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To: ChanceIs who wrote (106505)8/4/2008 3:46:57 PM
From: Kayaker   of 178675
 
[[ I smell the son of Amaranth. I really do. ]]

Might well happen. Must be a few hedge funds out there stuck betting heavily (long) on oil and NG, and in major pain.

I'm 100% cash and have been waiting for an opportunity to buy. Here it is, and the dang Canadian markets are closed. This better not be the capitulation low for energy stocks!

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From: Q88/4/2008 3:52:32 PM
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Dabum... great meeting you today! Thanks for your trading ideas as well. Right after you left I placed the following trade: $2,500 in 9 minutes.



MEE - MASSEY ENERGY COMPANY

Action Qty Price Timing Time & Date(ET)

Buy 3,000 Limit or Better 64.63 Day Only 3:40 pm 08/04/2008 ----- -----

Bought 3,000 64.60 Settles on 08/07/2008 3:40 pm 08/04/2008 ----- -----


Status: CLOSED - Filled Div. Reinv: No Order #: 78925731

Sell 3,000 Limit 65.44 Day Only 3:48 pm 08/04/2008 ----- -----

Sold 100 65.44 Settles on 08/07/2008 3:48 pm 08/04/2008 ----- -----

Sold 2,900 65.44 Settles on 08/07/2008 3:49 pm 08/04/2008 ----- -----


Status: CLOSED - Filled Order #: 78931054

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To: Kayaker who wrote (106510)8/4/2008 3:52:57 PM
From: The Jack of Hearts   of 178675
 
You can still buy the interlisteds SU, PWE etc etc..

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To: nrg_crisis who wrote (106498)8/4/2008 3:54:28 PM
From: elmatador   of 178675
 
This qualifies as windfall: 1 Billion in net profit each week or every 7 days. Wow. If only the U.S. government owned oil.

SHELL pocketed $11.56 billion in profits from $131.42 billion.

$1 Billion in net profit each week or every 7 days. Wow. If only the U.S. government owned oil.

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To: James W. Riley who wrote (106488)8/4/2008 3:57:42 PM
From: kertjeen   of 178675
 
added a little to bzp also and pot

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To: profile_14 who wrote (106461)8/4/2008 3:59:58 PM
From: energyplay1 Recommendation   of 178675
 
I like PWE a lot, but I think we are in a MAJOR BEAR market for energy.


I have started buying DUG, and ultra short oil fund, to hedge my reaming positions, which are a few oils and Royalty trusts. That and cash. I am late with this, and my portfolios are down 20+% from May.

By hedging, I think I can hold some royalty trusts, and collect the distributions, with the DUG making up some of the losses.
That is only a partial hedge, and not perfect, so I am going to more cash also.


I think almost every stock, including royalty trusts, goes down because of macro economic factors that don't have much to do with PWE, but have to do with the availability of money and how scarred people are.

I don't want to try to call a bottom. I will try to wait until we see energy stocks heading up again.

That could be 6 months or 3 years.

You make the key point - no stock is getting a reprieve - it does not matter what the distribution level is (PWE is at 14%), what assets they have, or how much oil they have found (like BZP).

I think we are in a big time bear market for energy, and everything else - gold, metals, consumer goods, etc. and I don't want to fight this tidal wave.

I will let the Royalty distributions go to cash, and buy later.

Look at your own situation, including taxes. If you have some PWE from a low basis selling could cause a big tax bill. You may be able to designate to your broker which shares get sold.

If you have a multi-year time horizon, like Tommaso or other people on the Canadian royalty trust thread, you might just wait this out with most of your shares. My time horizon is only about 1 year, so I felt I needed to hedge, and I bought some DUG.

This is just what I am doing, not advice, of course.

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To: Kayaker who wrote (106510)8/4/2008 4:00:17 PM
From: ChanceIs1 Recommendation   of 178675
 
>>>This better not be the capitulation low for energy stocks!<<<

I have done only a little checking, but where I have, I have not seen large volume today. We had much larger volumes last week. If it were capitulation, then I would expect to see great volumes today. Today seems to me to be the worst down day. Again I would need to check that.

It could be the last whimper of the weak handed retail holders throwing in their cards. It would explain the somewhat low volume sell-off. I have sympathy for them. Probably didn't sleep all weekend. I was one once.

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To: The Jack of Hearts who wrote (106512)8/4/2008 4:00:20 PM
From: Kayaker1 Recommendation   of 178675
 
[[ You can still buy the interlisteds SU, PWE etc etc.. ]]

I know I can buy them in US dollars and then have them "journaled" over to my CDN dollar accounts. But first, I'd have to buy American Peso Dollars!


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To: ChanceIs who wrote (106508)8/4/2008 4:02:36 PM
From: elmatador   of 178675
 
Oil fall is a tax cut on every person in the planet, since everybody uses oil derivatives. Therefore it is healthy to go down so as to people have money left in their pockets to buy other stuff.

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From: Dennis Roth8/4/2008 4:02:41 PM
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OFS Weekly Statistics: Blame it on Rio: Update on Santos Basin.
In file-14.pdf
bigfileswapper.com 


Independent Refiners: Weekly Margin Summary: Crude declines slows while refining margins still mixed
In file-13.pdf
bigfileswapper.com 

Both from Credit Suisee dated 04 August 2008

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