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To: LindyBill who wrote (484006)4/23/2012 9:42:35 PM
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“If I wanted America to fail” video goes viral, but Twitter suspends group’s account

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (484137)4/23/2012 9:55:24 PM
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Apparently there may be a Stand Your Ground immunity hearing ... if Zimmerman's attorney asks for it. That will be before the trial. The following from Jeralyn Merritt, a FL criminal defense attorney posting on talkleft:



Stand Your Ground and Self Defense
By Jeralyn,
Posted on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 06:47:25 PM EST

How do Florida's Stand Your Ground and self-defense laws fit into the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case and what's the difference between them?

.......
. Here's my synopsis, but I suggest reading Judge Hirsch's words.



Self defense is an affirmative defense to the crime of homicide. It has the effect of legally excusing the defendant from an act that would otherwise be a crime.

Stand your ground is not a defense, but an immunity statute, providing immunity from criminal prosecution. It is a bar to prosecution (and yes, arrest.)

A defendant charged with a crime who wants to raise Stand your Ground files a motion to dismiss claiming stand your ground immunizes him from prosecution. Here is a typical motion, filed in another case in December, 2011. Here's another filed in January, 2012.

A hearing is held before trial. The burden is on the defendant to prove by a preponderance of evidence that stand your ground immunity applies.

The judge weighs the facts. If the judge agrees the defendant has shown stand your ground immunity applies by a preponderance of evidence, the charges are dismissed. The defendant can't be prosecuted.

If the judge finds the defendant hasn't met his burden, (including if the disputed evidence is so equal on both sides the judge can't decide one way or the other) the case goes to trial to be decided by the jury. At trial, the defendant can still argue both self-defense and stand your ground immunity -- he only has to establish some evidence of his theory, which can be just his own testimony, that he acted in self-defense.

The prosecution must prove his guilt at the jury trial beyond a reasonable doubt. Which means, if the defendant raises self-defense or stand your ground at trial and gets the jury instruction, the state, which has the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, must disprove self-defense. If the jury has a doubt, the defendant must be acquitted.

If, at a pretrial hearing, a defendant meets his burden and establishes his claim of immunity by a preponderance of the evidence, any charge as to which the immunity applies would of course be dismissed. If, however, the court finds that the defendant has not met his burden, the court's ruling has no preclusive effect....

Such a defendant would still be free at trial to plead his claim of immunity to the jury. At trial the burden of proof is exclusively on the prosecution to establish the guilt of the defendant beyond and to the exclusion of a reasonable doubt.

To earn an acquittal, the defendant need do no more than show reasonable doubt - a quantum of evidence considerably less than a preponderance. And any attempt to bar a defendant from asserting a lawful defense based on the trial court's ruling that the defendant had not sufficientlv established that defense at a pretrial hearing would no doubt run afoul of the defendant's constitutional entitlement to a fair jury trial, see U.S. Const. amend VI; Art. I Sec16, Fla. Const.

.....
I've excerpted some of the relevant statutes on self-defense, stand your ground, murder, and manslaughter here.
http://www.talkleft.com/legal/flalaw.pdf



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I believe ( none / 0) ( #119)
by Jeralyn on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 01:14:29 AM EST

you are mixing up the statutes. Initiating a confrontation is not the test. Under the aggressor statute, in the dubious event it applies, the test is whether Zimmerman provoked the use of force by Martin. Not whether he pursued or confronted him verbally. Even if he followed Trayvon, and even if he confronted him and demanded to know what he was doing in the neighborhood, those actions don't make him an aggressor because they aren't acts that provoke the use of force. If Martin responded to being followed and verbally confronted (but not physically threatened) with a punch or head banging, Zimmerman will not be considered to have provoked that use of force. In addition, whether he's the aggressor or not, Zimmerman is entitled to use deadly force if he reasonably feared Trayvon was about to cause him serous bodily injury or that his life was in jeopardy. The only additional requirement imposed under the aggressor statute is that if he's found to be the aggressor, he also has to show he had no opportunity to extricate himself without using deadly force. If his nose was broken and his head bleeding from being hit, and he was on the bottom, it's unlikely anyone would find he could extricate himself. The state's best argument is that Trayvon's punch was not serious enough to put him in such fear. That would defeat not only his self-defense claim under standard self-defense, under SYG and under the aggressor statute. I believe the state is grasping at straws with its argument that profiling and confronting makes one an aggressor. I'm not even sure it will make that argument. I suspect it is using the profiling and confronting more for the purpose of proving second degree murder, as evidence of his ill-will towards Martin, which was rooted in his unjust perception Martin was a criminal, than it is to show he was the aggressor.
776.041 Use of force by aggressor.--The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who: (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless: (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.


http://www.talkleft.com/comments/2012/4/22/54738/3187/119#119



On the issue of bond, in case I don't get back to it soon, here's Judge Hirsch's decision in Wyche after holding an "Arthur Hearing" finding Wyche was entitled to bond. Again, it's a good explanation of the procedure.


http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/4/12/194725/132

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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (484155)4/23/2012 9:59:19 PM
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I agree with the Public Health people. Bird baths are mosquito breeders.

