upper chamber of the House of Representatives".

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To: LindyBill who wrote (487942)5/21/2012 8:23:43 AM
From: skinowski4 Recommendations   of 536332
 
>>> stomachache. I was instantly deluged with medical high technology and helpful doctors and nurses. My insurance paid the $6,000 bill without a murmur.<<<<<



I think there is something seriously wrong with this. Why should a stomachache cost $6000? 6K is a lot of money, more than 1/10 of the annual income for most families.

Why should an hour long encounter with those "helpful doctors and nurses" cost an equivalent of 5-6 weeks worth of a families' income? The argument that most people do not pay the full amount is not a good one. If only honest people pay their bills, how does this justify predatory pricing?

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To: unclewest who wrote (487954)5/21/2012 8:24:19 AM
From: D. Long   of 536332
 
200 years later, we are still attacking them in the Med

Piracy is the second oldest profession in the world. As long as there are shifty young men who can get in a boat with some kind of weapon, there will be pirates. It's no more possible to eliminate piracy than to eliminate the first oldest profession in the world. You can beat them up pretty good and get them to stop attacking your boats, though.

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To: skinowski who wrote (487956)5/21/2012 8:30:10 AM
From: D. Long   of 536332
 
Don't ever go to the hospital and say "chest pain", you'll have a $7,000 bill quicker than you can run to the door.

I had a very bad bout of bronchitis coupled with flu a few years ago. I got off a plane and got to my apartment at around 1 am, and was just having a horrible time of it, so I went to the hospital. I had pressure in my chest from bronchitis and a chest infection. They wired me up but good for a heart attack.

Had to fork over a good chunk of change for that prescription for some antibiotics and corticosteroids.

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To: D. Long who wrote (487958)5/21/2012 9:20:46 AM
From: skinowski3 Recommendations   of 536332
 
>>> Don't ever go to the hospital and say "chest pain", you'll have a $7,000 bill quicker than you can run to the door <<<


That's a good example of the costs of defensive medicine. Docs are not allowed to use their judgment, they have to follow protocols. If 1% of chest pain complainers who are sent home would end up having a heart attack, ER docs would have no time to work, they would be spending all their time in lawyers offices. So, they simply throw the book at everyone, with huge numbers of patients with clearly non-cardiac complaints getting admitted and having expensive evaluations.

The new thing will be CT angiograms of coronaries, done in the ER. They seem to have good negative predictive value. Maybe it's a good thing... if nothing else, they may prevent many, many thousands of expensive unnecessary admissions.

That 7K charge that you mentioned would be only for the ER. Admission would be charged separately. The pricing is obscene. That's what happens with government price controls -- there is always an opening which (by mistake or intentionally) was left unregulated, and that's were the pricing will go nuts.

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To: D. Long who wrote (487957)5/21/2012 9:30:38 AM
From: skinowski1 Recommendation   of 536332
 
Piracy?... I was always told that medicine was the second oldest profession.... :)

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To: skinowski who wrote (487960)5/21/2012 9:44:37 AM
From: goldworldnet   of 536332
 
The English idiom the World's second oldest profession is used to refer to a number of professions. One frequent use of the phrase is to refer to spies and spying. An explanation of this phrase is that it must be the second oldest profession because it is mentioned in the bible.

Ronald Reagan nominated politician as the second-oldest profession with the quip "It's been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."

Other frequently named professions are doctor, philosopher, lawyer, soldier, merchant and farmer.

en.wikipedia.org 

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To: Bridge Player who wrote (487911)5/21/2012 9:56:36 AM
From: DMaA1 Recommendation   of 536332
 
Just listening to an interview of Bills on a local station.

He is a high shool history and economics teacher. They were interviewing him between classes.

Said - We sent a lawyer, a comic, and a community organizer to Washington and look what happened. Why not a send a teacher?

That could resonate here. He's got a pretty think Mn accent too.

Interesting he is not a "get rid of the Fed" guy. Wants to eliminate the dual mandate and do some reorganizing.

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To: Copeland who wrote (487934)5/21/2012 10:19:44 AM
From: goldworldnet   of 536332
 
That's true. Negative responses are definitely easier to ferment than positive ones.

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