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To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (24684)4/14/2003 6:17:31 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander   of 33116
 
Well, better reveal some of the inspiration

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as well as the regular Yo-hansson, from up there in the north were
common sense is kind of important

audio.cdbaby.com 

not to forget the premature wet dreams of Issas, atlthoug he is so busy
practicing and regrouping his angle outside the tent.

redhotjazz.com 

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To: elmatador who wrote (24648)4/14/2003 7:22:37 PM
From: Eric L   of 33116
 
Ericssson EDGE for the Netherlands (Telfort was O2)

In the coming years the group will focus on building out its GSM network with the next-generation EDGE technology, working closely still with equipment supplier Ericsson on any new technological or commercial developments, the CEO said.

>> O2 Netherlands To Focus On Existing Technologies; Renamed Telfort

AFX.COM
April 14, 2003
Amsterdam

Greenfield Capital Partners, the private equity group acquiring O2 Netherlands BV from mm02 PLC, said it will focus on the Dutch telecoms market and existing "proven" technologies, such as GSM, in developing the newly independent company.

O2 will change its name back to Telfort, the company's name when it was first launched in 1997 in the Netherlands in a joint venture between BT Group PLC and the Dutch Railways, O2 Netherlands CEO Ton aan de Stegge told a news conference.

Greenfield, which also owns the Dutch fixed-line operator Enertel, plans to focus Telfort on the Dutch market, with no plans to expand to other countries, according to Greenfield director Pieter Bolhuis. Greenfield has set aside an unspecified amount for further investment at Telfort, Bolhuis said.

Much of the future financing is expected to come from cash flow, as the company recently turned EBITDA positive. O2 Netherlands' debt, estimated at almost 200 mln eur, will stay with mm02, the CEO said.

Telfort has shelved its plans to roll out a UMTS network in the Netherlands, given that the business case for UMTS services is still unclear.

"UMTS still has to be proven and we have our questions," Aan de Stegge said.

"We are only going to invest in things which make money."

Under the terms of its UMTS licence, the company has no service obligation in the Netherlands until 2007.

In the coming years the group will focus on building out its GSM network with the next-generation EDGE technology, working closely still with equipment supplier Ericsson on any new technological or commercial developments, the CEO said.

Telfort will continue virtual network agreements with Debitel and Tele2, Aan de Stegge said.

The agreements have added about 200,000 clients to its direct subscriber base of about 1.25 mln.

Telfort expects to expand further in the wholesale market, which currently accounts for about 10 pct of sales, though working with Enertel, the wholesale fixed-line operator owned by Greenfield.

Telfort is also in talks with several "well-known" brands in the Netherlands interested in providing mobile services, the CEO said.

Companies such as Shell, Vendex KBB retail chain Hema and Scarlet Telecom have recently expressed interest in the mobile market, although the CEO declined to say with which parties Telfort is talking.

Greenfield has ambitions to further expand in the "undervalued" telecoms market, with "tens of milliosn of euros" set aside to form a "complete telecoms package" in the Netherlands, Bolhuis said.

The company is taking a 60 pct direct stake in Telfort, with the remaining 40 pct held by three financial parties and Enertel. Bolhuis declined to name the other investors, saying all parties are investing for the "long term" in Greenfield's "buy and build" strategy.

A public offering of shares in Telfort is currently not planned, he added. Greenfield started talks four to five weeks ago with mm02 on buying the Dutch unit, Bolhuis said.

The price had already dropped significantly from 200-500 mln eur when mm02 first started talks with a number of parties earlier in the year.

According to Aan de Stegge, the company opted for Greenfield because a merger with an existing operator would have resulted in the overlap of networks as well as negative consequences for personnel.

While the CEO hopes to avoid forced redundancies as a result of the Greenfield takeover, he expects total staff to drop to around 550 within a year from the current 750.

Further reorganisation details will be announced in in the coming weeks.

In the six months to Sept 30, O2 Netherlands had sales of 203 mln eur and an EBITDA loss of 14 mln eur.

The company competes for the number three position in the Dutch market with Orange and T-Online, with Vodafone and KPN market leaders.

Given that the company already formed international roaming agreements under the name Telfort, there is no cooperation planned with an international mobile operator, the CEO said. <<

- Eric -

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To: Nils Mork-Ulnes who started this subject4/14/2003 8:14:07 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander   of 33116
 
gallup.fi 

nokia.com 

snip-snap

nokia.com 

digevent.com 

Well, not to forget Issa, although he clearly has a slightly updated vaseline map

crazy.codetroop.com 

gearloose1.tripod.com 

and the open-symbian smile

my-communicator.com 

Trying, like the good reader, to connect dots

perverts.nl 

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To: carranza2 who wrote (24677)4/14/2003 8:30:26 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander   of 33116
 
Btw, watch out for your blood pressure and sharp objects, try to
learn how to withdraw in time.