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From: LindyBill4/23/2012 10:26:00 PM
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Celebrate Civilization Day, Not Earth Day



By Adam Keiper
April 23, 2012 5:35 P.M.
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Frequent NRO contributor Robert Zubrin will be giving a talk on Tuesday, April 24, at the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C., discussing his new book Merchants of Despair: Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism. In the book, Zubrin chronicles and indicts the ideology that motivated the horrific population-control movement (the crimes of which are described in this excerpt from the book), the eugenics movement of a century ago, today’s radical greens, and other related projects. The discussion will start at 5:30 p.m. and will be followed by a book-signing and reception.

This lecture comes hard on the heels of the April 22 celebration of Earth Day, the annual holiday of the environmental movement. But, as Zubrin points out in an article in the Washington Times, the antihuman ideology that permeates much of modern environmentalism has given it a legacy that is hardly worth celebrating.

From the brutal policies of population control advocated by Paul Ehrlich (whose protégé John Holdren is now President Obama’s science adviser) to the incredible suffering caused by the banning of the malaria-controlling pesticide DDT, protecting the Earth has all too often been used as justification for bringing poverty and pain to humanity.

A sensible environmental movement would not be rooted in the antihuman ideology that underlies much of the rhetoric we hear on Earth Day. As Zubrin argues:

The Earth is not endangered by humanity. But humanity is being seriously harmed by those who portray us as a threat and seek to constrain humanity’s numbers, activities, creativity and liberty.

Instead of Earth Day, we should be celebrating Civilization Day.

Sounds like a good idea. Maybe we should celebrate Civilization Day on March 25 every year to mark the anniversary of the birth of Norman Borlaug, who launched the Green Revolution that has saved a billion lives and put the lie to the Malthusian fear-mongering of the antihumanists.

— Adam Keiper is editor of The New Atlantis and a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.




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To: SirWalterRalegh who wrote (484154)4/23/2012 10:26:29 PM
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We have a two party system and it's what we have to work with. Better Republicans than Democrats are in power.

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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (484164)4/23/2012 11:17:16 PM
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Update: Results. After conservatives online kicked up a fuss tonight, Free Market America’s Twitter account has been restored.

Good.

It does pay to get on Twitter. Every voice counts. And yes, Twitter is a political battlespace. Get on it.


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From: LindyBill4/23/2012 11:24:21 PM
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Jacksonville Fire Department

By Roger Clegg
April 23, 2012 4:43 P.M.
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And the claim, naturally, is that its use of written examinations for promotions has a “disparate impact” on African Americans. Not that the examinations are actually discriminatory in their terms, intent, or application — just that they have a politically incorrect statistical result.




The United States’ complaint alleges that the examinations impact African-American candidates in two ways. First, African-American candidates for promotion to the four positions pass the examinations at significantly lower rates than white candidates. Second, even those African-Americans who pass the examinations are rarely promoted because the fire department selects candidates for promotion in descending rank-order based primarily upon each candidate’s written examination score and African-American candidates score significantly lower than whites. Title VII prohibits employment practices that result in a disparate impact on the basis of race unless the employer can prove that such practices really test for what the job requires--are “job related and consistent with business necessity.” The complaint alleges that the City’s examinations do not meet this standard and, thus, qualified African-Americans have been kept out of the promotional ranks unnecessarily.





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From: LindyBill4/23/2012 11:29:52 PM
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To me, it appears that Europe will blow up in the next three years.

Single Currency, Omnishambles



By Andrew Stuttaford
April 23, 2012 3:57 P.M.
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Omnishambles is a future cliché in the making, but for now it’s a handy word to describe where things stand in the euro zone after the weekend.

In the Netherlands the government has now resigned, and nobody seems to know when the next election is going to be held (June? September?) and what its consequences will be.

The Guardian takes up the story here:

For the past 18 months, the finance minister, Jan Kees De Jager, has been the loudest advocate of the most rigorous austerity for the bailed out countries of the eurozone and of the punitive new fiscal rules. Hoist on its own petard, his government has fallen because it cannot agree on the spending cuts required to meet the new rules by next year. But the Dutch economy is fundamentally sound and prosperous with low unemployment. The head of the national office of budget forecasters, Coen Teulings, says the government simply needs time to make the structural changes required to comply with the rules. To insist that all this be done within a year, entailing huge savings and cuts that will make a relatively benign situation worse, represents a triumph of dogma over pragmatism.

