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To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (21028)2/13/2007 10:21:45 PM
From: Scoobah
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If you look at all this from a biblical perspective and completely take away the fact that we live in the west,

You might conclude that this entire escalation is going to be yet another epic battle between Jacob abd Esau.

Isaac vs Ishmael.

take your pick,

I dont believe that israel continues to subjugate itself to the wishes of the US,

ultimately, they will act on their own, and when they do so, the earth will surely shake.

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From: Richnorth2/14/2007 9:09:40 AM
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Abolish The Federal Reserve
By Rep Ron Paul

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve. I also ask unanimous consent to insert the attached article by Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, which explains the benefits of abolishing the Fed and restoring the gold standard, into the record.

Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people.

From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble last year, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts.
With a stable currency, American exporters will no longer be held hostage to an erratic monetary policy. Stabilizing the currency will also give Americans new incentives to save as they will no longer have to fear inflation eroding their savings. Those members concerned about increasing America's exports or the low rate of savings should be enthusiastic supporters of this legislation.

Though the Federal Reserve policy harms the average American, it benefits those in a position to take advantage of the cycles in monetary policy. The main beneficiaries are those who receive access to artificially inflated money and/or credit before the inflationary effects of the policy impact the entire economy. Federal Reserve policies also benefit big spending politicians who use the inflated currency created by the Fed to hide the true costs of the welfare-warfare state. It is time for Congress to put the interests of the American people ahead of the special interests and their own appetite for big government.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy. The United States Constitution grants to Congress the authority to coin money and regulate the value of the currency. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a central bank. Furthermore, the Constitution certainly does not empower the federal government to erode the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy.

In fact, Congress' constitutional mandate regarding monetary policy should only permit currency backed by stable commodities such as silver and gold to be used as legal tender. Therefore, abolishing the Federal Reserve and returning to a constitutional system will enable America to return to the type of monetary system envisioned by our nation's founders: one where the value of money is consistent because it is tied to a commodity such as gold. Such a monetary system is the basis of a true free-market economy.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stand up for working Americans by putting an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans' standard of living, enlarges big government, and enriches well-connected elites, by cosponsoring my legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.


By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

As with all matters of investment, everything is clear in hindsight. Had you bought gold mutual funds earlier this year, they might have appreciated more than 100 percent. Gold has risen $60 since March 2001 to the latest spot price of $326.

Why wasn't it obvious? The Fed has been inflating the dollar as never before, driving interest rates down to absurdly low levels, even as the federal government has been pushing a mercantile trade policy, and New York City, the hub of the world economy, continues to be threatened by terrorism. The government is failing to prevent more successful attacks by not backing down from foreign policy disasters and by not allowing planes to arm themselves. These are all conditions that make gold particularly attractive.

Or perhaps it is not so obvious why this is true. It's been three decades since the dollar's tie to gold was completely severed, to the hosannas of mainstream economists. There is no stash of gold held by the Fed or the Treasury that backs our currency system. The government owns gold but not as a monetary asset. It owns it the same way it owns national parks and fighter planes. It's just another asset the government keeps to itself.

The dollar, and all our money, is nothing more and nothing less than what it looks like: a cut piece of linen paper with fancy printing on it. You can exchange it for other currency at a fixed rate and for any good or service at a flexible rate. But there is no established exchange rate between the dollar and gold, either at home or internationally.

The supply of money is not limited by the amount of gold. Gold is just another good for which the dollar can be exchanged, and in that sense is legally no different from a gallon of milk, a tank of gas, or an hour of babysitting services.

Why, then, do people turn to gold in times like these? What is gold used for? Yes, there are industrial uses and there are consumer uses in jewelry and the like. But recessions and inflations don't cause people to want to wear more jewelry or stock up on industrial metal. The investor demand ultimately reflects consumer demand for gold. But that still leaves us with the question of why the consumer demand exists in the first place. Why gold and not sugar or wheat or something else?

There is no getting away from it: investor markets have memories of the days when gold was money. In fact, in the whole history of civilization, gold has served as the basic money of all people wherever it's been available. Other precious metals have been valued and coined, but gold always emerged on top in the great competition for what constitutes the most valuable commodity of all.

