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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (578979)5/27/2004 6:51:30 PM
From: Rock_nj
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Jimmy Carter was revered for his evangelical beliefs. It's one of the reasons he won the South easily in 1976. Of course, he's not some firebrand religious nut, but still religion sells in middle America, as I'm sure you know living in Texas.

As far as why people who have been hurt by Prez Bush's policies support him, I guess it's just a flaw in human nature. It's like the beaten wife who stands by her husband because she loves him. Once people have an affinity for something, it's almost impossible break it. A lot of it has to do with plain old ignorance, most people don't see the big picture, how some of George W.'s policies have encouraged their jobs to be outsourced out of the country, and their wages to stagnate, and their prescription drugs to be so expensive. People often vote against their interests. It's amazing how most of the states that are net donors to the federal government, usually vote Democratic (for bigger govt.), while the states that tend to get more back from Washington then they contribute vote ostensibly for the smaller government party.

I live in the northeast and Bush isn't too popular here, but Republicans are generally at a disadvantage here. Most Republicans up here would be considered liberals for sure in Texas. In my state it really doesn't matter if the Ds or Rs are in control, both tax and spend like there's no tomrorrow, both have big government tendencies (kind of like our current GOP bunch in Washington, smaller govt?!?).

Unless something miraculous happens over the next 5 months, Bush is going to be bounced. The Dems tend to be undercounted in polling by at least 2% and undecideds vote for the challenger overwhelmingly on a historical basis. Considering where the polls stand now, Kerry is in a very good position to send Bush back home.

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To: Srexley who wrote (578995)5/27/2004 6:52:11 PM
From: Doren
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it makes no difference whether they were in the Bush, Reagan or infant Bush admin. Their foreign policies are all the same. They deal with dictators when it suits them and that was the point.

They deal with dictators and congratulate themselves and later they use the dictators as an excuse to use military force to get what they want and what they want is energy at that moment with no thought for the strategic consequences to the United States or the world.

Basically they are inept at foreign policy but good at nepotism and cronyism.

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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (579012)5/27/2004 6:52:33 PM
From: one_less
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The finger is usually pointed at the right regarding:

I mean the civil liberties..

We have good cause to fear the erosion or even loss of civil liberty if we don't stand up and work together to strenthen our constitutional rights. There are good constitutions in place in some very corrupt countries. Ours is quite young and age has a deteriorating effect on document interpretation unless vigor is regularly pumped back into it to provide meaning and purpose.

The finger is usually pointed at the left for allowing basic principles of decency to be whittled at. We have good cause to fear a loss of concern for human justice when corporate execs who embessle and commit fraud as well as school age children caught cheating use president clinton as their excuse for breaches of ethics.

Left wing posturing demands that we wink at the lack of concern for the ethics of the clinton years and the assault on the justice system that occurred. Right wing posturing demands that we discount the critics of civil liberty erosion.

Keep pointing fingers back and forth and we can guarantee a continual erosion of ethics, liberty, justice and ultimatily the ability to effectively stand for any thing.

That is our current direction and we continue to blame each other down the primrose path to our own doom. What will it take to change that phenomenon?

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To: Srexley who wrote (578998)5/27/2004 6:54:45 PM
From: Doren
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Collectively that is correct. As a nation the US is the most wasteful nation ever. Our policies are collective. Many of us, mostly leftists or centrists are frugal and thoughtful.

If you cannot see that you are blind.

Stop splitting hairs to avoid the truth.

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To: Archie Meeties who wrote (579000)5/27/2004 6:57:03 PM
From: Doren
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Not so rare. Ha ha! What a chump the infant Bush is. Constantly undermining even his allies.

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To: Srexley who wrote (579006)5/27/2004 7:00:45 PM
From: Doren
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I can't control what you assume, Srexley. You can extrapolate any kind of daydream you want.

Which indicates TO ME that he has something to do with it.

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To: Red Heeler who wrote (579007)5/27/2004 7:01:15 PM
From: Doren
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He's not very good at it.

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To: Srexley who wrote (579009)5/27/2004 7:02:11 PM
From: Doren
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We don't blame AMERICA we blame BUSH.

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To: one_less who wrote (579011)5/27/2004 7:05:54 PM
From: Doren
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Empires generally survive about 100 to 200 years. If you look back at Egyptian dynasties or Chinese dynasties you'll see that there is a pattern. Governments nearly always get out of control after that period of time. They end up contemptuous of the people. The Chinese bureaucrats grew their fingernails extra long as an indication of the contempt they had towards working people.

I'm also wondering if it's a lost cause. Bush certainly makes it look like it. Clinton wasn't much better.

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To: Rock_nj who wrote (579013)5/27/2004 7:11:12 PM
From: Doren
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Bush can only win under two circumstances:

1) The successful hand over of the Iraq to a legally elected government and a US pull out. That's not going to happen. Bush can only install a puppet or let the Shiites win. He's not going to let them have a legal election.

2) Kerry could say something really stupid. This is far more likely. However I was impressed today to see him mentioning conservation and fuel efficient vehicles. Whoa! Who would have thought "fuel efficiency!"

Finally.

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