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To: Solon who wrote (28831)6/18/2012 10:44:54 AM
From: ponokee   of 28898
 
Scam artist pastor’s followers get minor payback after being bilked of more than $8.2-million

Adrian Humphreys, National Post
Monday, Jun. 18, 2012

The expansive home of pastor Marlon Gary Hibbert stood out from neighbouring suburban new builds because of two stone lions ensconced at the foot of the driveway.

The noble beasts were likely chosen for their biblical imagery but the more worldly character of the lion as an apex predator, voracious in its hunger, now seems more appropriate to his many victims who once respected him as a man of faith promising them riches as well as salvation.

Mr. Hibbert was the pastor and founder of Dominion World Outreach Ministries in Toronto and a founder of Fight For Justice, an organization devoted to bettering the lives of the African-Canadian community.

Despite his religious and social workload — and having no training or license from any securities regulator — he spent an inordinate amount of time handling other people’s money.

Benefitting from the blanket of trust his positions draped over him, Mr. Hibbert bilked investors out of more than $8.2-million.

On Thursday, his victims won a moral victory through a judge’s order that Mr. Hibbert pay his victims almost $100,000 in legal fees, their cost in bringing a civil suit against him that prompted an Ontario Superior Court judge to declare him a liar, fraudster and cheat.

Mr. Hibbert was ordered last month to pay back the invested money — as well as the 5% per month in interest he had guaranteed investors when raking in their cash.

“Greed is a vice that makes normally rational people act irrationally,” Justice Harrison Arrell declared in one of his two rulings in the case. “It plays exceeding well into the old maxim ‘If it looks too good to be true it usually is.’ This case proves that both theories are alive and well.”

Former clients wept during testimony at the Ontario court and at the Ontario Securities Commission as they spoke of their hardship from losing their savings.

One woman invested to provide security for her children, one who is blind and autistic and the second merely blind. Another woman lost her house, moved into a rental apartment with her three children and took on a second job to pay her bills.

A victim was a fellow pastor with a religious prison ministry; he was satisfied with the promises he heard because Mr. Hibbert was a “man of God,” he testified. Another victim was an assistant pastor in Mr. Hibbert’s church.

From 2006 to 2008, people funnelled millions of dollars to him for investment. They heard by word of mouth that he had an investing scheme, through members of the church or through Mr. Hibbert’s relatives, who were among his victims.

It was easy pickings for the pastor.

Victims came to him, pleading to take part.




One of two stone lion statues is seen outside of pastor Marlon Gary Hibbert's former Markham, Ontario, home on Sunday, June 17, 2012. Last week Hibbert was ordered to pay the legal fees of his victims in a financial scam. Matthew Sherwood for National Post


The investment Mr. Hibbert touted involved foreign currency exchanges. He guaranteed a 5% return per month return or 8½% per month if the funds were locked in for one year. Mr. Hibbert then signed a contract promising he “personally would guarantee the principal amount and the interest payment,” court documents say.

The victims said they believed their money was safe because Mr. Hibbert was a pastor, a notion Judge Arrell referred to as “stupidity.”

By 2009, the interest payments stopped and Mr. Hibbert became hard to reach. Demands for refunds piled up. It became clear the investments were lost.

“No evidence was produced by him to indicate that any investments were even made, never mind whether they ever made a profit,” Justice Arrell said in his ruling.

Mr. Hibbert used much of the money for his own use, for his wife, to lease expensive cars and make donations to charities he was closely tied to and, in some cases, paid by.

“As a result of his actions the plaintiffs lost all they invested with him,” Judge Arrell said.

According to the Ontario Securities Commission, the total loss by more than 200 investors was $8.2-million in principle and more than $13-million in promised interest.

“The defendant testified that he was simply a bad bookkeeper and businessman; that he had sloppy business and accounting practices; and that he was the victim of worldwide financial markets gone awry. I disagree,” wrote Judge Arrell.

It is uncertain, however, when and how the victims might recoup their losses: One of the few assets Mr. Hibbert had — the fancy house guarded by stone lions — was secretly sold during the hearing.

While Judge Arrell had earlier concluded that Mr. Hibbert’s wife, Verna, was not part of the swindle, he was dismayed she sold the house in the midst of the court battle.

