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To: LindyBill who wrote (473720)2/24/2012 12:21:04 PM
From: DMaA
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In theory I am not hostile to the idea of using American might to "do good". I just don't think in this nutty world you can ever tell that what you are doing is actually doing good.

Usually when you try to help the unambiguously good group A the chief beneficiaries are the unambiguously evil group Z.

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To: unclewest who wrote (473672)2/24/2012 12:21:18 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie
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My understanding is that the reason that the books were being burned was that it was a prison and the books were being used to pass messages.

It seems to me that if books, be they fiction or religious in nature, are used by the enemy for espionage, it is not only acceptable, it is required that they be burned.

This seems like the strategy of storing arms at mosques and then complaining when the mosque becomes a target.

I think that President Obama should have a sit down with Karzai to diplomatically tell him to STFU about the burned korans and start running is failed nation.

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To: Ish who wrote (473677)2/24/2012 12:22:05 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie
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Hell, I should get a happy ending with each tank.

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To: LindyBill who wrote (473721)2/24/2012 12:24:33 PM
From: DMaA
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Carter was every bit the moralizing preacher as Santorum.

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To: MrLucky who wrote (473688)2/24/2012 12:26:12 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie
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speaking of Mayor Villaraigosa....every year he throws out the first pitch at our little league. And he always gives a little inspirational speech that has smatterings of liberal propaganda splashed in. And every year I throw up a little in my mouth while I listen to his BS.

And he throws like a girl too.

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To: DMaA who wrote (473725)2/24/2012 12:38:47 PM
From: Brumar89
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Still is.

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To: unclewest who wrote (473672)2/24/2012 12:41:33 PM
From: Neeka
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Under these circumstances, I don't know why anyone would volunteer to serve ?

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US general calms troops after Afghanistan deaths

The top U.S. commander told his troops that now is not the time to seek revenge for the death of two Americans who were gunned down by an Afghan soldier during a protest over the burning of Qurans at an American base, even as fresh violence on Friday claimed seven lives.

By AMIR SHAH and PATRICK QUINN

The top U.S. commander told his troops that now is not the time to seek revenge for the death of two Americans who were gunned down by an Afghan soldier during a protest over the burning of Qurans at an American base, even as fresh violence on Friday claimed seven lives.

The new protests were evidence that President Barack Obama's apology has not calmed Afghans enraged by the incident at Bagram Air Field earlier this week. Protests sparked by the burnings have claimed 20 lives in four days.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai, parliamentarians and some clerics have also called for an end to the protests until an investigation into the incident is concluded in coming days.

The governor's office in western Herat province said six died in three incidents there.

Muhiuddin Noori, a spokesman for the governor, said three people were killed when a truck full of ammunition exploded after protesters set it ablaze. Three others died in two separate incidents when armed men among the protesters exchanged gunfire with security forces. He said at least 65 people were injured in the three protests.

In northern Baghlan province, Governor Abdul Majid said another protester died when Afghan security forces fired in the air to prevent demonstrators from storming a Hungarian base.

"There was a peaceful protest, but when it ended about 200 irresponsible young people ran toward the base and tried to enter the gate. There was shooting from the Afghan police and the army from several places and one man died and three were wounded," he said.

The violence came as the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan has told his troops that "now is not the time for revenge" for the deaths of two U.S. soldiers killed in Thursday's riots.

He told them Thursday to resist whatever urge they might have to strike back after an Afghan soldier killed the two American troops. His comments were released Friday.

"There will be moments like this when you're searching for the meaning of this loss. There will be moments like this, when your emotions are governed by anger and a desire to strike back," Allen said. "Now is not the time for revenge, now is not the time for vengeance, now is the time to look deep inside your souls, remember your mission, remember your discipline, remember who you are."

Afghan National Army Gen. Sher Mohammed Karimi, who traveled to the base with Allen, told the U.S. troops that their sacrifice is not wasted.

Karimi says the Americans and Afghans together are "fighting an enemy of humanity."

The unrest started Tuesday, when Afghan workers at the sprawling Bagram air base noticed that Qurans and other Islamic texts were in the trash that coalition troops dumped into a pit where garbage is burned. Some Afghan workers burned their fingers as they tried to salvage some of the books. Afghan government officials said initial reports indicated four Qurans were burned.

The materials had been taken from a library at Parwan Detention Facility, which adjoins the base, because they contained extremist messages or inscriptions. Writing inside a Quran is forbidden in the Islamic faith, although it was unclear whether the handwritten messages were found in the holy book or other reading materials.

A military official said it appeared that detainees at the prison were exchanging messages by making notations in the texts.

Obama apologized Thursday. In a letter to Karzai, Obama expressed "regret and apologies over the incident in which religious materials were unintentionally mishandled."

But that apology held little sway with Afghans upset at what they considered a serious violation of their religion.

"We don't care about Obama's apology," said Kamaluddin, a 25-year-old Kabul protester who uses only one name. "We have to protest to be responsible to our God. They are burning our Quran. An apology is not enough."

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seattletimes.nwsource.com

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To: DMaA who wrote (473725)2/24/2012 12:42:56 PM
From: Bridge Player
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Carter was every bit the moralizing preacher as Santorum.

What? Nah, can't be. Carter got elected, didn't he? I could have sworn he was president a few years back there.

I must be wrong. Everybody knows that a moralizing preacher emphasizing social issues during his campaign can't be elected.

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To: DMaA who wrote (473719)2/24/2012 12:43:24 PM
From: Alan Smithee
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Right, airlines turn around and go back to the airport they just left every day for non-security issues.

Move along, move along. Nothing to see here.

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To: Paul Smith who wrote (473718)2/24/2012 12:43:46 PM
From: D. Long
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The Saudis have cut production. I suspect that is the Saudi vote in the 2012 Presidential election.

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