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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (8683)7/15/2005 10:45:11 AM
From: StockDung
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Netcurrents was another Dodi Handy company with High Hopes and a Felon. Ziasun hired Netcurrents to monitor the message boards. Never a good Business Plan to stiffle and monitor Free Speach for a fee..

RELEASE NO. 52040 / July 15, 2005
File No. 3-11983
The Securities and Exchange Commission today instituted public administrative proceedings pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (“Exchange Act”) against NetCurrents Information Services, Inc., a Delaware corporation formerly based in Beverly Hills, California, to determine whether the registration of its securities should be revoked or suspended for a period not exceeding 12 months for failure to file required periodic reports with the Commission in violation of Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13 thereunder. The Division of Enforcement alleges in the Order Instituting Administrative Proceedings that NetCurrents had common stock and Series A 8.5% convertible preferred stock registered pursuant to Section 12(g) of the Exchange Act. The Division of Enforcement further alleges that NetCurrents has not filed any periodic reports with the Commission for over three years. Specifically, NetCurrents last filed an annual report on Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2000 and last filed a quarterly report on Form 10-QSB for the quarter ended September 30, 2001.
A hearing will be scheduled before an administrative law judge to determine whether allegations of the Division of Enforcement contained in the Order Instituting Administrative Proceedings are true, to provide NetCurrents an opportunity to dispute the allegations, and to determine whether it is necessary and appropriate for the protection of investors to suspend for a period not exceeding 12 months or revoke the registration of the NetCurrents’ securities.
Pursuant to the Commission’s Rules of Practice, an initial decision shall be issued by the administrative law judge within 120 days from service of the Order Instituting Administrative Proceedings upon NetCurrents.
NTCS - NY Times article 09/03/01:
September 3, 2001
Entrepreneur Is Quiet About His Past and Gets New Start in Net Surveillance
Twice, Irwin Meyer has sailed on big ideas to some degree of fortune.
The first time was in 1977, when he found a struggling play based on a comic-strip character and helped turn it into the unlikely Broadway hit, "Annie." It earned him a Tony Award for co-producing the best musical of the year.
The second time was in 1999, when he discovered a technology that could scour Internet chat rooms for rumors, innuendo, opinions or lies about a particular person or company. He created a company to offer the service to any business worried about its image — and its stock price.
To win the trust of investors and clients, Mr. Meyer boasted of his Tony Award, and of the years he spent as a television and commercial producer in Hollywood. What he did not mention was his conviction for tax fraud, which put him in a federal prison for four months in 1982.
Some of the people who wanted to become involved with Mr. Meyer and his Internet technology took the time to check his background, though it did not stop them from working with him. Others said they looked but did not find his conviction. Many, however, were too eager to join the Internet gold rush to do much more than read the incomplete biography that Mr. Meyer submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission as a routine part of running a publicly traded company.
Mr. Meyer said he did not make a point of mentioning his conviction nor try to hide it. "I don't wear a sign," he said. "Everybody who's ever worked with me knows about my background."
The story of Mr. Meyer's reinvention as an Internet entrepreneur is emblematic of the paradoxes of the technology boom. It may have seemed that a bunch of 24-year- olds were "leveraging" the Internet — to use the vernacular that helped start so many dot-com companies — to take over the business world. But the larger truth is more nuanced and stranger than the notion that Daddy Warbucks invented the New Deal. And now that the boom times are over, Mr. Meyer has a mess on his hands.
At 66 years old, Mr. Meyer comes across like a college drama teacher, theatrical and assured. His approach is: Listen, I'm gonna explain something to you. And he can be very convincing, given the right audience.
When Internet stocks began their run-up, Mr. Meyer was in California and decided to shift his focus from Hollywood to Silicon Valley. In 1999, he used his foundering movie-production company in Los Angeles to create a new-economy start-up and began casting about for something to do.
He first dabbled in satellite Internet access, buying a company called eSat, but switched to Internet image-management after merging with another company, Infolocity. He changed the name of his company — initially the Ventura Motion Picture Group, then the Producers Entertainment Group and most recently the IAT Resources Corporation — to the jazzy-sounding NetCurrents Inc.
The company would use technology developed by Infolocity to monitor Internet chat rooms on behalf of companies willing to pay for the service. At the time, the Internet was so sexy and stock manipulation so worrisome that clients, including big names like Oracle and Office Depot (news/quote), began to line up. Then the Kroll-O'Gara Company (news/quote), the world's most prominent investigation company, signed an exclusive global alliance with NetCurrents to offer enhanced Internet intelligence services to corporations.
NetCurrents' heady early days are but a memory now, and so are many of its clients. It is hard to sell image-protection services to companies that cannot even afford many of their employees anymore. NetCurrents' stock, which traded for as much as $11.94 a share in March 2000, now sells for less than 11 cents. So few people want to buy it that Nasdaq has removed the stock from its market, crippling the company's ability to raise additional cash to cover losses and repay debts. NetCurrents said in its most recent filings with the S.E.C. that it had laid off all its sales representatives and technicians.
Mr. Meyer now spends his days looking for someone to invest more money in the company — and searching the Web for anyone who might be criticizing it, or him.