“It is significant to this court that it learned after the trial that during it she listed and sold the home in question,” wrote Judge Arrell in Thursday’s ruling. “Such conduct is outrageous and worthy of sanction. The fraudulent conveyance was a significant and important part of this litigation as the only remaining asset of the defendants would appear to be this house.”

Because of it, Mrs. Hibbert was ordered responsible for paying 25% of the legal fees spent on chasing her husband down.

nationalpost.com 

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To: Greg or e who wrote (28807)6/18/2012 4:08:48 PM
From: ponokee   of 28898
 
Vatican blames the media and the Devil for Catholic Church’s recent troubles Philip Pullella, Reuters

Jun 18, 2012 – 1:47 PM ET



AFP PHOTO / POOL / DANIEL DAL ZENNARO

Vatican State Secretary Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (R) looks at Pope Benedict XVI at La Scala theater Orchestra during a concert in Milan on June 1, 2012 during the 7th World Meeting of Families.

VATICAN CITY — The Vatican’s number 2 accused the media on Monday of trying “to imitate Dan Brown” in their coverage of the VatiLeaks scandal and said the Roman Catholic Church’s latest travails were part of the Devil’s attempt to destabilize it.

The interview with Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who ranks second only to Pope Benedict in the Vatican’s hierarchy, was the latest attempt at damage control by senior Vatican officials since the leaks scandal began in January.

In a rare interview with the Italian Catholic magazine Famiglia Cristiana, Bertone, the Vatican’s secretary of state, accused the media of “intentionally ignoring” the good things the Church does while dwelling on scandals.

“Many journalists are playing the game of trying to imitate Dan Brown,” said Bertone, referring to the best-selling author of novels such as “The Da Vinci Code” and “Angels and Demons.”

“They [journalists] continue to invent fairy tales and repeat legends,” he said.

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      The scandal involves the leak of sensitive documents, including letters written to Pope Benedict whose butler, Paolo Gabriel, was arrested last month after a large number of stolen documents were found in his home.

      Bertone said the media were full of “pettiness and lies spread in these days,” adding that “outside Italy people have a hard time trying to understand the vehemence of some Italian newspapers.”

      He said the Church was “an unequivocal reference point for countless people and institutions around the world” and added: “This is why there is an attempt to destabilize it.”

      THE DEVIL MADE THEM DO IT

      Bertone branded as false the image of the Vatican as a place of intrigue and power struggles, saying: “The truth is that there is an attempt to sow division that comes from the Devil.”

      At a briefing with the Vatican’s chief spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, an Italian reporter contested Bertone’s portrayal of the media, telling him that the leaks scandal started with a letter in which an archbishop complained to the pope about corruption in the Vatican.

      Several leaked documents allege corruption in the Vatican’s business dealings with Italian companies that were paid inflated prices for work in the Vatican, rivalries among cardinals, and clashes over the management of the Vatican bank.

      Lombardi said that while he did not want to make “generalized condemnations,” he believed that some of the coverage of the Vatican was “not founded on objectivity.”

      Earlier this month Lombardi acknowledged that it would take time to restore trust within the walls of the Vatican and to heal the damage to the Church’s reputation caused by the leaks scandal and the subsequent arrest of the pope’s butler.

      Gabriele was arrested on May 23 and has been interrogated several times by a Vatican magistrate who must decide whether he should stand trial on charges of aggravated theft.

      Bertone said no cardinals were suspected of involvement in the leaks scandal.

      He also denied allegations by Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, the former head of the Vatican bank, that he was ousted because he wanted the bank, officially known as the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR), to be more transparent.

      Bertone repeated the Vatican’s position that Gotti Tedeschi left after a no-confidence vote by the bank’s board because he was a divisive and inefficient manager.

      Next month, MONEYVAL, the Council of Europe’s monitoring mechanism on money laundering and terrorism financing, will discuss a draft report on whether the Vatican, a sovereign city state surrounded by Rome, is complying with international standards.

      The MONEYVAL rating and recommendations are used by other organizations, such as the OECD, which refers to it when deciding whether to place states on its so-called white list – a clean bill of health which could help the Vatican move on from a spate of scandals over the last 30 years.

      Bertone said the bank had been much maligned and that its board was working “to recover the esteem it deserves at the international level.”

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      To: 2MAR$ who wrote (28811)6/18/2012 9:05:20 PM
      From: ponokee   of 28898
       
      Child abuse...

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      From: ponokee6/21/2012 5:16:38 PM
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      Saudi man executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery'

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    • A Saudi man has been beheaded on charges of sorcery and witchcraft, the state news agency SPA says.