There is nothing intrinsic about gold that makes it money. It has certain properties that lend itself to monetary use, like portability, divisibility, scarcity, durability, and uniformity. But these are just descriptors of certain qualities of the metal, not explanations as to why it became money. Gold became money for only one reason: because that's what the markets chose.

Why isn't gold money now? Because governments destroyed the gold standard. Why? Because they regarded it as too inflexible. To be sure, monetary inflexibility is the friend of free markets. Without the ability to create money out of nothing, governments tend to run tight financial ships. Banks are more careful about the lending when they can't rely on a lender of last resort with access to a money-creation machine like the Fed.

A fixed money stock means that overall prices are generally more stable. The problems of inflation and business cycles disappear entirely. Under the gold standard, in fact, increased market productivity causes prices to generally decline over time as the purchasing power of money increases.

In 1967, Alan Greenspan once wrote an article called Gold and Economic Freedom. He wrote that:
"An almost hysterical antagonism toward the gold standard is one issue which unites statists of all persuasions. They seem to sense--perhaps more clearly and subtly than many consistent defenders of laissez-faire--that gold and economic freedom are inseparable, that the gold standard is an instrument of laissez-faire and that each implies and requires the other. . . . This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights."

He was right. Gold and freedom go together. Gold money is both the result of freedom and its leading protector. When money is as good as gold, the government cannot manipulate the supply for its own purposes. Just as the rule of law puts limits on the despotic use of police power, a gold standard puts extreme limits on the government's ability to spend, borrow, and otherwise create crazy unworkable programs. It is forced to raise its revenue through taxation, not inflation, and generally keep its house in order.

Without the gold standard, government is free to work with the Fed to inflate the currency without limit. Even in our own times, we've seen governments do that and thereby spread mass misery.

Now, all governments are stupid but not all are so stupid as to pull stunts like this. Most of the time, governments are pleased to inflate their currencies so long as they don't have to pay the price in the form of mass bankruptcies, falling exchange rates, and inflation.

In the real world, of course, there is a lag time between cause and effect. The Fed has been inflating the currency at very high levels for longer than a year. The consequences of this disastrous policy are showing up only recently in the form of a falling dollar and higher gold prices. And so what does the Fed do? It is pulling back now. For the first time in nearly ten years, some measures of money (M2 and MZM) are showing a falling money stock, which is likely to prompt a second dip in the continuing recession.

Greenspan now finds himself on the horns of a very serious dilemma. If he continues to pull back on money, the economy could tip into a serious recession. This is especially a danger given rising protectionism, which mirrors the events of the early 1930s. On the other hand, a continuation of the loose policy he has pursued for a year endangers the value of the dollar overseas.

How much easier matters were when we didn't have to rely on the wisdom of exalted monetary central planners like Greenspan. Under the gold standard, the supply of money regulated itself. The government kept within limits. Banks were more cautious. Savings were high because credit was tight and saving was rewarded. This approach to economics is the foundation of a sustainable prosperity.

We don't have that system now for the country or the world, but individuals are showing their preferences once again. By driving up the price of gold, prompting gold producers to become profitable again, the people are expressing their lack of confidence in their leaders. They have decided to protect themselves and not trust the state. That is the hidden message behind the new luster of gold.

Is a gold standard feasible again? Of course. The dollar could be redefined in terms of gold. Interest rates would reflect the real supply and demand for credit. We could shut down the Fed and we would never need to worry again what the chairman of the Fed wanted. There was a time when Greenspan was nostalgic for such a system. Investors of the world have come to embrace this view even as Greenspan has completely abandoned it.

What keeps the gold standard from becoming a reality again is the love of big government and war. If we ever fall in love with freedom again, the gold standard will once more become a hot issue in public debate.


Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
September 10, 2002

The mass media that is controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations, Skull & Bones, and high freemasonry of the 33rd degree level want you to believe that anyone who says there is a conspiracy for world government and therefore destroy the Constitution is a quack. They use such phrases as: oh, another conspiracy theorists; right wing nuts, etc.

