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To: longnshort who wrote (26065)5/13/2012 6:22:25 PM
From: Brumar89
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The worst part of that story is that Obama clearly hates America as much as Wright, he just can't tell the truth about what he thinks till he's won his last election.

“Barack said, ‘I’m sorry you don’t see it the way I do. Do you know what your problem is?’ And I said, ‘No, what’s my problem?’ And he said, ‘You have to tell the truth.’

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From: Brumar895/13/2012 6:32:19 PM
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John Gray: Evolutionary theorists assume their own leanings in morality are universal

In “The Knowns and the Unknowns” (The New Republic, April 20, 2012), John Gray’s review of Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion , Gray notes:

Haidt’s account of the emergence of morality is disputed by other evolutionary psychologists, who argue that group selection is a part of Darwin’s inheritance that should be discarded. The debate has been heated and at times rancorous, an exercise in sectarian intellectual warfare of the kind that is so often fought in and around Darwinism. As is often the case, a larger issue has gone largely unexplored. In evolutionary theories of this kind, what exactly is it that is being explained? Though they think their theories are universally applicable, evolutionary theorists commonly take their local conception of morality for granted. Books such as Marc Hauser’s Moral Minds, one of the more impressive of recent applications of Darwinism to ethics, assume that acting morally is a matter of following rules or principles having mainly to do with justice and the prevention of harm. This may seem self-evident to secular social scientists in American universities, but it hardly squares with how most human beings (or most Americans, for that matter) understand morality.

Haidt’s view is more realistic. “There’s more to morality than harm and fairness … the righteous mind is like a tongue with six taste receptors. Secular Western moralities are like cuisines that try to activate just one or two of these receptors—either concerns about harm and suffering, or concerns about fairness and injustice. But people have so many other powerful moral intuitions, such as those related to liberty, loyalty, authority, and sanctity.” This recognition that morality has many “flavors” is welcome, but it leaves some important questions unanswered. What if the evolutionary psychologist’s “groupish” understanding of morality fails to square with powerful moral intuitions? Haidt notes that most human cultures have been “sociocentric” rather than individualistic, and quotes with approval the anthropologist Clifford Geertz’s observation: “The Western conception of the person as a bounded, unique, more or less integrated motivational and cognitive universe … is, however incorrigible it may seem to us, a rather peculiar idea within the context of the world’s cultures.”

Only six flavours? And if Marc Hauser’s book is “one of the more impressive of recent applications of Darwinism to ethics,” it’s not irrelevant that he resigned from Harvard under the cloud of fabricated research. 

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From: Greg or e5/14/2012 3:03:58 AM
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Michael Shermer's pseudoscience

In this morning’s developments, we have prominent skeptic Michael Shermer, in Much Ado About Nothing, making the case that the Multiverse finishes off that “God” business, using “multiverse hypotheses predicted from mathematics and physics”. His authority here is the Hawking/Mlodinow popular book, but he’s also convinced that WMAP and LIGO are somehow going to provide evidence for multiverses, something that even the most far-out theorists in this field aren’t claiming. In addition:
Maybe gravity is such a relatively weak force (compared with electromagnetism and the nuclear forces) because some of it “leaks” out to other universes.
Nobody seems to have told Shermer that this is not an idea taken seriously by a significant number of theorists, or that LHC data has shot down the hopes of the one or two such theorists.

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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (26059)5/14/2012 10:56:55 AM
From: longnshort
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look at this moron, he raised taxes so more productive people left the state and he got less tax revenues. So what is the answer for this liberal regarding this revenue problem ? yeah raise taxes again. you libs just don't get it. we aren't bricks.

California Gov. Jerry Brown said the state's projected budget deficit widened to $16 billion from about $9 billion, and he warned that the state will need deeper cuts to services such as education if voters don't pass a tax-increase measure he is championing.

The Democratic governor on Monday is set to release his revised 2012-13 budget to lawmakers in the state's Democratic-controlled Legislature.

While he didn't outline details of his new budget plan in a brief YouTube address, Mr. Brown said the state would have to cut funding to schools and public-safety agencies already hit with steep budget cuts in recent years unless voters pass his ballot proposal in November.

That measure would temporarily raise sales taxes, to 7.5% from 7.25% for four years, and it would boost income taxes by as much as three percentage points for seven years on individuals making more than $250,000 a year or households making more than $500,000.

"What I am proposing is not a panacea, but it goes a long way towards cleaning up the state budget mess," Mr. Brown said in his video statement.

H.D. Palmer, spokesman for the governor's Department of Finance, said Mr. Brown still planned to make deeper cuts to other services even if the measure is approved.

Some Democratic lawmakers quickly showed support for working with the governor.

"It pains us to have to bridge such a sizable gap, but we will get the job done with an eye toward doing the least amount of damage to our economy and to those who are struggling the most," Darrell Steinberg, the state Senate president pro tem, said in a statement.

Most Republican lawmakers oppose any new tax increases, saying they would slow California's economic recovery. But they have been largely sidelined in this year's budget process after voters in 2010 passed a measure allowing budgets to be passed by a simple majority of the Legislature rather than the former requirement of two-thirds.

