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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (90536)5/23/2012 12:34:54 PM
From: skinowski1 Recommendation   of 100727
 
Re: "Grexit"

It could be the other way around - that Greece staying in the EU is bearish pressure, and its exit may, counterintuitively, trigger a rally. For the moment, I have no idea how this could be traded either way, but watching with interest.

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To: John Vosilla who wrote (90424)5/23/2012 1:06:43 PM
From: elmatador   of 100727
 
Cost of living comparison between selected cities:




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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (90527)5/23/2012 2:51:22 PM
From: elmatador5 Recommendations   of 100727
 
As the struggle to preserve the euro goes on, two worrying trends are emerging. One is the migration of able and energetic young people away from the poorer eurozone countries. The other is the increasing belief that, since the euro is shaky, it is better to have your deposits in German banks than in those of the weaker countries.

We must break up the failing euro

By Martin Jacomb

As the struggle to preserve the euro goes on, two worrying trends are emerging. One is the migration of able and energetic young people away from the poorer eurozone countries. The other is the increasing belief that, since the euro is shaky, it is better to have your deposits in German banks than in those of the weaker countries.

Unless addressed at once, both these developments may become irreversible – but the second is the more urgent. The domestic banks of weaker eurozone members are losing deposits. The pontifications of European leaders have given the impression that Greece may revert to a new national currency. Depositors who envisage their euro deposits being converted into devalued new drachma are withdrawing them and keeping the money in euro notes (a liability of the European Central Bank) or in deposits with German banks. It amounts to a slow run on Greek banks.This is greatly weakening the banks from which the money is withdrawn and lessens any chance of recovery in that economy. It may already be too late to alleviate the position in Greece, but this trend may develop in other weak eurozone countries.

Once a bank run starts to develop, it is already too late to take action. So now is the time to act, to ensure that a euro deposited with any sound bank will be worth the same as one with a bank domiciled in a strong country. Otherwise the banking sectors of the weaker countries may be seriously damaged.

Given Germany’s understandable reluctance to underwrite the euro system without limit, it is difficult to do this. But unless a way is found, the situation may get a whole lot worse without much warning.

One way would be to accept that the opportunity to “save the euro” has been lost and for all 17 members to decide at once to revert to national currencies. The chance of differentiating between eurozone countries, weak and strong, has been lost. This is how it could be done.

There must be no advance warning. Experience shows that currency break ups, like devaluations, have to be handled so as to avoid anticipatory speculative activity. The essential requirement is a single, unequivocal decision to revert to national currencies, reached confidentially by all 17 governments and announced without prior notice.

The decision would be that all obligations and rights denominated in euros would be converted legally into rights and obligations denominated in new national currencies, with each euro henceforth to be divided into the
17 national currencies in the proportions in which member states hold capital in the ECB. All 17 governments would undertake to legislate to confirm this.

The conversion would apply not only to notes, bank deposits and loans, but also to bonds, including sovereign bonds, and to commercial contractual rights. There would be no difference between the worth of a euro deposit with a German bank and one with a Greek bank. Legal disputes about commercial obligations would mostly be avoided.

In theory, the aggregated values of the fractions of each euro should be the same as the value of the euro itself, but in practice there would be a discount from the previously prevailing value because of the need to unwind the agglomeration of national currencies. The holders of what were euros would want to sell the fractions they did not want and in exchange buy the fractions sold by others, so that all would end up holding the currency they wanted.

There would be a five-day bank holiday to enable foreign exchange markets to prepare.

Euro notes would continue to circulate until the new national currency notes were available. It would not be possible to unwind the euro notes while they were in circulation. But where quantities of notes are held, they could be deposited with a bank to effect the exchanges desired.

The advantage of the plan outlined above is certainty, combined with only limited dislocation. Although the new Deutschmark would be in demand and the new drachma would no doubt attract a discount, there is no reason to suppose that buyers or sellers would behave irrationally. Sensible values would quickly emerge; these currency variations are what is needed anyway in order to achieve competitiveness. Confidence would soon start to reappear.


