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To: Patsy Collins who wrote (386361)4/5/2003 5:02:15 PM
From: American Spirit   of 769617
 
You just contradicted yourself. Touting American freedoms (and I agree) then criticizing those who use freedom of speech to bring about what they believe will be a better government and world. Freedom of speech and religion making the world safer for capitalist trade. That is why we fight. Smaller issues like Iraqi human rights can also be added in.

Saddam we all cheer being toppled. Wonderful to see the Brits taking down his big statue in Basra. But realistically, he in no way threatened our freedoms, unless you want to include the freedom to be able to harvest oil more easily from the middle-east. He was more of a major pain in the A than anything else.

What threatens our freedoms and capitalistic system now? Two things, what's left of Al Qaida or future Al Qaidas, but mostly a possible imbalance of power giving too much control to the far right who actually inhibit free speech and would love to enforce a type of ideological tyranny in our media and public debate. Last seen during the McCarthy era. The McCarthy era proved it can happen here, so never underestimate the danger of such imbalances. And too much power in the military-industrial-big oil complex which in some ways transcends the power of our democracy and nation.

To a degree it's already happening. The so-called "liberal media" of old is gone now, replaced by an era of big corporate ownership, sound bites and fear to write or report anything which might upset the status quo.

Even the Wall Street and Enron crooks have been kept free without media pressure for indictments so as not to expose the corrupt underbelly of certain parts of our system. A lot more honesty needs to be injected into the debate and system. More checks and balances, not less. Deregulation of environmental rules and standards by Bushies is another egregious attack on our standards. As if pollution = jobs. Never has, never will. On the contrary.

Only common sense moderates stand in the way of the far right now. That's why you have go vote moderate from now on if you really stand for our freedoms.

The right-wing are also ironically very bad for our economy and social systems as they are for great transfers of wealth to the rich and favorite special corporate interests, but ballooning public debt so as to diminish the wealth of our nation and make it weaker not stronger. The end result could be that giant powers like Big Oil, the DOD and HMO's are completely above the law, and that our one outlet for information is owned by powers which do not want a lively public debate except as a sort of game on Hannity-Colmes type shows.

There is a hidden crisis going on in America now which the war clouds over. The fact is, while we rally our troops to victory, the real war is back home where we need to fight for our fundamental liberties, preserving the strength of our democracy and the all-crucial checks and balances of power in our government. Our founding fathers warned us what would happen if one party or interest wrests too much control. Democracy could be lost, as well as free speech and the right to question authority. And once we stop questioning, we become sheep, led to the "slaughter" by powers beyond our control.

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To: islug who wrote (386371)4/5/2003 5:06:23 PM
From: American Spirit   of 769617
 
RNC Tactic #4 - try to portray opponent as weak, not manly or strong. Even if he is a prominent war hero. Don't worry, attack war heros too. Unless they are right-wing war heros of course. Don't attack real men like Ollie North, just traitors like John Kerry and Max Cleland. McCain we'll see about later. He may turn out to be a traitor to the cause of right-wing rule too.

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To: PROLIFE who wrote (386369)4/5/2003 5:08:20 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston   of 769617
 
I think it is a KerryPostGenerator program.. It seems to grab a word or phrase and re-constitute around it.

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To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (386359)4/5/2003 5:09:07 PM
From: American Spirit   of 769617
 
Right, the Bushies have betrayed traditional conservative values. "the ideals of the classic republican party like individual rights and fiscal conservatism and generally a pro business bias" as you say. Anything but fiscally conservative, they hate conservation of the environment, they are treading on all kinds of individual rights, especially anyone who dares to disagree with them, and their pro-business bias may be the case rhetorically, but the assault of the public wealth and the middleclass consumers leaves businesses in the red.

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To: American Spirit who wrote (386364)4/5/2003 5:14:39 PM
From: coxie   of 769617
 
Maybe it’s difficult for you to understand during wartime when you say we need a regime change that's the chief military commander. These statements during the first two weeks of war is “ well lets say typical Kerry”, not to mention (again) he voted to give this chief commander the authority to do so.

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To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (386374)4/5/2003 5:16:39 PM
From: American Spirit   of 769617
 
The #1 reason to be behind Kerry other than Edwards for instance? Edwards is a great candidate, wonderful guy and I expect he'll be president someday. But in this grave era of war, post 9-11 and very tough and complex diplomatic problems to unravel, we need Kerry because he's perhaps the top expert in military, intelligence and foreign affairs in the senate. One of the top three or four certainly. And the fact that he's a bona fide war hero makes Bush's posturing as the military macho man a joke.

Bush has two major achilles heels, his domestic failures, mostly economic, and the character/honesty problems, starting with his going AWOL from the Texas Air Guard leading up through Enron and the dozens of broken promises he's made us. The latter Gore let him get away with, but Kerry wont.

The righties are trying desperately to try and somehow tar Kerry's character, but all the attacks are inane and/or trivial. They wont work. Shortly, attention will return to our dismal Bush economy. In the end, all the smoke-screens and diversions ihn the world cannot hide it.

Kerry is also the fiercest and best campaigner and debater in the country, bar none. And he tells the truth, not just a buncha Bushie feel-good slogans and phony photo op backdrops.

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To: CYBERKEN who wrote (386245)4/5/2003 5:20:17 PM
From: goldworldnet   of 769617
 
Hopefully, Syria and Iran are paying attention.

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To: goldworldnet who wrote (386378)4/5/2003 5:24:20 PM
From: John Carragher   of 769617
 
North Korea.... and the rest of the world... WE have one hell of a professional military.... Something we should all be very proud of... I hope they all get recognized when they return...

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To: coxie who wrote (386376)4/5/2003 5:27:16 PM
From: American Spirit   of 769617
 
Kerry has earned the right to criticize Bush. And not to be counter-attacked by hypocritical chickenhawks about his patriotism. They dish it out every day but cant take it. Hiding behind the war as if any crificism will cost US lives. Kerry has always been about saving US lives, by careful prep and maximum number of allies. Genreal Wesley Clark said recently that the military expects and accepts criticism of the policy-makers. Just dont criticize the troops, and Kerry is one of them so never would.

The term "regime change in Washington" has been around for many months. Bush certainly has a regime. It's the most partisan, imperial, narrow-minded administration we've ever seen and wants to be in total control of the public debate (or lack thereof). Their true agenda they wont even tell us. Because if they were to, they'd be voted out immediately.

Thank God we have have tough champions of democracy like Kerry to speak out forcefully against it. As the Iraqis needed to be freed, so do we in 2004, though not sa much as the Iraqis as Bush doesn't go around killing our citizens.

What Bush does want to do though is control this country for his narrow special interests. We cannot grant Bush his wish to be, in effect, a dictator. Because who would suffer? Almost everyone. But especially democracy itself, and freedom of the press and speech in the process.

By the way, if Bush keeps us in a constant state of war, does that mean no one can ever speak out against him without being called "un-American"? Think about it. What if Bush invades Syria, Iran, North Korea for the next six years? does that mean we're all supposed to just cheer him on and salute? Hardly. He gets a pass on Iraq because Saddam is a creep, but starting this week, the real debate begins. After all, this war is all but over. Even if a Saddamite blows up a chemical bomb in downtown Baghdad, it's over for that regime. So we need to concentrate on the next necessary regime-change, which is right here at home.

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To: goldworldnet who wrote (386378)4/5/2003 5:49:37 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps   of 769617
 
You hope the terrorists in the Middle East will be scared off by the war in Iraq. I say that is wishful thinking. They are paying attention but not the way you suggest.

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