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To: JDN who wrote (656442)11/3/2004 10:23:08 AM
From: Nite-Man
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You probably thought, well if he's President at least I get him the hell out of the state.

You may be joking but you're awfully close to the truth. lol If this election was about his senate record as it should have been the thing would not even have been close. (except in the exit polls) Hehehe

Best regards,

NM

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To: goldworldnet who wrote (656460)11/3/2004 10:24:10 AM
From: FastC6
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Absolutely.

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From: TideGlider11/3/2004 10:26:19 AM
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Will Kerry concede to Bush?

By CALVIN WOODWARD and RON FOURNIER
WASHINGTON - President Bush edged closer to victory Wednesday against Sen. John Kerry in a roiling contest that came down to a heart-stopper in the heartland, a battle over Ohio. Disheartened Kerry aides met to evaluate his options, with concession the talk of the day.

Nothing was settled or conceded in the first light of day, but Kerry faced a daunting task trying to deny Bush an electoral majority that was almost within reach. The Democrat's campaign planned a statement by midday, advisers said. Two of them, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Kerry's concession seemed simply a matter of time after one last look for uncounted ballots that might close the 136,000-vote advantage Bush held in Ohio.

"We are convinced that President Bush has won re-election," said White House chief of staff Andy Card. But that conviction did not sway Democrats, who insisted Kerry was still in contention for Ohio's decisive cache of 20 electoral votes.

Bush himself planned to declare victory before long. Republican Party Chairman Marc Racicot said the president put it off temporarily as a courtesy to Kerry, "to allow the opportunity to look at the situation in the cold hard light of day."

Before both sides retired for an hour or two of sleep, one top Kerry adviser said the Democrat's chances of winning Ohio, and with it the White House, were difficult at best.

Kerry's braintrust met first thing Wednesday and planned at least one other session before taking their recommendation to the senator, said several officials involved in the deliberations.

"We will fight for every vote," John Edwards, Kerry's running mate, told supporters in Boston in the wee hours Wednesday. "We've waited four years for this victory. We can wait one more night."

Continuity was the result elsewhere in government, with the GOP padding its Senate majority - knocking out Democratic leader Sen. Tom Daschle of South Dakota in the process - and easily hanging on to the House. That will be the state of play on Capitol Hill for the next two years, with the chance of a Supreme Court nomination fight looming along with legislative battles.

Glitches galore cropped up in overwhelmed polling places as Americans voted in high numbers, fired up by unprecedented registration drives, the excruciatingly close contest and the sense that these were unusually consequential times.

"The mood of the voter in this election is different than any election I've ever seen," said Sangamon County, Ill., clerk Joseph Aiello. "There's more passion. They seem to be very emotional. They're asking lots of questions, double-checking things."

The country exposed its rifts on matters of great import in Tuesday's voting. Exit polls found the electorate split down the middle or very close to it on whether the nation is moving in the right direction, on what to do in Iraq, on whom they trust with their security.

The electoral map Wednesday looked much like it did before; the question mark had moved and little else.

Bush built a solid foundation by hanging on to almost all the battleground states he got last time. Facing the cruel arithmetic of attrition, Kerry needed to do more than go one state better than Al Gore four years ago; redistricting since then had left those 2000 Democratic prizes 10 electoral votes short of the total needed to win the presidency.

Florida fell to Bush again, close but no argument about it.

And so all eyes turned to Ohio, where Democrats clung to hopes that provisional ballots would overcome Bush's lead. With Bush leading by 145,000 votes, one top Kerry adviser said the Democrat's chances were tough.

Bush's relentless effort to wrest Pennsylvania from the Democratic column fell short. He had visited the state 44 times, more than any other. Kerry picked up New Hampshire in perhaps the election's only turnover.

In Ohio, Kerry won among young adults, but lost in every other age group. One-fourth of Ohio voters identified themselves as born-again Christians and they backed Bush by a 3-to-1 margin.

