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To: slacker711 who wrote (105408)9/20/2011 7:35:20 PM
From: engineer2 Recommendations   of 117538
 
This is actually hilarous hypesmanship......If you checked, the Qualcomm baseband plus snapdragon probably has more like 6+ cores inside if your counting hte ARM based stuff, more like 20+ if your also counting QDSP cores.

You think they actually run the snapdragon to do sleep mode in the baseband? No, they most likely use an ARM thumb or Arm9 to do it at far less power and far less silicon space.

So Nvidia actually copied Qualcomm and put another core in there (what KIND OF CORE????) to do low power stuff. and why? what exactly are they going to do with this new low power core they could not have done with their other core? If you don't need the speed, just clock it slower. Cmos still scales with clock speed. Ahhh, yes, clock scaling is not as note worthy as FIVE cores. So what next 50 cores just so they can do LOWER power?

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To: slacker711 who wrote (105408)9/20/2011 8:03:24 PM
From: FUBHO   of 117538
 
RE:The ARM15 is inherently more power efficient than the ARM9 and that is before Qualcomm's customizations.


Krait does not use A15 cores. It is still Qualcomm's custom design.


en.wikipedia.org 

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To: engineer who wrote (105414)9/20/2011 8:43:19 PM
From: slacker711   of 117538
 

So Nvidia actually copied Qualcomm and put another core in there (what KIND OF CORE????) to do low power stuff. and why? what exactly are they going to do with this new low power core they could not have done with their other core? If you don't need the speed, just clock it slower.


It is another A9 and they are using an LP process to allow for lower power consumption than would be possible using one of the quad cores.

nvidia.com 

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To: FUBHO who wrote (105415)9/20/2011 8:47:15 PM
From: slacker711   of 117538
 
Krait does not use A15 cores. It is still Qualcomm's custom design.

As with Snapdragon versus the A8/A9, I still expect the overall performance to be in the same range except that Krait should have better power consumption numbers.

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To: slacker711 who wrote (105417)9/20/2011 8:52:45 PM
From: FUBHO   of 117538
 
All we have right now are a lot of marketing slides from the companies. It seems prudent to wait for actual chips, power numbers and benchmarks to see what the reality of the situation is.

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From: JeffreyHF9/20/2011 9:01:21 PM
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Amy Berguson, of Qualcomm IR, has responded to Hedgie's issue as follows:


"We will be the supplier of a mirasol display into the e-reader product that will be launched by a partner"

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To: JeffreyHF who wrote (105419)9/21/2011 12:07:49 AM
From: BDAZZ2 Recommendations   of 117538
 
Okay, Arts scenario is sounding better. But could Qcom possibly meet a million plus demand if it arose in early 2012?

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To: BDAZZ who wrote (105420)9/21/2011 7:44:55 AM
From: slacker7111 Recommendation   of 117538
 
But could Qcom possibly meet a million plus demand if it arose in early 2012?


This isnt Amazon. It is going to be some no-name 3rd party eReader that will hopefully sell a hundred thousand units. I believe that the capacity from the new fab is scheduled to be coming on-line in the 2nd half of 2012.

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To: slacker711 who wrote (105421)9/21/2011 7:57:27 AM
From: JeffreyHF   of 117538
 
The geek and public receptions for early Mirasol will be important, in terms of setting expectations, and creating unmet demand. One can only hope the delays have given them time to refine the product, and that the new fab will produce sufficient yields to prove viability. I would like demand to outstrip supplies, and for rave techno and consumer reviews to permeate market perception.

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To: JeffreyHF who wrote (105422)9/21/2011 8:03:57 AM
From: slacker711   of 117538
 
I would like demand to outstrip supplies, and for rave techno and consumer reviews to permeate market perception.

The reviews of the screen and the battery life are the only important parts to me. There could be all kinds of reasons that a no-name eReader doesnt sell and even if the overall reviews are mediocre, the tech sites will key in on the performance of the screens. Hell, a Mirasol display is the only reason that a site like Engadget would even review an eReader from a company like Pocketbook.

It would be awesome to get some good reviews though. We could actually see the stock start discounting the future revenue from the new fab.


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