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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (20624)3/3/2012 3:16:28 AM
From: frankw1900 of 23551
 
It seems that a game of chicken is being played here

In essence Greece has defaulted already.

The 3.2 billion CDS's are chicken feed. The country owes what, a 130 bn?

The game being played is not chicken, but a combination of hot potato and musical chairs. But in this case there is more than one potato being passed around. And it's musical chairs where some of the chairs are invisible, are being taken away more than one at a time and, maybe, sometimes, put back.

We know for sure the Greeks don't have any chairs and they do have hot potatoes.

Some of the bond holders have a hot potato but still have chairs. Others of them wrote off their bonds - no hot potato and still have a chair.

others wrote off their bonds - no potato - but their balance sheets are so bad their chairs are invisible and every time they have to sit down it's a sort of hold-your-breath experience.

The Greek potatoes are big, fat roasters and anyone holding them is burned severely. Of course the Greeks who deserve to hold one never even get to touch it. The 30 - 40% of Greeks who actually work and support all the others get to hold 'em.

The Greek "hot potatoes" are the prospect of two or three generations of astronomical unemployment, mass emigration, general misery and lots of violence not seen since the end of the 1940s while they pay off the Europeans. Maybe even a revolution - a real one with guns and lots of dead people.

They can of course give their hot potatoes to the Germans and French by defaulting straight up, going back to the Drachma, and going thru 3 - 5 years of huge discomfort while they reorganize and reform. Any rational person would say they should have done this a couple of years ago.




So why haven't they, and why might they not do so?

A lot Greeks thought joining the EU and Euro was a good idea because it would get the drachma out of the hands of the corrupt, degenerate political classes and impose some discipline on the banks and maybe, maybe they'd loan to folk other than their friends.... The prosperity thru welfare crowd saw all the social programs the French and Germans had, and thought it a good thing if Greece had such programs. Lots and lots of folk thought paying lower interest rates like Germans was a wonderful thing - cheap money.

But joining did not get rid of degenerate politicians. It did not remove the Ottoman-inherited web of corruption, patronage and tax evasion. Every law and regulation was and remained a rent seeking opportunity, (thus, the necessary, tax evasion). Starting and running a business remained an exercise in frustration. Protecting special interests stopped Greece from developing a modern economy.

But things were better! There was so much money raining down on Greece that ordinary folk could be bought off with prosperity through welfare - retirement at fifty, unending civil service positions, cheap medical care, and so forth. And it was a lot easier to borrow money even if it remained difficult to do anything useful with it.

So, now money is no longer raining from heaven; the country is more or less under administration by the EU; it doesn't have a legitimate government; 20% unemployment rate,(fifty percent for those under 30); exponentially increasing numbers of folk living in the streets; economic activity shrinking at an accelerating rate and constant violent demonstrations.

Money is dribbling in from the EU. Just enough to let the govt rollover its debt and get by with running expenses and it's contingent on “structural reforms”: Firing scads of civil servants, lowering minimum wage, cutting welfare and subsidies, removing impediments to business etc. And of course the govt is squirming and wiggling and trying to do as little of that as possible. And this is why:

I saw a very interesting interview with a Greek businessman who said, “I'll make out like a bandit if Greece defaults. I'll be paying 10 cents on the dollar. But it will be horrible. Just like it was with the drachma before, because it's the same people.”

Unfortunately the reporter didn't push at this point but an illustration I picked up from Ekathimerini explains it well. Its been forty years since a new trucking company was established in Greece. The running joke is it costs more to bring a lettuce from Piraeus to Athens than it does to bring it from France. It take years to get the licences and permits to start a business and then there are all the “inspections.” And every rule, regulation and law is a rent seeking opportunity for someone.

Remember the guy said,”It's the same people.” They don't want to gore their own oxen.The EU oversight won't mean any thing unless it forces Greece to get rid of 90% of its laws and regulations having to do with business and land development. That won't kill rent seeking but will remove a lot of opportunity. So a lot of Greeks think they might be better off inside the euro, for a while, anyway if real reforms get pushed through.


Fifty % unemployment for those under thirty should be a motivation for those politicians who want to remain in country and keep their heads. There is no welfare scheme that can possibly cover that sort of mess. The only thing that can sort it out is to have no impediments to business development


Get done what EU forces them to do and then default, since they can't possibly pay, that would be a plan.

Will they do it? Don't know. They're going to have an election end of April. Very likely the winners will be lefties but they will have no money to spend and no way of getting it so prosperity through welfare won't cut it.