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To: Nils Mork-Ulnes who started this subject4/14/2003 8:43:30 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander   of 33116
 
Washing the Wall Street, and one paper product, now that it is time to get
down to basics, once again

video.c-span.org:8080 

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To: Eric L who wrote (24678)4/14/2003 9:01:02 PM
From: Jim Mullens   of 33116
 
Eric, thanks for the prompt reply. I am somewhat disappointed that you are not so inclined to aid “the cause” by providing a list linking those 21 articles concerning Congressman Issa and the GSM/ CDMA debate. I did find references to a number of those articles in your many posts on the subject, but unfortunately not many contained links. We all know one of your many strong points is documentation. As you recall, “the cause” is something that should be of vital interest and benefit to you, I and all Qualcomm investors. As I understand, Qualcomm is one of your larger holdings, I had hoped that you would be able to assist further in this noble endeavor.

As you know, I found the larger issue to be a lack of accurate , and fair and balanced reporting as IMO all of the articles I read contained inaccuracies / omissions of vital facts concerning the issues raised by the Congressman, the GSMA press release response, and the barrage of articles (21) that followed. In addition to the inaccuracies and omissions, I find it curious that not one article even remotely supported the Congressman / CDMA.

You stated, “In my personal estimation many of the articles provided extremely "fair and balanced reporting of the salient issues." I don’t agree. Perhaps with a listing linking the 21 articles we will have a firm basis to document our opposing positions.

Hoping you will have a change of heart, old geezer jim

>>>>>
Your question to me re: “the cause”- and your gathering that it’s ”an effort "to educate the non-believers”. >>> It is more of an effort to educate the journalists by pointing out their inaccuracies and omissions regarding CDMA and Qualcomm with the hope that eventually we as investors will get fair and balanced reporting of the issues impacting our investments in the wireless industry.

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To: Jim Mullens who wrote (24690)4/14/2003 9:38:29 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander   of 33116
 
Don't you have a nearby wall,door or tent to smack your 21 articles on??

Try some Kellogg's Cornflakes if the urge continues.

Issa is anyway global marketing history as he did not use a little Kleenex
and some helping hands in the privacy of his office but felt and responded
to the urge to go public.

Not the first, not the last, as that sucking sound is heard.

However, there is something sexy about so freely and willingly stepping out of
that 2-term closet, but who knows what Hustler will come up with??

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To: Jim Mullens who wrote (24690)4/14/2003 9:54:29 PM
From: Eric L   of 33116
 
DISINFORMATION in Pursuit of a CAUSE.

Jim,

<< Eric, thanks for the prompt reply. I am somewhat disappointed that you are not so inclined to aid “the cause” by providing a list linking those 21 articles concerning Congressman Issa and the GSM/ CDMA debate. >>

[By the end of day tomorrow, 21 will be 30]

I'm disappointed that you are disappointed and I am having some difficulty even beginning to think why you wold even make such a request.

You have a "cause".

I am an investor.

<< I did find references to a number of those articles in your many posts on the subject, but unfortunately not many contained links. >>

Your nose is growing bigger than Pinocchio's, Jim. Look again, and STOP misrepresenting fact and promulgating DISINFORMATION.

Do not become a LIAR on top of being a QUALCOMM PUMPSTER who has 85% of his equity investments in Qualcomm and as a consequence spends an inordinate amount of time writing letters to whomever will or will not listen.

YOU are on the wrong thread to promulgate this horse puckey and donkey manure.

At your adavnced aged (similar to mine) you still can mature.

Grow up!

- Eric -

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To: Jim Mullens who wrote (24690)4/14/2003 9:58:17 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander   of 33116
 
Sorry, forgot the barn, the Garret, the water-closet, the woods, other resorts and the purified thread

mum.org 

Old habits, as well as the Issas are fascinating, as well as the Kleenex Thread.

< THE author of this work offers no apology for presenting it to the reading public, since the wide prevalence of the evils which it exposes is sufficient warrant for its publication. The subjects with which it deals are of vital consequence to the human race; and it is of the utmost importance that every effort should be made to dispel the gross ignorance which almost universally prevails, by the wide diffusion, in a proper manner, of information of the character contained in this volume. >

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To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (24691)4/14/2003 11:10:53 PM
From: Zed4   of 33116
 
ROTFLMAO! Shannon would have been proud of how you test the limits...

Re: that Giant sucking sound - found anything yet on Clinton's $200K duck mating study? was it based in San Diego?!? any quacks we know involved?

Cheers! Rob

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