      The man, Muree bin Ali bin Issa al-Asiri, was found in possession of books and talismans, SPA said. He had also admitted adultery with two women, it said.

      The execution took place in the southern Najran province, SPA reported.

      Human rights groups have repeatedly condemned executions for witchcraft in Saudi Arabia.

      Last year, there were reports of at least two people being executed for sorcery.

      Mr Asiri was beheaded after his sentence was upheld by the country's highest courts, the Saudi news agency website said.

      No details were given of what he was found guilty of beyond the charges of witchcraft and sorcery.

      Amnesty International says the country does not formally classify sorcery as a capital offence.

      But the BBC's Arab Affairs Editor, Sebastian Usher, says there is a very strong prohibition of some practices from the country's powerful conservative religious leaders.

      Some, he explains, have repeatedly called for the strongest possible punishments against anyone suspected of sorcery - whether they are fortune tellers or faith healers.

      In 2010, a Lebanese television presenter of a popular fortune-telling programme was arrested while on pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.

      Though sentenced to death, after pressure from his government and human rights groups, he was freed by the Saudi Supreme Court, which found that he had not harmed anyone.

      More recent cases of death on charges of sorcery include that of a Saudi woman, executed for committing sorcery and witchcraft in December, in the northern province of Jawf, and that of a Sudanese man executed in September, despite calls led by Amnesty International for his release.

      bbc.co.uk 

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      To: ponokee who wrote (28835)6/25/2012 8:33:52 AM
      From: Solon   of 28898
       
      If you read the bible you see that Yahweh was a pro-abortionist!

      Modern pro-life people (those who believe in fundamental rights and freedoms) detest old yabber dabber Yahweh for his genocide against the living and the unborn! What was the matter with that guy? And why was he so TRIBAL?! :-)

      Doesn't a fetus have a right to be inside the body of the woman?

      A fetus does not have a right to be in the womb of any woman, but is there by her permission. This permission may be revoked by the woman at any time, because her womb is part of her body. Permissions are not rights. There is no such thing as the right to live inside the body of another, i.e. there is no right to enslave. Contrary to the opinion of anti-abortion activists (falsely called "pro-lifers" as they are against the right to life of the actual human being involved) a woman is not a breeding pig owned by the state (or church). Even if a fetus were developed to the point of surviving as an independent being outside the pregnant woman's womb, the fetus would still not have the right to be inside the woman's womb.

      What applies to a fetus, also applies to a physically dependent adult. If an adult—say a medical welfare recipient—must survive by being connected to someone else, they may only do so by the voluntary permission of the person they must be connected to. There is no such thing as the right to live by the efforts of someone else, i.e., there is no such thing as the right to enslave.

      abortionisprolife.com 

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      To: ponokee who wrote (28833)6/25/2012 8:51:26 AM
      From: Solon   of 28898
       
      This fellow banned me for 3 days for using the word "shit" in a post! Take a listen to this video he posted!

      Message 28224091

      Actually, now I like the guy. He has a sense of humour! I guess I will just need to remain puzzled by the rest of it and shrug... -g-

      Here is the post he banned me for.

      Message 28218165

      So if you ever have somebody call you such libellous names for 1-2 years running...please do not take any offense and call him a "shit brain"!! People who libel others should not have to endure any chastisement...

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      To: ponokee who wrote (28835)6/25/2012 8:56:16 AM
      From: Solon   of 28898
       
      "Mr Asiri was beheaded after his sentence was upheld by the country's highest courts, the Saudi news agency website said.

      No details were given of what he was found guilty of beyond the charges of witchcraft and sorcery.

      Amnesty International says the country does not formally classify sorcery as a capital offence."

      God is great and God is good! Let us smash the donkey. Amen!

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      To: ponokee who wrote (28834)6/25/2012 9:19:26 AM
      From: Solon   of 28898
       
      Quite a bit of evidence coming in that the bible was truly written by Yahweh. Quite impressive...

      gardenofpraise.com 

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      To: ponokee who wrote (28835)6/26/2012 6:07:48 PM
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      I see the best and greatest church in the world got their injunction! YAHOO!!

      landoverbaptist.org 

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      From: Solon6/27/2012 10:46:11 AM
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      Is this true?

      "And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."

      (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)

      MOST ASSUREDLY NOT!

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