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To: frankw1900 who wrote (20627)3/5/2012 8:00:33 PM
From: Brian Sullivan of 23551
 
It seems that a game of chicken is being played here

> In essence Greece has defaulted already.

Right but the EU is declaring that for the purposes ofteh CDS default clause that Greece did not default.

The owners of Greek sovereign CDS are not the Greek government but are (sophisticated?!?!) investors who were betting (or insuring against) a Greek government default.

If the 3.2 billion of CDS are chicken feed then why does the EU attempt to rig the game so that the owners of these CDS get screwed? Why not just pay out the default clause of the CDS and give the owners of this insurance the profit on their winning bet?

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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (20628)3/5/2012 11:23:24 PM
From: frankw1900 of 23551
 
Right but the EU is declaring that for the purposes ofteh CDS default clause that Greece did not default.

Not EU, but ISDA whose members sell the CDSs. That's who made the declaration.

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If the 3.2 billion of CDS are chicken feed then why does the EU attempt to rig the game so that the owners of these CDS get screwed? Why not just pay out the default clause of the CDS and give the owners of this insurance the profit on their winning bet?

Again not the EU, the ISDA. See your post.

They sold these things as "insurance" and they're not going to pay out until Greece forces the bondholders to take a loss by either declaring it's not going to pay or impose new conditions on paying. I don't think it's actually done that, yet.The issuers won't pay until every 'i' is dotted and every 't' crossed. They might not pay anyway. Who says they have reserves?

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From: sixty2nds3/7/2012 9:02:11 AM
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news.yahoo.com 

Palin backs Gingrich, leaves door open for herself


Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin threw her weight behind Newt Gingrich as Republican presidential nominee on Tuesday -- but coyly left open the door for her own White House run if need be.

The controversial former 2008 vice-presidential nominee said she voted for Gingrich in Alaska's poll to choose a Republican candidate, one of 10 states to cast ballots on so-called "Super Tuesday."

"I will tell you who I voted for tonight... the cheerful one, it's Newt Gingrich," she told Fox News, referring to the one-word description the former House Speaker gave of himself at a debate last week.

"I have appreciated what he has stood for, stood boldly for," she said. "He has been the underdog in many of these primary races and these caucuses and I've respected what he has stood for."

She was speaking as long-time frontrunner Mitt Romney edged out rival Rick Santorum as he tightened his grip on the 2012 Republican presidential nomination with a string of six Super Tuesday wins, including in Alaska, where CNN projected Romney winning with 33 percent of the vote.

But Gingrich won resoundingly in his home state of Georgia, giving him an outside chance of rebooting his bid if he can gain some momentum in a clutch of upcoming battles in the conservative Deep South.

Palin conceded that the race between Romney, Santorum, Gingrich and libertarian Ron Paul lacks excitement, but predicted it would heat up once Republicans choose a nominee -- and launched a swipe at Romney in that regard.

"There will be that zip-a-dee-doo-dah after the nominee is chosen. I guarantee there will be that enthusiasm," she said.

"But to be brutally honest -- and I say this with all due respect to governor Romney, who is obviously the frontrunner .. he's not garnering a lot of that enthusiasm right now."

Palin, a darling of the ultraconservative Tea Party movement but lampooned and vilified by the left, flirted for months last year with running for the Republican ticket, eventually deciding against it in October.

But with the Republican race showing no sign of being wrapped up anytime soon -- unusually for a party which traditionally chooses its candidate rapidly -- Palin admitted that there could still be a role for her.

Although it would be an unlikely scenario, Palin said she might consider throwing her hat into the ring if pressed.

She was asked specifically what she would do if the Republican party faced an open convention this August -- meaning none of the current candidates would have sewn up the nomination by then -- and someone asked her to stand.

"Anything is possible. I don't close any doors that perhaps would be open out there, so no, I wouldn't close that door. My plan is to be at that convention," she told CNN in her hometown of Wasilla, Alaska.

The Republican party's 2008 presidential nominee, Senator John McCain, picked Palin as his running mate before losing to Democrat Barack Obama.

She was ridiculed abroad, notably for foreign policy gaffes, but became a Tea Party leading light and media pundit, lashing out at big government and the "lamestream" media as she and her family basked in the celebrity spotlight.

In Anchorage on Tuesday night there seemed little enthusiasm for any of the frontrunners -- a trend noticed throughout the race, which has seen a succession of rivals leapfrogging into the lead over Romney, before fading.

Voter Andy Kriner said that he had switched allegiance in recent months: "I started with Herman Cain, then I went to Newt Gingrich, and now Romney is probably the guy who will get the nomination.

