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To: tejek who wrote (558087)4/1/2010 2:20:17 PM
From: HPilot   of 717224
 
I guess its never dawned on your that they know something about the law that you don't.

Liberal Law professors don't known anything past PC.

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To: tejek who wrote (558075)4/1/2010 2:22:32 PM
From: HPilot3 Recommendations   of 717224
 
Waxman is starting on that trip by grilling the CEO's. Their companies well be blamed for intentionally driving up health care costs. The government will never be wrong again. The Soviet union was never wrong till after it's collapse.

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To: HPilot who wrote (558088)4/1/2010 2:24:02 PM
From: HPilot   of 717224
 
Actually I take that back. The law professors may be right.

After a few conservative SCOTUS judges are killed off.

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To: i-node who wrote (558066)4/1/2010 2:26:30 PM
From: Joe NYC   of 717224
 
If our health care is less costly it is going to also be lower quality.

To some extent (not completely), health care is like education. Money buys you only so much. A lot of money is spent on unproductive things. Good example is liability insurance, procedure to avoid potential liabilities.

Capital investment will be curtailed and that means longer lines and more traveling and inconvenience for patients.

True, but there is the other side of the coin.

You may have a hospital not performing certain procedure. There may be $5 million worth of business in the area for procedure. Capital investment can be made to offer it. But say you need $10 million of revenue to recoup it in various ways, some less savory than others. So yeah, there is a price for convenience...

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To: tejek who wrote (558070)4/1/2010 2:30:28 PM
From: Joe NYC5 Recommendations   of 717224
 
Most of your posts are one line ad-hom attacks. If you don't think a post is worth a reply, instead of 1 line ad-hom, just don't reply...

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From: bentway4/1/2010 2:32:59 PM
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No Shortcuts When Military Moves a War

By STEPHEN FARRELL and ELISABETH BUMILLER
nytimes.com 


JOINT BASE BALAD, Iraq — Early this year a “fob in a box” — military slang for 80 shipping containers with all the tents, showers and construction material needed to set up a remote forward operating base — was put on trucks here for the trip from one war to another.

Left over and never used in Iraq, the fob rumbled north to Turkey, east through Georgia and Azerbaijan, by ship across the Caspian Sea to Kazakhstan, then south on the old Soviet rail lines of Uzbekistan into northern Afghanistan. There — the end of a seven-nation, 2,300-mile, two-and-a-half-month odyssey — it was assembled just weeks ago as home for several hundred of the thousands of American forces entering the country.

In trying to speed 30,000 reinforcements into Afghanistan while reducing American forces in Iraq by 50,000, American commanders are orchestrating one of the largest movements of troops and matériel since World War II. Military officials say that transporting so many people and billions of dollars’ worth of equipment, weapons, housing, fuel and food in and out of both countries between now and an August deadline is as critical and difficult as what is occurring on the battlefield.

Military officials, who called the start of the five-month logistics operation “March Madness,” say it is like trying to squeeze a basketball through a narrow pipe, particularly the supply route through the Khyber Pass linking Pakistan and Afghanistan.

So many convoys loaded with American supplies came under insurgent attack in Pakistan last year that the United States military now tags each truck with a GPS device and keeps 24-hour watch by video feed at a military base in the United States. Last year the Taliban blew up a bridge near the pass, temporarily suspending the convoys.

“Hannibal trying to move over the Alps had a tremendous logistics burden, but it was nothing like the complexity we are dealing with now,” said Lt. Gen. William G. Webster, the commander of the United States Third Army, using one of the extravagant historical parallels that commanders have deployed for the occasion. He spoke at a military base in the Kuwaiti desert before a vast sandscape upon which were armored trucks that had been driven out of Iraq and were waiting to be junked, sent home or taken on to Kabul, Afghanistan.

The general is not moving elephants, but the scale and intricacy of the operation are staggering. The military says there are 3.1 million pieces of equipment in Iraq, from tanks to coffee makers, two-thirds of which are to leave the country. Of that, about half will go on to Afghanistan, where there are already severe strains on the system.

Overcrowding at Bagram Air Base, the military’s main flight hub in Afghanistan, is so severe that beds are at a premium and troops are jammed into tents alongside runways. Cargo planes, bombers, jet fighters, helicopters and drones are stacked up in the skies, waiting to land.

All lethal supplies — weapons, armored trucks, eight-wheeled Stryker troop carriers — come in by air to avoid attacks, but everything else goes by sea and land. The standard route from Iraq to Afghanistan is south from Baghdad and down through Kuwait, by ship through the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz to Karachi, Pakistan, then overland once again. The “fob in a box” went on an experimental and potentially less expensive journey through Turkey to link up with a new northern route through Central Asia, which was opened last year for supplies going to Afghanistan from Europe and the United States as an alternative to the risky trip through Pakistan.

Both routes circle Iran, by far the most direct way to get from Baghdad to Kabul, but off limits because of the country’s hostile relationship with the United States. “These are the cards that we’re dealt,” said Gen. Duncan J. McNabb, who oversees all military logistics as the leader of the United States Transportation Command at Scott Air Force Base, Ill.

Nonlethal supplies flowing into Afghanistan include cement, lumber, blast barriers, septic tanks and rubberized matting, all to expand space at airfields and double, to 40, the number of forward operating bases in a country that has an infrastructure closer to the 14th century than the 21st.