The mass media was used to destroy the credibility of Senator Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s even though he only discovered 10% of the Communist infiltration into the U.S. State Department. Even the Senate Subcommittee on Un-American Activities used the word conspiracy in its findings.

The key is: DISCREDIT ANYONE OF ANY CONSEQUENCE WHO COMES AGAINST THE CONSPIRACY! That was testimony in the Alger Hiss trial by a former Communist who left the conspiracy to fight and expose Communism.

All of the founding documents of the United States make clear that WE, THE PEOPLE, were to be free to enjoy LIFE, LIBERTY and PROPERTY.

**LIFE ­ increasing taxes starting in 1913 are sucking the LIFE out of Americans.

**LIBERTY ­ Americans can be jailed for any infraction or held hostage in jail until fines or taxes are paid.

**PROPERTY ­ Bank accounts can be seized; homes, automobiles and businesses seized to pay the ransom of taxes, penalties and interest.

How and why is this all happening to Americans? It is all based upon the Communist Manifesto! The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto are being enforced in America that usurps our Constitutional Rights. This is being done BY OUR OWN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLS EVERYTHING ­ THAT IS COMMUNISM!

1st Plank of Communism: Abolish Private Property. This is being accomplished by land use laws, property taxes, zoning laws, environmental laws, etc.

2nd Plank of Communism: A heavy progressive income tax. There was NO income tax until 1913 when it began at 1%, never to go above 2%. What are you paying?

3rd Plank of Communism: Abolish all rights of inheritance. Today, we have heavy legal and probate fees plus inheritance taxes.

4th Plank of Communism: Confiscate all property of emigrants and rebels (anyone who speaks out against the government). Unconstitutional Regional Government has been installed which controls all of the physical, social and economic assets of all the counties.

5th Plank of Communism: Centralization of Credit in the hands of the state. In America this was done in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act. At first, it was simply the International Bankers who controlled the Federal Reserve; but by 1933, the U.S. was bankrupt and these bankers foreclosed on America. They created a new form of government called Socialism that has replaced our once Constitutional Republic. Public Law 91-151 prohibits any person to extend credit without a special license: a $1,000 fine or one year in prison could result (not yet enforced). A Social Security number is required in a business transaction.

6th Plank of Communism: Control all means of Transportation and Communication. The mass media has been in the hands of the Marxist Council on Foreign Relations for years [One of the Communist Rules of Revolution was to get control of all media and use it for their propaganda]. Presidential Executive Orders #10999 and #10995 provide for the take-over of all transportation and communications. They provide for the regulating of airlines, railroads, highways and the news media. Look at Homeland Security and the military at airports.

7th Plank of Communism: All production is to be controlled BY the State. There is a massive number of federal guidelines that industry must follow. The federal government is now involved in over 850 businesses. The Federal Bureaucracy forces farmers to grow [or not grow] specific crops and sell them below production costs. No wonder thousands of farmers leave the land every year and conglomerates take over. We have Corporate Socialism in America!!!

8th Plank of Communism: Equal liability of ALL to labor. Women are forced out of the home to work just to survive. Equal opportunity employment for both sexes. Executive Order #11000 will force civilians into government work brigades.

9th Plank of Communism: Combine agriculture with manufacturing, thus abolishing the distinction between town and country. We have seen the emergence of Urban Renewal, Population Control, Metro Councils, Regional Government Planning Programs, and the plans to eliminate Counties, Local Government and State Borders.

10th Plank of Communism: Control ALL Education. Federal "aid" to education means we have government-controlled schools and curriculum.

All Ten Planks of the Marxists' Communist Manifesto are being forced upon us in America. Repent and cry out to God for deliverance. Our Senators and Representatives seemed to have no concept as to WHAT they are legislating upon our once FREE nation. If we continue on our present course, America will fulfill the prophecy by a presidential candidate in the 1930s that said they will give us small doses of Socialism until we wake up one day to find we have Communism.