"He seems like a good guy. I'm not passionate about him, but I'm more passionate about him than I am (about) Obama."

Asked if any of the Republican candidates could win against the incumbent president, he said: "If I had to bet on it, I'd say it would be hard for anybody to beat Obama."

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From: sixty2nds3/7/2012 11:00:38 AM
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news.yahoo.com 
US physicists confirm Higgs finding is nearUS-based physicists said Wednesday that their experiments confirm those from a major European atom-smasher's that have narrowed the range where the elusive Higgs boson particle could be hiding.The results come from the now-defunct Tevatron collider, which closed down in September after nearly a quarter century, though physicists continue to analyze its data in the hunt for the so-called "God particle."

The Higgs boson is the missing link in the standard model of physics and is believed to be what gives objects mass, though scientists have never been able to pin it down and it exists only in theory.

"The end game is approaching in the hunt for the Higgs boson," saidJim Siegrist, Department of Energy associate director of science for high energy physics.

"This is an important milestone for the Tevatron experiments, and demonstrates the continuing importance of independent measurements in the quest to understand the building blocks of nature."

Physicists from the CDF and DZero collaborations at Fermi National Acceleratory Laboratory in Illinois said in a statement that their data "might be interpreted as coming from a Higgs boson with a mass in the region of 115 to 135 GeV (gigaelectronvolts)."

That result includes the slightly more narrow constraints announced in December 2011 by scientists at CERN's Large Hadron Collider -- the world's largest atom-smasher, located along the French-Swiss border.

The CERN (European Center for Nuclear Research) experiments, carried out by a consortium of 20 member nations, have shown a likely range for the Higgs boson between 115 to 127 GeV.

GeV is the standard measure for the mass of sub-atomic particles. One GeV is roughly equivalent to the mass of a proton.

However, none of the hints so far have been enough for physicists to announce that the particle has been "discovered," or to claim there is enough evidence to say for certain that it exists.

Fermilab director Pier Oddone said he was "thrilled with the pace of progress in the hunt for the Higgs boson," noting that scientists from around the world have combed through hundreds of trillions of proton-antiproton collisions.

"There is still much work ahead before the scientific community can say for sure whether the Higgs boson exists," added Dmitri Denisov, DZero co-spokesman and physicist at Fermilab.

"Based on these exciting hints, we are working as quickly as possible to further improve our analysis methods and squeeze the last ounce out of Tevatron data."

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To: sixty2nds who wrote (20631)3/7/2012 11:03:44 AM
From: DMaA of 23551
 
95% of all science reporting is pure speculation.

Higgs finding is near

Thanks for the update US Physicist. Why don't you get back to us when you actually have something to report.

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To: DMaA who wrote (20632)3/7/2012 2:38:21 PM
From: Lhn5 of 23551
 
What is the difference between the fed buying bonds and the fed buying 'sterilized' bonds?

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To: sixty2nds who wrote (20621)3/7/2012 4:49:39 PM
From: frankw1900 of 23551
 
Good morning Frank. I am as excited about investing in China as I am on Africa. vbg.

I couldn't contain my excitement anymore so I bought some of this:

lonrho.com 

A good bank doing a pan-African business might be a smooth move, also.

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To: Lhn5 who wrote (20633)3/7/2012 5:07:45 PM
From: SGJ of 23551
 
Fed buying increases banks reserves. Sterilized buying is net neutral to bank reserves.

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From: Lhn53/7/2012 5:56:26 PM
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From Barrons:







Odds of more monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve seem to get longer as the economic data improve. And the Federal Open Market Committee is unlikely to take further action at its one-day meeting next Tuesday.

But a long-time observer of Fed policy—from the inside and the outside—thinks another round of quantitative easing, or other measures, is likely later this year. Vincent Reinhart, Morgan Stanley's chief U.S. economist, formerly was director of the Fed's Division of Monetary Affairs and served as the FOMC's secretary and economist, so he has seen things from both sides.

In his latest report, Reinhart writes there is a 75% probability the Fed will take some "unconventional action by June" because of the "political calendar." The central bank is supposed to be above the political fray, but this former Fed insider thinks Ben Bernanke & Co. will want to keep a lower profile in the second half of the election campaign season.

Secondly, the economics also will justify a move, he continues. (I may be naïve but I still find it jarring to list economics after politics in determining Fed decisions, but I'm not an ex-insider.) Economic slack (read "unemployment") persists and inflation remains below the Fed's medium-term projections, Reinhart notes.

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