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To: rzborusa who wrote (269442)3/6/2012 4:14:41 PM
From: Elmer Phud
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They did not (do the honorable thing)

We must assume then they did the dishonorable thing...

You must feel terribly humiliated...

Poor man.

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To: Mahmoud Mohammed who wrote (269418)3/6/2012 4:27:39 PM
From: muzosi
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there is only one clown in this group.

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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (269429)3/6/2012 4:30:10 PM
From: muzosi
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Why don't you add something of value to this board?
i think momo is adding enough value. the snr is stratospheric. it's ok for others to bring it down a little.

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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (269438)3/6/2012 4:32:34 PM
From: muzosi
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what did you expect them to say "i am so sorry we missed it. it was great technology but we couldn't see it at the time" ?

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To: muzosi who wrote (269447)3/6/2012 4:40:52 PM
From: Elmer Phud
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what did you expect them to say "i am so sorry we missed it. it was great technology but we couldn't see it at the time" ?

No, I would have expected them to keep quiet if they really missed the boat.

Why do you have trouble believing Intel really did turn it down? Can you make a case that it's compelling technology with performance nobody else can duplicate?

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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (269448)3/6/2012 4:49:47 PM
From: muzosi
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performance nobody else can duplicate

when was that the only reason for acquiring ip? big companies usually have a nih syndrome which causes them to struggle for a long time without getting much better performance. sometimes performance doesn't matter though, a monopoly can push a worse product.

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To: muzosi who wrote (269449)3/6/2012 4:54:43 PM
From: Mahmoud Mohammed
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Mr Muzosi,

Re: "... sometimes performance doesn't matter though, a monopoly can push a worse product."

And sometimes performance does matter and a company is able to command higher ASPs.

Mahmoud

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To: muzosi who wrote (269449)3/6/2012 5:47:15 PM
From: Elmer Phud
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when was that the only reason for acquiring ip? big companies usually have a nih syndrome which causes them to struggle for a long time without getting much better performance. sometimes performance doesn't matter though, a monopoly can push a worse product.

Intel recently bought QLogic IP.

newsroom.intel.com

So obviously they were in the market for high performance interconnect IP. Infiniband is a standard Intel defined years ago but left it to others to implement. Now it looks like they're interested in using it perhaps with Intel silicon. They could have bought SM but chose QLogic instead. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.

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To: greg s who wrote (269427)3/6/2012 6:42:30 PM
From: steve harris
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lol

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From: Elmer Phud3/7/2012 10:13:02 AM
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From Chipguy on iHub

E5-2690 vs 6282 SE:

Two socket TPC-E

E5-2690 (2s/16c/32t) - 1863.23 TpsE @$207.85/TpsE
6282 SE (2s/32c/32t) - 1232.84 TpsE @$257.00/TpsE

tpc.org ... esults.asp

Sandy Bridge gets 51% higher TPC-E performance than
Bulldozer with half the cores.

Two socket SAP-SD

E5-2690 - 7855 users
6282 SE - 5660 users

sap.com

Sandy Bridge gets 39% higher SAP-SD performance than
Bulldozer with half the cores.

So much for "fake" Intel threads vs "real" AMD threads.
For server workloads so far it looks like a SandyB core
performs 2.8 - 3.0 times better than a BD core.

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