David Valadao, a Republican assemblyman from Hanford, in the inland Central Valley, said the new deficit projections don't change his opposition to new taxes. "We've done nothing to create more jobs such as easing regulations on business," said Mr. Valadao, who like many Republicans is pushing for more breaks to businesses to stimulate economic growth.

It remains unclear whether the governor's tax plan will pass in the fall, although public-opinion polls in recent months have shown wide support.

The new budget uncertainty arose when revenue fell below Mr. Brown's projections when he first submitted a proposed spending plan in January, and when spending cuts came in lower than expected because of federal delays and court rulings, Mr. Palmer said. The state controller's office said personal-income-tax revenue—a large part of California's income stream—came in $2 billion below estimates during April.

California's recovery has been uneven. High unemployment persists in many inland areas, while coastal areas have recovered more strongly on resurgence in technology and other industries.

State officials have held out hope that initial public offerings of Facebook Inc. and other tech companies could generate new tax revenue in time to reduce the projected deficit for the fiscal year that begins July 1. Facebook alone could provide $1.5 billion in additional tax revenue by June 2013, Mr. Palmer said.

A state deadline for passing a balanced budget is June 15.

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To: longnshort who wrote (26069)5/14/2012 1:45:55 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist
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Please tell us when Jerry Brown raised taxes.

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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (26070)5/14/2012 1:49:29 PM
From: longnshort
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have any rich left from the last tax increase ? will more leave if he raises taxes ?

MD was getting about 2.5 billion from the rich, so the geniuses said if we raise taxes on the rich we can get 4.5 million, so they did. The rich went to Virginia, MD got 1.4 billion in taxes from the remaining rich.

smart move

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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (26070)5/14/2012 1:50:29 PM
From: longnshort
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How much in taxes will the US get from that Yahoo guy now that he left the country.

smart move Obama

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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (26070)5/14/2012 1:54:27 PM
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here's why the rich left(lets see the people voting for the rich to pay more so they can get more free stuff, the rich know what the vote will be so they left, smart move Jerry)

Gov. Jerry Brown on Monday proposed a ballot initiative that would ask Californians to raise taxes on themselves.

Facing huge deficits despite $10 billion in budget cuts last year, California needs new tax dollars in order to avoid catastrophic cuts to schools and government services for the elderly, Governor Brown said.

His plan includes a 1 percent income-tax-rate increase for individuals making more than $250,000 per year, and a 2 percent rate increase for those making more than $500,000. It would also increase the state sales tax by half a cent to 7.75 percent.

RECOMMENDED: Why Americans won't raise taxes

In total, at least 10 initiatives that propose tax increases are vying to qualify for the 2012 ballot in California – a sign that the state that led the national tax revolt with Proposition 13 in 1978 might now be considering at least a partial reversal of course.

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To: Solon who wrote (25956)5/14/2012 2:03:51 PM
From: average joe
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LeBlanc sex assault case begins in Yarmouth

May 14, 2012 - 12:31pm By BRIAN MEDEL Yarmouth Bureau

Former Roman Catholic priest Albert LeBlanc leaves Yarmouth Provincial Court Monday. LeBlanc was there for the opening day of his trial on sexual abuse charges dating back decades. (BRIAN MEDEL / Yarmouth Bureau)

YARMOUTH — The trial of former priest Albert LeBlanc, accused of sexually abusing boys in the 1970 and 80s, is expected to get underway this afternoon in Yarmouth provincial court.

Now in his 80s, LeBlanc, a one-time Roman Catholic priest who later became a probation officer, was to stand trial this morning. However, Crown attorney Alonzo Wright and defence lawyer Gilles Lemieux, have spent much of the morning behind closed doors discussing the case which is scheduled for five days.

Today is the first time that LeBlanc has been in the courthouse. He has also spent the morning behind closed doors, staying out of sight in a room normally reserved for lawyers to speak with their clients.

Nearby a group of about a dozen victims and their supporters have been waiting anxiously for the trial to start and for their first glimpse of LeBlanc.

Security is tight and everyone entering the court complex must first pass through a metal detector.

LeBlanc was arrested in early January 2011 in Bouctouche, N.B., where he lives with his wife, who is also in her 80s.

He originally faced 40 charges of gross indecency and indecent assault spanning 15 years starting 1970. The alleged victims were between the ages of seven and 11 at the time.

Police have since laid 10 additional charges which also date back to the 1970s.

Once the criminal case has been resolved, LeBlanc will also have to face a law suit launched by three of his accusers.

The men are seeking $5 million in damages in their suit against LeBlanc, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Halifax and the Diocese of Yarmouth. 

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To: longnshort who wrote (26073)5/14/2012 2:05:42 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist
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Aren't you embarassed by your original false accusation?? Here's what you said regarding Jerry Brown:

"look at this moron, he raised taxes so more productive people left the state and he got less tax revenues."

Now you are posting a PROPOSED ballot initiative.

You knee-jerk tea partisans have no clue that aside from direct vote, it takes a supermajority in Calfornia state government to raise taxes. Don't let facts get in your way.

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