A sideline issue in the national presidential campaign, gay civil unions may have been a sleeper that hurt Kerry - who strongly supports that right - in Ohio and elsewhere. Ohioans expanded their law banning gay marriage, already considered the toughest in the country, with an even broader constitutional amendment against civil unions.

In all, voters in 11 states approved constitutional amendments limiting marriage to one man and one woman.

For all the stumping in Ohio, nine in 10 voters had made up their minds before the last week, and they favored Bush. True to his reputation as a strong closer, Kerry performed better than Bush among those who decided late.

In Florida, Kerry again won only among voters under age 30. Six in 10 voters said Florida's economy was in good shape, and they voted heavily for Bush. Voters also gave the edge to Bush's handling of terrorism.

In Senate contests, Rep. John Thune's victory over Daschle represented the first defeat of a Senate party leader in a re-election race in more than a half century. Republicans were assured of at least 53 seats in the coming Senate, two more than now.

Republicans made gains in the House, too, where they had prevailed for a decade.

The dispute in Ohio concerned provisional ballots - those cast by people whose qualifications to vote were challenged or whose names were missing from the voter rolls.

Nationwide, with 98 percent of the precincts reporting, 112 million people had voted - up from 105 million in 2000. Bush was ahead in the popular vote, which he lost in 2000, and independent Ralph Nader was proving to be much less of a factor this year than four years ago.

Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and the television networks by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International suggested that slightly more voters trusted Bush to handle terrorism than Kerry. A majority said the country was safer from terrorism than in 2000, and they overwhelmingly backed Bush.

But many said things were going poorly in Iraq, and they heavily favored Kerry. And with nearly 1 million jobs lost in Bush's term, Kerry was favored by eight of 10 voters who listed the economy as a top issue.

(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserv

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To: JDN who wrote (656091)11/3/2004 10:27:17 AM
From: DOUG H
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i want lurch to drag it out to deepen the proof of what an idiot he is. all the votes can be counted but THEY WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. i want the nation to see that lurch is too bitter and selfish to see that. it will only further solidify the fact that last night, America made the right choice./

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To: E who wrote (656242)11/3/2004 10:27:26 AM
From: Neocon
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Thanks, E. Feel free to have a little cake and punch.

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To: tonto who wrote (656443)11/3/2004 10:29:27 AM
From: Srexley
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"Loyal democrat followers have lost confidence and their faith in their party"

No doubt. It doesn't look much better for them in the future. A lot of them are older folks that think they still stand for the working man. My wifes granny has always been demo, and still is. But she voted after her brother in law played the zell miller speech to her. Point being this group is shrinking, and we are growing more repubs than we are demos.

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To: JDN who wrote (656459)11/3/2004 10:29:47 AM
From: CYBERKEN
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The level of TAXATION in a state varies directly with their shade of blue.

Ohio is no longer a bellweather. It is a corrupt, high-tax failure.

Now that the Republicans have demonstrated that they can raise enough REAL AMERICANS from such a graveyard to keep the Democrats out of power, it is not important for the Dems to foist their "provisional" fabrications on the count. It is, instead, important for the Dems to re-build for the New Amercan Renaissance...

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To: Peter O'Brien who wrote (656084)11/3/2004 10:31:38 AM
From: CYBERKEN
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W, a real leader, has MOVED the "center". The last president to do that was the late RONALDVS MAGNVS...

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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (656457)11/3/2004 10:32:11 AM
From: Srexley
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"You can tell them this over and over....they still will not get it."

True. The hatred runs so deeply that they disregard the truth in their desire to spread their hatred. Couple of the haters here yesterday were saying how the President would go out kicking and whining, and as of now, CNN STILL SAYING too close to call and Kerry WON'T concede.

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To: Srexley who wrote (656453)11/3/2004 10:32:14 AM
From: Wayners
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The Dems better figure out and quick that extreme liberals cannot win national elections or maintain leadership positions in the House or Senate. The more liberals the Dems put forward in an urealistic belief they can win and retain seats, the more damage they do to their own party. People like Michael Moore and George Soros and Hollywood loudmouths do their party a lot more harm than good.

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