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To: MKTBUZZ who started this subject3/26/2003 2:13:11 PM
From: Baldur Fjvlnisson   of 769617
 
Who in their right mind uses other people's money to accumulate this overpriced junk:

Price/Book (mrq) 6.21
Price/Earnings (ttm) 134.21
Price/Sales (ttm) 15.12

It has cratered 90% but is still incredibly expensive.
tell you later which wonderdog this is.

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To: MKTBUZZ who started this subject3/26/2003 2:16:15 PM
From: Baldur Fjvlnisson   of 769617
 
You want to read this to understand why you're gonna

lose money in 2004 when scamkeepers congress and the SEC garbage will be forced to deal with stock watering scams:

CEOs as Central Bankers (Final Part 3)
by Tim Picks
Market Ruminations
March 16, 2003

financialsense.com 

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To: MKTBUZZ who started this subject3/26/2003 2:18:41 PM
From: Baldur Fjvlnisson   of 769617
 
Counterattack? KARBALA, Iraq (CNN) -- A column of up to

1,000 Iraqi military vehicles was reported moving south Wednesday night toward Najaf, the scene of an earlier battle with U.S. forces, U.S. Army officers told CNN.

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To: JakeStraw who wrote (379492)3/26/2003 2:18:43 PM
From: George Coyne   of 769617
 
Actually, if he claimed anything more than 50 - 60 %, I might tend to believe him. I'm 50 % off my peak in early 2000, but much better off than I was in mid 1998. If you rode the bubble up as well as down, cutting losses to some degree, it wasn't bad from a longer perspective.

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To: Baldur Fjvlnisson who wrote (379495)3/26/2003 2:21:06 PM
From: jan_vandermeer   of 769617
 
Hey Baldy, are you from Iceland?

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To: steve harris who wrote (379235)3/26/2003 2:28:49 PM
From: steve harris   of 769617
 
re:Charlie Gibson showed his left tilt this morning on ABC.
In the battle of Najaf, even though Centcom has not released any coalition casualty figures...."there must be some"


cnn.com 
NEWS ALERT
Pentagon: No U.S. forces killed in battle near Najaf Tuesday that killed "hundreds" of Iraqis. Details soon.


antiAmerican Broadcasting Network wrong again.

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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (379487)3/26/2003 2:32:36 PM
From: Kevin Rose   of 769617
 
Agreed. Costs will likely be high. Although I believe the actual number of troops lost will be relatively low, that is the highest cost. Then, add the war costs, and we are paying a lot for removing this threat. I guess we just need to balance it with the theoretical cost of prevented wars and terrorism. A worst case scenerio, where Iraq uses WMD against Israel, with Israel retaliating, and sparking another Arab vs Israel war, would certainly have a much higher cost...

I'd like to see how Bush handles North Korea. Clearly, we cannot take them militarily without a huge buildup or use of nukes ourselves. They have a standing army of well over 1m men, and they proved themselves vicious fighters in the last war. This will be Bush's chance to show that he can do diplomacy.

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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (379504)3/26/2003 2:40:04 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof   of 769617
 
Re: "Then, add the war costs, and we are paying a lot for removing this threat. I guess we just need to balance it with the theoretical cost of prevented wars and terrorism."

>>> That is... if this 'prevents' any wars and terrorism, instead of increasing terrorism. (And, if is is better or worse at achieving those two goals than other approaches might have been.)

>>> Time will tell.

>>> I think if Bush I had had a better sense of strategy, and taken Saddam out in Desert Storm... likely he could have saved us 1/2 trillion dollars of costs.

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To: jan_vandermeer who wrote (379502)3/26/2003 2:47:07 PM
From: jan_vandermeer   of 769617
 
BBC'c own embedded reporter assails the BBC's spin of it's anti-war coverage.


By TREVOR KAVANAGH
Political Editor

THE BBC was last night sensationally condemned for “one-sided” war coverage — by its own front line defence correspondent.

Paul Adams attacks the Beeb for misreporting the Allied advance in a blistering memo.

And he warned the BBC’s credibility is at risk for suggesting British troops are paying a “high price for small victories”.

On Monday, he wrote from US Central Command in Qatar: “I was gobsmacked to hear, in a set of headlines today, that the coalition was suffering ‘significant casualties’.

“This is simply NOT TRUE. Nor is it true to say — as the same intro stated — that coalition forces are fighting ‘guerrillas’.

“It may be guerrilla warfare, but they are not guerrillas.”

Adams’ memo was fired off to TV news head Roger Mosey, Radio news boss Stephen Mitchell and other Beeb chiefs.

It adds stunning weight to allegations that BBC coverage on all its networks is biased against the war.

In one blast, he storms: “Who dreamed up the line that the coalition are achieving ‘small victories at a very high price?’

“The truth is exactly the opposite.

“The gains are huge and the costs still relatively low. This is real warfare, however one-sided, and losses are to be expected.”

The BBC has come under attack for describing the loss of two soldiers as the “worst possible news for the armed forces”.

One listener asked: “How would the BBC have reported the Battle of the Somme in World War I when 25,000 men died on the first day?”




(Why the BBC matters.)


One of the key elements, we're finding out, in this battle is the willingness of the Iraqi people to stand up to the Saddamite remnants. That willingness depends, in part, on their confidence that the allies are making progress. What the BBC is able to do, by broadcasting directly to these people, is to keep the Iraqi people's morale as far down as possible, thereby helping to make the war more bloody, thereby helping discredit it in retrospect. If you assume that almost all these reporters and editors are anti-war, this BBC strategy makes sense. They're a military player. And they are objectively pro-Saddam.

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To: Moneysmith who wrote (379317)3/26/2003 2:52:40 PM
From: DMaA   of 769617
 
Says here that your PM Cretan now actively SUPPORTS Saddam:

So much poisoned water has passed under the bridge since then. And relations got still worse yesterday, when Prime Minister Jean Chrétien kneecapped Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham, who had suggested that Canada -- gasp! -- actually hopes Saddam Hussein is deposed.

In fact, Mr. Chrétien said, Canada opposes the war and the very idea of regime change. We're not even neutral any more.

globeandmail.com 

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