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To: Richnorth who wrote (21030)2/14/2007 9:32:12 AM
From: Proud_Infidel
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How about sticking to the thread subject?

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To: Solon who wrote (20980)2/14/2007 9:35:12 AM
From: Proud_Infidel
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Re: What is the goal of censorship and segregation?


To “win”.

NONSENSE! Have you ever visited ANY thread American Spirit was a part of?

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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (21032)2/14/2007 9:47:13 AM
From: Scoobah
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the purpose of banning on this thread is simple,

it isnt to win,

winning over a diseased mind gains us nothing,

however, there is no need to allow a person with TB to caugh all over your face, now is there.

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To: Scoobah who wrote (21033)2/14/2007 9:54:03 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck
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Al-Qaeda calls for attacks on Canadian oil facilities
Ian MacLeod, CanWest News Service
Published: Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Al-Qaeda has called for terrorist strikes against Canada's oil and natural gas facilities to "choke the U.S. economy."

An online message, posted by The Al-Qaeda Organization in the Arabian Peninsula, declares "we should strike petroleum interests in all areas which supply the United States ... like Canada," the No. 1 supplier of both fuels to the U.S.

"The biggest party hurt will be the industrial nations, and on top of them, the United States," it said.

The group, the Saudi arm of Osama bin Laden's terrorist network, claimed responsibility for a thwarted February 2006 suicide attack on the world's largest oil processing facility at Abqaiq in Saudi Arabia's eastern province. The group also is believed responsible for other attacks against the Saudi energy sector.

Last week's message is contained in Sawt al-Jihad (Voice of Jihad), the group's online magazine. A feature article, titled "Bin Laden's Oil Weapon," encourages al-Qaeda operatives to continue to follow directives from Mr. bin Laden to strike oil targets not only in Saudi Arabia, but elsewhere, according to a translation by the SITE Institute, a non-profit U.S. group that monitors terrorist websites

Three western countries are singled out in the call-to-arms -- Canada first, followed by Mexico and Venezuela. Would-be attackers are instructed to target oilfields, pipelines, loading platforms and carriers.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service last night said it was aware of the posting, as is the federal Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.

"Do we think it's a serious threat? I can't get into that," said CSIS spokeswoman Barbara Campion.

Greg Stringham, vice-president of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers, said the threat is similar to a posting about a year ago, when an al-Qaeda-affiliated Internet blog called on Canadian and U.S. jihadists to attack an Alaskan oil pipeline.

The new posting is "not singling out Canada, it specifically mentions Canada, but along with some other countries that are suppliers to the U.S," he said.

"It's not the first time that it's happened and we have no credible threat to substantiate it ... but still we are taking it seriously and we've informed all of our members and contacts about that -- especially those with critical infrastructure -- to pay extra attention and be vigilant."

Experts have long considered the U.S. dependence on foreign oil -- and al-Qaeda's evolving strategy to attempt to deny the U.S. access to its major oil suppliers -- as the country's Achilles heel.

A major supply disruption would send energy prices soaring. Had the Abqaiq attack been successful -- guards fired on cars driven by the bombers, detonating the explosives inside -- some experts say oil prices would have likely broken all records. A catastrophic hit could bring transportation and other parts of the U.S. and world economies to a standstill.

"We should strike petroleum interests in all areas which supply the United States, and not only in the Middle East, because the target is to stop its imports or decrease it by all means," says the article, authenticated by security experts as coming from the Saudi al-Qaeda arm.

Tom Quiggan, a senior fellow at the Centre of Excellence for National Security, at Singapore's Nanyang Technological University, cautioned yesterday: "We should not be overly concerned at this exact moment. Al-Qaeda is an organization has been severely weakened."

Even so, "Sawt al-Jihad has correctly analysed the oil-importing situation of the United States and concluded that it is not just Middle Eastern suppliers that are important," he said.

The posting appears to be "intended to send a message to its followers that they should consider a wider set of targets than just those in the Middle East."

It also is "an operational suggestion to the 'homegrown jihadists' and independent groups that follow the inspiration message of al-Qaeda. To them, it outlines a suggested list of potential new targets. Canada is at the top of that list."

