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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (26504)5/28/2012 12:05:29 PM
From: LLCF   of 36578
 
Yep, dogmatic fools. Severe dogmatism at that, just like some of the Muslim Terrorist groups, exactly the same. No room for compromise, label anyone that disagrees as...... well as a Muslim terrorist if you can! If not, try "communist", or "socialist", "un-american", or whatever... doesn't matter as long as you keep chanting and not listening to the other side. And why should they... they know the ultimate truth... they think they talk to "god".

Pathetic, childish stuff.

DAK

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (26482)5/28/2012 12:27:18 PM
From: LLCF   of 36578
 
He just keeps chanting and cutting and pasting the same idiotic stuff over and over. Definitely in the top 5 idiots on SI. He'll blubber about any topic under the sun in terms of "conservative" and "liberal" with no actual idea of what he's talking about.

LOL, what an incredible putz he is. You could start a thread called SI "Circus Geeks" for his asinine posts but he's so insanely busy banging away on the keyboard down the basement of his parents home (where rent is free and they throw scraps down the stairs) instead of living an actual life that it would be impossible to maintain it!!

Toss in PopeGreg and a few others and forget it, it would be overwhelming... I think along with Brummy they keep these anti-atheist, anti-Darwinist, anti-liberal, and other pro-hate web sights alive!!

Just put them on ignore, they're just big babies whining away for attention.

DAK

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To: Solon who wrote (26520)5/28/2012 12:38:43 PM
From: 2MAR$   of 36578
 
Top Ten Creationist Arguments (totally debunked)



Still amazed the nimrods are still challenging the geologic age of the earth by pointing to the limitations of carbon dating & bringing up the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics .Surprise , thats why we don't use carbon dating to detemine the age of the planet !

The Creationist thermodynamic law argument fails because they don't ever take the time to know what the other laws are , the second law deals only with closed systems where no energy or matter leaves & enters. The Earth was in heavy bombardment in its early formation recieving new material (and energy) all the time ,being acted upon 24hrs a day on the surfaces & deep along the volcanic plates & fissures .
en.wikipedia.org 

Then we add a steady stream of energy from the Sun inputting 24hrs a day , just amazing these people
have such little imagination that they could miss that ! The Sun is a hard thing to miss , must have heads
buried in some deep agendas somehwere else?

meme evol

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To: LLCF who wrote (26521)5/28/2012 1:07:07 PM
From: longnshort   of 36578
 
"If not, try "communist", or "socialist", "un-american", or whatever."

or whatever, like racist, homophobe, nazi, Klanmens, union buster, war profiteer, war monger, torturer,

Pathetic, childish stuff

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To: LLCF who wrote (26522)5/28/2012 1:08:57 PM
From: longnshort   of 36578
 
the mental midget speaks

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From: Brumar895/28/2012 1:11:21 PM
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Mystery of Martian Meteorites' Organic Stuff Solved


by Charles Q. Choi, SPACE.com Contributor
Date: 24 May 2012 Time: 02:00 PM ET

Organic molecules — compounds that on Earth can be linked with life — encased within Martian meteorites now reveal biological activity on the Red Planet could not have formed these materials, researchers say.

Organic molecules are the carbon-based raw materials that building blocks of life such as proteins and DNA are made from. These organic compounds have been detected in meteorites from Mars that crashed on Earth before, but scientists have hotly debated what their origins are — they might be signs of life on the Red Planet, or merely contaminants that made their way into the rocks after they landed.

To help solve the mystery behind these organic molecules, researchers analyzed 11 Martian meteorites, including the new Tissint meteorite that fell into the Moroccan desert in 2011. Altogether, these rocks span 4.2 billion years of Martian history.

The investigators now reveal that organic molecules within these meteorites did originate on Mars.

Organic molecules — compounds that on Earth can be linked with life — encased within Martian meteorites now reveal biological activity on the Red Planet could not have formed these materials, researchers say.

Organic molecules are the carbon-based raw materials that building blocks of life such as proteins and DNA are made from. These organic compounds have been detected in meteorites from Mars that crashed on Earth before, but scientists have hotly debated what their origins are — they might be signs of life on the Red Planet, or merely contaminants that made their way into the rocks after they landed.

To help solve the mystery behind these organic molecules, researchers analyzed 11 Martian meteorites, including the new Tissint meteorite that fell into the Moroccan desert in 2011. Altogether, these rocks span 4.2 billion years of Martian history.

The investigators now reveal that organic molecules within these meteorites did originate on Mars.




