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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (236754)7/20/2007 9:04:37 AM
From: niceguy767 of 272322
 
"I also think there is dishonesty on AMD's part in talking about q4 break-even as though it has a strong likelihood."

Me too, with the objective os setting up an 100M share issue to pay down a $2B debt held by a "shakey" Wall St. friend.


"Even though I don't like shorting any stock, this one is a good candidate now."


Yeah, fundamentals support no more than $6! Just watch the chart.

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To: BUGGI-WO who wrote (236753)7/20/2007 9:14:30 AM
From: romus of 272322
 
Add. comments:

"AMD continues to hemorrhage cash," noted Cowen & Co.'s Jason Barton, who rates AMD at "Neutral." While cost reductions show "fiscal responsibility to investors and creditors," he said, the company's spending is still high as it tries to attain 35 percent market share in a battle with Intel Corp. "While management has no intention to simply 'cut their way to success,' we have a hard time fathoming a return to profitability against the current competitive backdrop," Barton wrote.

Jefferies & Co. analyst John Lau echoed the thought. "While hope springs eternal, high operating expenses coupled with an aggressive pricing environment will make that profitability goal elusive," he said. Lau kept a "Hold" rating on the shares, but raised his price target to $16 from $14.


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To: romus who wrote (236757)7/20/2007 9:30:46 AM
From: BUGGI-WO of 272322
 
[edited] @Romus - Targets
I couldn't take e.g. Glen Young from Citi serious, because he
derives his target based on 2009 EPS projections. I'm wond-
ering who could make a 2009E guess, not alone 2008E, which is
extremly tough. When all my university knowlegde was right,
I would use a forecast which is derived from the actual
situation. We both know what this means. So, when it comes
to price target in that environment, you could only go back
to past times, where the situation was as bad. The problem,
the situation wasn't that bad in the past. The only way too
measure is a mix of Rev. forecast/potential cash flow and
some hard numbers as book-value. These numbers alone could
be taken seriously, the other things are WILD guesses, which
could be way too low or way too high.
I would summarize the next two year very simple. When you
want to valuate AMD, it will only be a measure, how you
could see K10 DC near term and K10 QC longer term. Why? It
should be clear, that AMD can't ramp a 300mm^2 DIE in volume
for desktop - I mean volume, not small fractions of % of
overall volume - really volume. So QC is mainly a Server-
product up to the point where 45nm kicks in. The way to value
AMD is the way you value K10 Desktop DC against both Penryn
DC and QC derivatives. Why QC at Intel - just because DIEs
are small and prices already low for QC. When you could give
yourself an answer how this will look in Q1 and going forward,
you could SERIOUSLY give a value measure. Why do I say this?
Its simple, noone knows that much about K10 at this point
and Henry yesterday said, that performance is not so impor-
tant - other factors play a bigger role. Its up to how you
value these phrases.

BUGGI

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From: BUGGI-WO7/20/2007 9:39:02 AM
of 272322
 
[edited] @Shorts
Glad I shorted into the AH Fake yesterday.

Message 23716597

BUGGI

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To: BUGGI-WO who wrote (236759)7/20/2007 9:49:34 AM
From: niceguy767 of 272322
 
Looks like some sanity is now settling into the AMD market place...Is the AMD party winding up?

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To: niceguy767 who wrote (236760)7/20/2007 9:50:44 AM
From: BUGGI-WO of 272322
 
Where are all the buyers?

From the numbers, the stock should be down in 10-20% range
today. But we still have a few hours to trade.

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To: BUGGI-WO who wrote (236761)7/20/2007 9:52:28 AM
From: niceguy767 of 272322
 
"Where are all the buyers?"

Shopping elsewhere?

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To: graphicsguru who wrote (236735)7/20/2007 10:43:39 AM
From: dougSF30 of 272322
 
Thanks, I found it. A bunch of "aiming for" and "like to" crap, IMO. They won't be anywhere close.

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To: Dan3 who wrote (236737)7/20/2007 10:47:08 AM
From: dougSF30 of 272322
 
You'd better cover those shorts.

Um, Dan, how many times do you have to be told that I am not short AMD before you stop making that claim? Some may be starting to believe you are being deliberately dishonest.

It's not a lofty goal.

Suuuuure it isn't. AMD can stop losing $600M/Q anytime they want to, right?

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To: romus who wrote (236755)7/20/2007 11:01:00 AM
From: wbmw of 272322
 
Romus, can you show me where to find all your wonderful analyst coverage? Is there a link, or is it the result of a paid premium service? TIA.

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