Since 2000, he said, Canada's proven oil reserves have risen from about five billion barrels of oil to more than 180 billion barrels. That puts Canada in the No. 2 position as an oil reserve country, second only to Saudi Arabia and significantly ahead of other states such as Iraq, Kuwait or Iran.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has called attention to the growing role of his home province of Alberta by telling international audiences that Canada is emerging as an "energy superpower" with the sole politically stable source of growing oil production on the planet.

Industry installations in Alberta include airport tower-like control rooms for pipelines that deliver about 15 per cent of the natural gas and 10 per cent of the oil consumed in the U.S. as well as most Canadian supplies.

Martin Rudner, director of Carleton University's Canadian Centre of Intelligence and Security Studies, characterized the posting as "very serious" and said "the highest levels in our security and intelligence community," have been aware of it since Friday.

He said al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is "a bunch of guys with capability and intent. I would ramp up my awareness, all the kinds of things which intelligence and law enforcement agencies are supposed to do, I would ramp up."

Because the Sawt al-Jihad article contains operational details of the Abqaiq attack, the first major attack on a Saudi oil facility and one that the groups hails as a success, Mr. Rudner believes the message is intended as a call-to-arms rather than a piece of propaganda aimed at the West.

"They're speaking to their foot soldiers and to their planners. They're saying, 'We were successful (in Abqaiq), what have we got to learn to be more successful? And then you say, 'Here's Canada, Mexico and Venezuela.' That's a signal -- 'What we did Abqaiq we could do there'."

He said a successful attack against Canadian supplies and a resulting disruption of American oil and gas would also "damage the most important bilateral trade connection in the infidel world. To interrupt this would be not only of economic significance, but of symbolic significance."

Kyle Keith, director of operations for the Canadian Energy Pipeline Association, said companies have several emergency programs in place.

"The fact that this information is making the rounds and we're sharing it shows our security programs are working," he said.

"Unfortunately the nature is your programs are a bit reactive, but so far it looks like things are working as they should -- the sharing of information and the heightened awareness."

The Saudi group also is believed to have been responsible for a May 2004 incident in which attackers stormed the offices of a Houston-based oil company in the western Saudi oil hub of Yanbu. An ensuring gun battle killed six Westerners, a Saudi and the militants. Several weeks later, gunmen believed to belong to the group stormed oil company compounds in Khobar, on the eastern coast, and took hostages in a siege that killed 22 people, 19 of them foreigners.

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To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (21034)2/14/2007 10:24:08 AM
From: Scoobah
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With allthe Hezbollanians and other PLO players long set up in Canada, our northern neighbor should be very worried about this.

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To: Scoobah who wrote (21035)2/14/2007 11:07:09 AM
From: Ichy Smith
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I can hardly wait for the "Canadian" reaction..... They wouldn't do that to us if we didn't sell oil to the US. After all we are Canadians, everybody likes Canadians..... Poor delusional left wing dolts.

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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (21031)2/14/2007 12:50:13 PM
From: Richnorth
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If you would hit the brakes, put on your thinking cap and think about it analytically, the subject is indeed related to the war on terror!

Hint: The Fed Reserve enables production of horrendous amounts of cash out of thin air. Running the printing presses is as easy as pie! Easy availability of money encourages Uncle Sam to go to war at the drop of a hat and with gay abandon!

Remember what Cheney said? "The deficit doesn't matter!"
What he apparently did not say but is most likely on his mind,

"Those folks who fund our debt --- the Chinese, Indians, Japanese and Taiwanese and Arabs --- by taking our paper dollars are very useful idiots. Ha! Ha! Ha! They may think they'd have the power to screw us sooner or later. But wait till they find out it is they who'd be screwed in the end holding bags full of worthless greenbacks! LMAO!" Perhaps that explains, in part, the perpetual smirk on Cheney's face.

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To: Richnorth who wrote (21037)2/14/2007 12:58:22 PM
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let's say "our" paper dollars? live in canada, right?? who cares what you think?

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