"Mars apparently has had organic carbon chemistry for a long time," study lead author Andrew Steele, a microbiologist at the Carnegie Institution of Washington, told SPACE.com.
However, these organic molecules do not appear biological in origin.

"They formed from volcanic processes," Steele said.

Ten of the meteorites possessed complex hydrocarbons — compounds of carbon and hydrogen atoms — encased within grains of crystallized minerals that formed within cooling magma.

"When the minerals crystallized from the magma, they trapped carbon in them, and over time, organic compounds formed within these mineral bottles," Steele said.

One might wonder if organic molecules from potential microbes on Mars made their way into this magma via geological activity, much as how tectonic processes on Earth shifts matter around our planet. However, "such processes are very peculiar to Earth — Mars does not have tectonics," Steele said.

An open question now is what other activity might have taken place on Mars after such organic molecules formed.

"We now find that Mars has organic chemistry, and on Earth, organic chemistry led to life, so what is the fate of this material on Mars, the raw material that the building blocks of life are put together from?" Steele said.

[ A lot of scientists very much want to believe that organic chemistry leads to life, somehow automatically, so scientists have a bias to finding life on Mars or somewhere. ]

Now that scientists have a better picture of the foundations of Martian chemistry, they can better look for anomalies that might be signs of life with missions to the Red Planet, such as NASA's Mars Science Laboratory, scheduled to land the Curiosity rover on Mars in August this year.

"We'll see if there are hints that Mars is not a dead planet," Steele said.

The scientists detailed their findings online today (May 24) in the journal Science.

http://www.space.com/15860-mars-meteorites-life-building-blocks.html

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From: Brumar895/28/2012 1:56:53 PM
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' Meat Eaters' Professor Faked Data for Years


From an unfazed Associated Press:



Dutch professor faked data for years TOBY STERLING, Associated Press
November 05, 2011

AMSTERDAM (AP) – A prominent Dutch social psychologist who once claimed to have shown that the very act of thinking about eating meat makes people behave more selfishly has been found to have faked data throughout much of his career.

In one of the worst cases of scientific fraud on record in the Netherlands, a review committee made up of some of the country’s top scientists has found that University of Tilburg Professor Diederik Stapel systematically falsified data to achieve the results he wanted.

The university has fired the 45-year-old Stapel and plans to file fraud charges against him, university spokesman Walther Verhoeven. Stapel acknowledged in a statement the accusations were largely true.

"I have manipulated study data and fabricated investigations," he wrote in an open letter published by De Volkskrant newspaper this week. "I realise that via this behavior I have left my direct colleagues stunned and angry and put my field, social psychology, in a poor light."


The committee set up to investigate Stapel said after its preliminary investigation it had found "several dozen publications in which use was made of fictitious data" in the period since 2004, though Stapel’s career goes back to the early 1990s.

This year, Stapel co-authored a paper published in Science magazine that said white people are more prone to discriminate against black people when they encounter them in a messy environment, such as one containing litter, abandoned bicycles and broken sidewalks.



"These findings considerably advance our knowledge of the impact of the physical environment on stereotyping and discrimination and have clear policy implications," the paper’s abstract says.

Although the paper that linked thoughts of eating meat eating with anti-social behavior was met with scorn and disbelief when it was publicised in August, it took several doctoral candidates Stapel was mentoring to unmask him.

We suspect there was not much "scorn and disbelief" since the kind of claims Stapel advanced were exactly what the news media and the rest of the liberal establishment love to hear.

So no matter how preposterous such claims are, they are almost never questioned. Just like as in this case, where instead of ridicule, Mr. Stapel received fame and respect up until he went a little too far.

Verhoeven said the three graduate students grew suspicious of the data Stapel had supplied them without allowing them to participate in the actual research. When they ran statistical tests on it themselves they found it too perfect to be true and went to the university’s dean with their suspicions…

In his statement, Stapel didn’t directly say what his motivations were. He said he had succumbed to competitive pressures and the need to publish. But he said "it’s important to me to underline that the mistakes I made weren’t for selfish reasons."

The review panel noted Stapel had enjoyed a position of prestige as a professor and head of his department, and that he had access to subsidies and funding for his projects as a result of the fraud.



Would it be too cynical to wonder if other scientists ever succumb to pressure and fake data to get money and prestige? Probably. Such things probably never happen in the field of science.

