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5/24/2012 2:00:56 PM
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From Qualcomm's
direct
perspective, the value of whatever clout Bharti brings to this adventure is likely now capped. Based upon experience todate, believing otherwise seems rather naïve. The competition (Reliance, BSNL and ???) hasn't changed with this deal.
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5/24/2012 2:35:23 PM
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---> Qualcomm got $85M out of the deal
This isn't correct. The extra funds were reported as going into new equity of the joint entity of which Qualcomm owns 51%. The money will hopefully be used to
partially
fund the build out of infrastructure. Insight into the real details of what was actually consummated here are still a couple years off and by that time they will have undertaken all sorts of additional funding transactions to cloud matters even further.
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5/24/2012 3:03:46 PM
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The deal, as reported, just doesn't make any sense. What else is new!
We had 74% of the entity before the deal and now have 51%. It appears that we received no cash from the deal but must have gotten something for the noted dilution. Does $85M in extra equity funding account for our 23% reduction in equity value? That means we got no credit for putting up the funds for Tulip's deficiency and might well have to deal with that matter as a separate affair.
It might well be that Bharti has committed to more fully fund the infrastructure build out but that's certainly not clear
. It sure would be nice if Qualcomm could be a bit more transparent with the millions of dollars they slosh about.
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5/24/2012 3:10:14 PM
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Bharti stock +5%..Q down 2.5% pretty much tells us everything we need to know...right??
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5/24/2012 3:23:28 PM
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After all the carnage of the last month, being down another 2.5% on this deal is also non sensical. That's another $3B cut in market cap coupled with the transfer of half the repayment obiligation for the billion dollar spectrum costs to the responsibilty of Bharti, an actual operating 3G partner.
Lot's of ways to slice and dice this deal and the market seems to realize value to/from someone not matter which way one choses to wander.
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5/25/2012 6:42:43 AM
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This chip is for tablets and notebooks, only, and not suitable for handsets.
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5/25/2012 7:32:41 AM
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According to S&P, Bharti will pay an additional $900 mil-$1 bil, in cash and assumption of debt, for Qualcomm's controlling share, on top of the $165 mil. Does that sound better, assuming Bharti is responsible for the infrastructure costs?
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5/25/2012 8:17:34 AM
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---> according to S&P
I heard about the assumption of debt but not any extra cash payment. An amount of $900M would be about right for the cost of infrastuture. Is it possible that S&P is just speculating on that now being a Bharti responsibility? That would make sense. Establishing a 2014 takeout price now for Qualcomm's 51% seems a bit preemptive, although meeting conditions as to finally taking Qualcomm out was noted in Qualcomm's PR.
I'm surprised S&P has these extra details.
[Edit] I see from Google S&P was speculating on the takeout price. Who pays for infrastructure costs is still up in the air.
economictimes.indiatimes.com
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5/25/2012 12:03:51 PM
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If QCOM sells its position for approximately what it paid, it will benefit by the original terms requiring service providers to switch to LTE for data communications based on CDMA (instead of WiMax or some other system).
Art
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5/25/2012 12:59:15 PM
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The best part of this deal is getting Bharti Airtel on board. They are the fast growing underdog in India and fill geographical holes for Qualcomm beyond India.
airtel.in
Wimax was the battle two years ago. We are now well beyond that fray. Qualcomm's ex-partners here may well have been the real problem holding back this adventure. Could payment of a deficiency be considered a form of graft? Let's not go there though.
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