Which is what the single currency always was…

Meanwhile, the Economist explains why Hollande is likely to win in France:

Many of Ms Le Pen’s voters, therefore, will not simply swing behind Mr Sarkozy in the run-off. However much he may try to court their vote by sounding an even harder line on immigration than he has already, these are people who simply do not like the man. One poll suggests that only 40% of her voters will now back Mr Sarkozy; 27% would support Mr Hollande; and 33% are undecided or would abstain.

In other words, Mr Sarkozy has far less of a potential extra second-round vote than the raw numbers might suggest. This is why Mr Hollande looks so strong. He gets 44% simply by adding up all the left-wing vote, both from Mr Mélenchon and other assorted anti-capitalists. Unlike the votes on the “right”, these look safe for Mr Hollande. Last night Mr Mélenchon called on his supporters to vote for Mr Hollande, as did Eva Joly, the Green candidate, who got 2.3%.

So all Mr Hollande needs is a small proportion of Ms Le Pen’s votes, and the rest from [ centrist candidate] Mr Bayrou. This is why, however well Mr Sarkozy does in the televised debate, due on May 2nd, his chances now look slim. Early second-round polls give Mr Hollande an eight-point lead in the second round, and not a single poll during the campaign has put Mr Sarkozy ahead.

The Daily Telegraph’s Bruno Waterfield takes a look at some different numbers:

Public spending is already running at 56pc of GDP, more than any other eurozone country. Unemployment is at its highest level in 20 years and French exports, in stark contrast to Germany, are stagnating…Whether he likes it or not, Mr Hollande needs the markets to smile on his policies because 59pc of government debt is held overseas by foreign investors, who have little sympathy for “la vie Française” or French Socialism. Even worse, France needs to raise cash equivalent to more than 18pc of GDP this year just to pay the interest on its debt. Next year the cost rises to 19.5pc of GDP, a figure that would increase under a Socialist administration.

Hollande of course wants to increase spending.

Mrs. Merkel is unlikely to be a very happy chancellor today.

In the Daily Telegraph Open Europe’s Mats Persson gets to the dark heart of the problem:

Beyond short-term electoral politics, the shifts in France and Netherlands are yet another reminder of the tension at the heart of the eurozone. When European Union leaders forged the euro they gambled on two hugely unpredictable factors: that economic forces could be kept in check, and that national democracies could be managed. Crucially, they wagered that, should an economic crisis necessitate a more integrated economic and political union, national voters and parliaments could be counted on to play along and vote the “right” way.

Oops.

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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (484164)4/23/2012 11:33:10 PM
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They only deleted one of the accounts of the people saying they wanted to kill Zimmerman.

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To: goldworldnet who wrote (484168)4/23/2012 11:58:06 PM
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Can Obama Safely Embrace Islamists?

By Michael Hirsh
April 23, 2012 | 11:44 AM
decoded.nationaljournal.com 
In an article in the current National Journal called "The Post Al Qaida Era," I write that the Obama administration is taking a new view of Islamist radicalism. The president realizes he has no choice but to cultivate the Muslim Brotherhood and other relatively "moderate" Islamist groups emerging as lead political players out of the Arab Spring in Egypt, Tunisia and elsewhere. (The Muslim Brotherhood officially renounced violence decades ago, leading then-dissident radicals such as Ayman al-Zawahiri to join al Qaida.)

It is no longer the case, in other words, that every Islamist is seen as a potential accessory to terrorists. "The war on terror is over," one senior State Department official who works on Mideast issues told me. "Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism."


The new approach is made possible by the double impact of the Arab Spring, which supplies a new means of empowerment to young Arabs other than violent jihad, and Obama's savagely successful military drone campaign against the worst of the violent jihadists, al Qaida.

Some of the smarter hardliners on the Right, like Reuel Marc Gerecht, are coming to realize that the Arab world may find another route to democracy--through Islamism. The question is, how will this play politically at a time when Obama's GOP rival, Mitt Romney, is painting the president as a weak accommodationist?

According to a senior advisor to Romney, the campaign is still formulating how to approach the new cuddle-up approach to Islamists. But the spectacle of an administration that is desperately trying to catch up to the fast-evolving new world of the Mideast fits into the Romney narrative of a president who "has been outmatched by events," the adviser said. "Obama came to power with a view of the region that would make progress in the Arab world and get the Iranians back to the table. He would deal with the Israeli-Palestinian issue, and the key to that was dealing with settlements. Instead it's been chaos."

The president may have no choice but to preside over chaos at this point--a chaos that may not be the disaster that critics say and may in fact be the Arab world's only path to modernity -- but it won't play well in the seven months between now and election day.


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