Gen. David H. Petraeus of the United States Central Command, in another grand historical parallel, recently called the construction under way “the largest building boom in Afghanistan since Alexander built Kandahar,” a reference to the conqueror of Afghanistan in the fourth century B.C.

Food shipments alone are enough to feed an army. The Defense Logistics Agency, which provides meals for 415,000 troops, contractors and American civilians each day in both wars, shipped 1.1 million frozen hamburger patties to Afghanistan in March alone, compared with 663,000 burgers in March 2009. The agency also supplied 27 million gallons of fuel to forces in Afghanistan this month, compared with 15 million gallons a year ago.

Commanders say that their chief worry is that the equipment and supplies will not arrive in sync with the troops. Their biggest enemy, they say, is the short time between now and August, the deadline set in separate plans for each war.

Early last year, President Obama and military commanders agreed on a withdrawal plan to reduce United States forces in Iraq to 50,000 by Aug. 31 ( 97,000 United States troops are there now), with all American forces out by 2011. Late last year, he pushed commanders to speed up the infusion of new troops into Afghanistan — military planners had originally said it would take 18 months — so that 30,000 new troops would get there by August. So far, about 6,000 of those reinforcements have arrived. Once they all get there, there will be close to 100,000 United States troops in Afghanistan.

“There is a great sense of urgency in getting in and getting effective,” said Vice Adm. Alan S. Thompson, the director of the Defense Logistics Agency. “The administration is concerned about being able to show results quickly.” There are obvious strains, he said, but “I think it’s doable.”

In the meantime, General McNabb, in yet another reference to Alexander the Great, said that when he took over the transportation command in 2008, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates reminded him of the well-known words attributed to the famous conqueror: “My logisticians are a humorless lot; they know if my campaign fails they are the first ones I will slay.”

Mr. Gates had his own words of advice. “He just said, ‘Hey, it’s a tough job, better figure it out,’ ” General McNabb said.

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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (558045)4/1/2010 2:33:24 PM
From: tejek   of 717224
 
You see, Ten, Rs don't really care about the people.....and that has been and will continue to be their undoing.

Texas will cover 6.1 million uninsured. Boehner outraged

by kos
Thu Apr 01, 2010 at 09:16:03 AM PDT
John Boehner tweets:




That links to this article at the Dallas Morning News, and he gets his figure from the nut graf:

Health and Human Services Commission chief Tom Suehs presented lawmakers Wednesday with an estimate of $27 billion over a decade to expand health insurance coverage. It had been about $24 billion.

But apparently, our favorite Orange-American didn't read further into the article:

Suehs testified that in the decade following 2014, about 2.1 million Texans will begin to be added to Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program. About $5.5 billion of the estimate involves paying doctors and other primary care providers more, so they'll see Medicaid and CHIP patients.

So Boehner is apparently outraged that children are getting covered, that doctors are getter paid better so they take more CHIP and Medicaid patients, and that that Texas' 6.1 million unemployed uninsured (most in the nation) will have coverage. Got it.

But what about those costs? Well, not only are they (possibly inflated) estimates from a Republican bureaucrat trying to gin up outrage and opposition to the new law, but...


Sen. Royce West, D-Dallas, criticized Suehs for disregarding the fact that under the federal overhaul, millions more Texans will be covered – either in government programs or by private insurance. That will relieve the need for the state to spend tobacco settlement money and collect higher fines on drivers to pay for the uninsured and trauma care, he said.

Suehs replied: "Very valid point. ... In some of the programs, there are substantial savings." He promised to produce estimates of those savings.


Hmmm, so it turns out that the health care law will actually SAVE the state money in other programs, lessening its budgetary impact? Huh!


But if you really want to talk about costs...

From 2000 to 2009, under Rick Perry’s one-party Republican rule, Texans’ health insurance premiums have risen 91.6%. While Texans paid the price for Perry policies that profited the insurance companies, benefits were cut and the Children’s Health Insurance Plan was gutted.

Now, as Governor of the state with the highest rate of uninsured people in the nation, Perry is fighting against health insurance reform – choosing to protect the obscene profits of big insurance companies instead of more than 24,000 Texans who lose their health care coverage every month.


I can see why Boehner would be outraged. He fought hard to prevent those 6.1 million Texans from receiving health care coverage, and tried his best to protect the insurance industry to double their rates over Perry's nine-year term.

The cost of health care is not what angers Boehner. It's that everyone now has access to it.

Of course, if Republicans are truly concerned about the cost of insuring people, then he can join progressive Democrats in seeking a public option or Medicare For All option that will offer true competition and keep insurance costs down.

I won't hold my breath.

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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (558054)4/1/2010 2:35:32 PM
From: longnshort   of 717224
 
like that other dem congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee who said after the Martian rover landed on MARS(that's for ted's sake) "why don't we drive it over to where the astronauts planted that flag"

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To: Joe NYC who wrote (558092)4/1/2010 2:35:44 PM
From: tejek   of 717224
 
Here's a tangible response to your claims:

Message 26430527

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To: HPilot who wrote (558089)4/1/2010 2:36:50 PM
From: tejek   of 717224
 
How are those jet planes for congress doing? You know.......the ones GA congressmen worked so hard to get and blow off more money.

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