The writer is chairman of Share plc and former chancellor of the University of Buckingham

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To: elmatador who wrote (90532)5/23/2012 3:32:45 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu   of 100727
 
true - US: New Jersey is the latest state having budget as..
23-May-2012
US: New Jersey is the latest state having budget problems as an analysis released today says FY12 revenue is 1.7% less than Feb's ests and FY13 is 0.5% less. See njleg.state.nj.us 

With the growth still a close a billion short from balancing the budget - and this is NJ, one of the richest states in the US

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (90540)5/23/2012 3:39:23 PM
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EU's Van Rompuy: Meeting Preparing Ground For Firm Decisions In June
23-May-2012
BRUSSELS (Dow Jones)--European Council President Herman Van Rompuy said Wednesday's informal heads of government summit was aimed at setting out a path for "firm decisions" on measures to boost growth at next month's European Union summit.
In brief televised remarks to kick off Wednesday's discussions, Van Rompuy said "our discussions tonight should be focused and frank.
"We are preparing the ground for firm decisions in June, five weeks from now," he said.
-By Laurence Norman

EU Parliament Head: Not Right Germany Borrows At Zero, Others Pay 6%
23-May-2012
BRUSSELS (Dow Jones)--European Parliament chief Martin Schulz said Wednesday the fact that Germany is paying zero interest on its debt while others borrow at 6% makes a strong case for why euro-zone bonds are needed.
"I just got the news that Germany today placed a two-year bond for EUR4.6 billion on financial markets for 0.0%. Other states in Europe have to pay 6%. This imbalance destroys the European Union," he told reporters on his way into a European Union leaders' summit.
Schulz, a German from the Social Democrats' center-left group said "that's why the debate on euro bonds is a debate on how we want to survive in this union. It can't be that some really pay negative interest ... and others are drowning under the pressure of speculation."
-By Gabriele Steinhauser

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To: elmatador who wrote (90533)5/23/2012 3:42:27 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu1 Recommendation   of 100727
 
That is why they have full employment and every one is bashing Germany

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (90542)5/23/2012 3:45:15 PM
From: elmatador   of 100727
 
Germans saw the writing on the wall and repositioned themselves.

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To: elmatador who wrote (90539)5/23/2012 3:50:20 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu4 Recommendations   of 100727
 
This is not a workable solution and EURO bonds are also not a solution.

The solution is to free labor markets and introduce full flexibility to fire or hire people with an harmonized pension age at 67 years.

All and similar changes should be made by decree, and wildcat strikes and riots should be a criminal offence punishable with jail time and forced labor on EU infrastructure project.

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (90544)5/23/2012 3:51:20 PM
From: Snowshoe   of 100727
 
Bravo!!!

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To: skinowski who wrote (90537)5/23/2012 4:33:01 PM
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Capital is leaving Europe. There are two stories regarding capital flows and the eurozone: flows between member states, and flows to and from the eurozone as a whole.

Posted by Simon Hinrichsen on May 23 17:51.


There are two stories regarding capital flows and the eurozone: flows between member states, and flows to and from the eurozone as a whole.

We’ll ignore the flows into Germany and away from Italy for a moment. Although only for a moment, because the intra-euro capital flows actually appear in the capital flows to and from the eurozone, if only indirectly.

So it is worth noting new capital flow data from March, which worsened considerably, via a missive from Nomura analysts on Wednesday:

Portfolio investments saw a net outflow of €35bn (compared with February net inflows of €19bn). As for inflows into the eurozone, demand for debt instruments was weak (€2bn), while eurozone equities saw better demand (€22bn), probably helped by relatively strong risk sentiment in March. Perhaps more interestingly, the main reason behind the negative overall portfolio flows was the activity of eurozone investors, who bought €60bn of foreign assets, mainly bonds and money market instruments. This is the largest foreign investments in almost 1.5 years.



Not good news — and Nomura reckons there’s no reason to suppose this trend will reverse anytime soon. But let’s move on now to the subject of balance of payments accounting, courtesy of SocGen:

In balance of payments accounting, in the absence of fx intervention, any decline (increase) in net inflows of direct and portfolio investment must be offset by an improvement (deterioration) in the current account balance or by a decline (increase) in borrowing from the rest of the world. It follows that a significant deterioration in direct and portfolio inflows either requires a marked contraction in domestic demand (i.e. an improvement in the current-account balance via a fall in imports) or a currency devaluation (allowing an improvement in the current-account balance via a rise in exports and a fall in imports)

So the eurozone, as a whole, has few easy options if net outflows of capital continue: less borrowing, less imports, more exports, or a depreciating currency.

However, we all know that the real “flight” that is happening here is the flight from the periphery, and not from the core. So pan-eurozone metrics like these offer us an inadequate picture of a two-tier economy.

Instead, to get a look at the real flight of capital, it might be worth cautiously revisiting TARGET2, as it offers a view into the flow of capital inside the eurozone (charts via JP Morgan):



The picture is suddenly very clear indeed.

This entry was posted by Simon Hinrichsen on Wednesday, May 23rd, 2012 at 17:51 and is filed under Capital markets. Tagged with eurozone, Target2. Edit this entry.

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