For the record, here is a typical write up of Mr. Stapel’s ‘meat eater’ findings, from the Dutch Daily News, back in August:

Meat eaters are selfish and less social Dutch Daily News
Aug 30, 2011

"Meat brings out the worst in people. This is what psychologists of the Radboud University Nijmegen and Tilburg University concluded from varrious [sic] studies on the psychological significance of meat.



Thinking of meat makes people less socially and in many respects more "loutish". It also appears that people are more likely to choose meat when they feel insecure, perhaps because it is a feeling of superiority or status displays, the researchers suggest.

Marcel Zeelenberg Tilburg professors (Economic psychology) and Diederik Stapel (consumer sciences and dean of Tilburg School of Social and Behavioral Sciences) and the Nijmegen Professor Roos Vonk (social psychology) examined the psychological significance of meat. "People say, meat is tasty, it’s healthy. But like many other meat products has also a symbolic and expressive value ‘, Zeelenberg explained. "Think of driving a Hummer or a [small car]. With both you’ll get to your destination, but a Hummer is tougher. Like the Hummer meat is bad for the environment and climate. It is also bad for animals, the third world and our own health. But people can get quite upset when you tell them that. They are obviously very attached to their steak."

In other studies it was examined what happens to people when they think of meat. They got to see a picture of a juicy steak, while a control group saw a picture of a cow or a tree. Thinking of meat, does not exactly bring out the best in people, Roos Vonk noted. People who looked at the steak had made selfish choices during a division game, they often chose in their own interest. In imaginary situations, they found themselves more important than others and reacted less social: in a fire they found that they often wished to be saved first, and that they were less willing to help someone who is upset. It was also found that after people eating meat they felt less connected to others, lonely and unpopular

Eating meat is also traditionally associated with status, meat used to be much more expensive and scarcer than now. Eating meat is a way to elevate yourself above others… It also makes people loutish when they think about meat and also feel lonely…

All of which would be hilarious, if it hadn’t been believed.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/meat-eaters-professor-faked-data-for-years

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From: Brumar895/28/2012 1:58:40 PM
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Red Wine Researcher Accused of Faking Data


From a selectively skeptical Associated Press:



Red wine researcher accused of falsifying data By Stephanie Reitz
01/12/2012

HARTFORD, Conn. — A University of Connecticut researcher known for his work on red wine’s benefits to cardiovascular health falsified his data in more than 100 instances, university officials said Wednesday.

UConn [sic] officials said nearly a dozen scientific journals are being warned of the potential problems after publishing his studies in recent years.

The researcher, Dr. Dipak Das, did some studies of resveratrol, an ingredient in red wine that has shown potential for promoting health.

But Dr. Nir Barzilai, whose research team conducts resveratrol research at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, told the Associated Press that Das is not a major figure in the field. The new allegations will not make a material difference to resveratrol research, which is being conducted extensively around the world with encouraging results from many labs, Barzilai said…

This sounds like the same thing we heard when so much of the global warming research turned out to be falsified. It doesn’t matter.

UConn officials said their internal review found 145 instances over seven years in which Das fabricated, falsified and manipulated data, and the U.S. Office of Research Integrity [sic] has launched an independent investigation of his work

Who knew there was such a bureaucracy? So has the US Office Of Research Integrity launched an independent investigation into Climate-Gate? If not, why not?

(We are kidding, of course.)

Eleven scientific research journals that have published Das’ work are being notified of the problems, which came to light after a three-year review sparked by an anonymous complaint in 2008 of potential irregularities in his research.

Haven’t there been complaints about potential irregularities in global warming research? We seem to recall quite a few.

The university’s health center recently declined to accept $890,000 in federal grants awarded to Das as its review was under way, and has frozen all other external funding for his lab.

So once again it would appear that a ‘scientist’ may have been willing to falsify his research for filthy lucre.

And notice that he was receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants from the federal government – not Big Wine.

They were probably earmarks from Congressional vineyard owners, like Nancy Pelosi.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/red-wine-researcher-accused-of-faking-data

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (26523)5/28/2012 2:28:26 PM
From: LLCF   of 36578
 
<The Sun is a hard thing to miss , must have heads buried in some deep agendas somehwere else? >

Right... and hiding in old dank basements with no windows banging on keyboards!! LOL

DAK

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (26523)5/28/2012 2:31:34 PM
From: Solon1 Recommendation   of 36578
 
Yep! That is an EXCELLENT video! Even better in full page view.

Every one of those childish and stupid "arguments" have been bandied about here by either Gweggy or Brum.
They have no idea how exposed they are! :-)

youtube.com 

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