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To: Racey_Gracey who wrote (40989)4/4/2000 9:29:00 AM
From: TigerPaw
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Are you sure you live in the same country as I do?
I don't know, from the sound of it I hope not. I live in the greatest country on the planet run by capable leaders who have kept the forces of darkness in check.
TP

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To: Andy Thomas who wrote (41044)4/4/2000 9:43:00 AM
From: Captain Jack
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Andy-- So far I have had no problems with McAfee on DELL machines, Norton on Micron, or Norton Corporate on CPQ. I have had some minor problems with Win 98 and RealNetworks but nothing that was major. However putting all that plus downloads into any machine adds to the possibility of some incompatability at times..

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To: puborectalis who wrote (41041)4/4/2000 9:44:00 AM
From: lawdog
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Market doesn't think so.

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To: rudedog who wrote (40877)4/4/2000 9:44:00 AM
From: PMS Witch
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Off topic --- nicknames ...

About a year or so ago, some nutball posted a thread participant's address and telephone number along with some thinly disguised threats. I, and many others, immediately assumed disguised identities. The world is full of nuts and they're multiplying. Only a fool would ignore the dangers and leave themselves exposed.

Cheers, PW.

P.S. I've even been threatened with court action over my SI profile by some kook who took it seriously.

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To: rudedog who wrote (40897)4/4/2000 9:45:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas
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You're a VAP (value-added poster).

FWIW
Andy

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (40921)4/4/2000 10:02:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas
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>>DR-DOS, Word-Perfect, Paradox, Borland Compilers and Stacker to name a few.<<

DR-DOS... how's the Caldera lawsuit going?

WP, Paradox... too late to market with windows versions... didn't take win3.0 seriously and got clobbered by about win 3.1 or thereabouts.

Borland Compilers... still in business as Inprise, working to put Delphi on Linux... very kewl... best compilers I've used... used to use quick c editor with turbo assembler from command line in win3.0.

Stacker was put out of business by cheap, large hard drives... also dbl/drvspace was simply more elegant. That lawsuit was much ado about nothing.

To me the real issue here is the application of copyright laws. MSFT has their own ideas about this and in all of the hubbub surrounding the proceedings, no one has much discussed the idea of intellectual property.

I'm fairly convinced in any case that Asia will never be a major market for commercial software, because why would they buy something they could just copy? The Chinese Red Army is in the business of counterfeiting. That won't stop any time soon.

I'm of the opinion in any event that iron-grip control from the developer's keyboard to my hard drive is a bad thing... I should be free to copy the media. MSFT should make a living off of services instead of royalties, but that would really ruin their scheme wouldn't it?


I really think the world would be a better place if anyone could copy any media and the originator of "intellectual property" could get a cut out of any "pirate's" duplication and resale of said property. Of course that makes me a communist and my ideas are dangerous to the very foundations of western civilization, no?

I have no problem with hardware and/or software copy-protection schemes. What I have a problem with is a legal system which tries to enforce copy protection.

This whole DOJ case is once again, much ado about nothing... two sides discussing issues which are of little or no relevance to the world at large...


FWIW
Andy

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To: puborectalis who wrote (41032)4/4/2000 10:02:00 AM
From: Joseph Pareti
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i don't think they should yield too much to the inquisitors
Message 13344378

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To: Andrew Fenic who wrote (40785)4/4/2000 10:03:00 AM
From: Jason Ellis
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Okay, here are the facts from CNN if you watch it last night:

1) In the speech from Ballmer & Gates, basically, they said nothing, Ballmer in his glorious speech, all he mentioned is "innovation....", and with Gates: "Improve people's life..." I was hoping they have something positive to contribute.

2) The CNN poll shows 61% agree w/ Judge Jackson decision.

So, since there was that much beating to MSFT yesterday, and all Gates say in his defence is "improving people's life", that's very dispointing for shareholder stock value, isn't it? How weak of a defense can you get? I mean, if the owner of the company can't say anything concrete after that much beating, that's like someone punch you off to the ground and all you say is "Gee...now I have to dryclean my shirt".

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To: Dave Ruff who wrote (40923)4/4/2000 10:03:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas
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>>Regarding the DOJ...when is the last time you saw this administration do anything right??
<<

If nothing else, we can all expect the DOJ to "do the wrong thing." They always do.

FWIW
Andy

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (41029)4/4/2000 10:03:00 AM
From: rudedog
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Ron - Parish has been pushing this nonsense for a long time - unfortunately, there ARE NO GAAP accounting rules which cover current use of ESOP - a major loophole IMO, but still, that's the rule today. The few regulations regarding use of retired treasury stock to fulfill ESOP, or the use of Black-Scholes models to predict the value of outstanding options, don't come close to covering the real situation.

In any event, virtually every high tech company, from the lowliest internet startup all the way up to DELL, CPQ, Intel and MSFT, use the same techniques. Perhaps there has actually been no tech profit ever, and all of these companies built their market caps on accounting tricks.

Or maybe Parish is full of Crap. I think actually that Parish knows full well that his stuff is nonsense, but it makes good reading for people who don't know much about accounting, and keeps the Parish name floating around. Every few months a weary pilgrim stumbles into the Parish oasis, and the half-baked positions get another round of attention.

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