The company has already sued one man, Victor Holtorf, the former chairman of one of its subsidiaries, for making disparaging remarks about Mr. Meyer on online message boards. They have since settled the suit, though Mr. Holtorf, who still owns stock in the company, said NetCurrents had not met the financial obligations of the settlement. He would not specify the obligations.
Mr. Meyer has overcome financial obstacles before. For example, he and his partner, Stephen R. Friedman, had some difficulty raising their $250,000 contribution to the budget for "Annie," according to a 1977 Washington Post (news/quote) article on the show, though they eventually came up with the money.
At around the same time, the two men shared in sales commissions totaling $4 million, government records say, by selling more than $20 million in tax-sheltered limited partnerships in a coal mining operation. Among the partners who bought in were celebrities like Elvis Presley, Margaux Hemingway and the singer Alice Cooper. Mr. Presley, for example, paid $505,000 and deducted $2.6 million from his taxable income for 1976.
But the S.E.C. filed a civil complaint against Mr. Meyer, Mr. Friedman and others on Sept. 21, 1978, contesting the partners' rights to any coal under a piece of property around Gillette, Wyo. The federal government owned 95 percent of the rights, and that fact cast doubt on the profits and tax benefits that Mr. Meyer and his partners had promised the investors, the S.E.C. said.
In 1980, Mr. Meyer and Mr. Friedman were indicted in a federal criminal complaint based on the coal mining partnerships. Both men eventually pleaded guilty to conspiring to assist in the preparation and filing of false income tax returns and were sentenced to prison. Mr. Meyer entered Federal Prison Camp Allenwood in Montgomery, Pa., on March 1, 1982, and was released on July 16, 1982.
The "Annie" company disassociated itself from the two men, and Mr. Meyer's lawyer, Martin R. Gold, said at the time that his client was "finished in the entertainment business," according to the archives of United Press International.
After regaining his freedom, however, Mr. Meyer moved to California, where he spent 16 years producing commercials and television programs. His company received production fees for the program "Dave's World" and for the movie "What's Love Got to Do With It?"
When Mr. Meyer turned his attention to the Internet, the most important part of his transformation was to buy Infolocity, a company run by James J. Cerna Jr., who is listed as an inventor of the technology used by NetCurrents.
To promote the company's services, Mr. Meyer appeared on the CNBC program "Power Lunch" in March 2000. "We have found in recent months, and I guess growing on a daily basis, an enormous amount of information and misinformation coming across the Net," he said on the program. Three days later, the company said it had closed a private placement of its stock, raising $8.5 million.
Before the summer was out, Mr. Meyer's reinvention as an Internet fraud expert received an impressive stamp of approval when Kroll-O'Gara teamed up its Risk Consulting Services division with NetCurrents — in the process, receiving warrants to buy 5 percent of NetCurrents' stock.
At the time, there was no mention of Mr. Meyer's conviction for fraud, but Jules Kroll, chairman of Kroll-O'Gara, said in a recent interview that his company knew about it.
"We did exhaustive due diligence on the company, technology, directors, management and in particular the somewhat colorful history of its C.E.O.," Mr. Kroll said. "You can imagine, given what we do for a living, it was an issue for us."
He added, "I do believe in redemption, under certain circumstances."
Mr. Meyer said that he told Mr. Kroll about his jail term.
"It would be foolish of me to go into business with the world's largest investigation business that has a division that checks people's backgrounds and assume that they're not going to check my background," Mr. Meyer said.
But others did not learn of the conviction until long after they went into business with him.
Mr. Cerna said that his lawyer had investigated Mr. Meyer's background and never found the conviction. "To get in the position he's in now, he's found a way to hide it," Mr. Cerna said. "You would think, in the spirit, he should disclose that. We had no intention to get involved with anyone that has a history of fraud."
Several customers also said they were unaware of Mr. Meyer's conviction, though they said they were pleased with the service.
"It was immensely valuable to us," said Jennifer Glass, a vice president at Oracle. "We would get a heads-up on rumors and general sentiment about Oracle within the online community."
Ms. Glass and Lauren Garvey, a spokeswoman for Office Depot, said, however, that NetCurrents had discontinued its service to them without explanation.
Mr. Meyer said that he felt obligated to his shareholders. They want him to do what he has always done when he found a new business idea, like the little orphan girl, the tax shelters and the Internet security blanket.
"They're looking for me to secure another round of financing," he said.

ZiaSun Selects NetCurrents' CyberFacts Service
SOLANA BEACH, Calif., Jun 15, 2000 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ZiaSun Technologies, Inc.
(OTCBB:ZSUN), an emerging Internet technology holding company, today announced
it has selected NetCurrents, the Premier Internet Intelligence Agency's (Nasdaq:
NTCS) CyberFacts real-time Internet monitoring and analysis service to monitor
Internet information regarding the Company.
Using proprietary, real-time technology, CyberFacts tracks and monitors an
extensive universe of targeted Internet locations, message boards,
e-publications, newsgroups and other sources for posted information on public
companies. The resulting data is analyzed by NetCurrents' team of Internet
strategists, who categorize the information, identify and assess perception
sentiment, provide real-time notification of potential critical information,
provide daily online graphical reports on a secured client portal and develop
strategies to counter misinformation or fraudulent postings.
Using CyberFacts, ZiaSun monitors market perceptions about itself while tracking
information associated with ZiaSun stock trading activity, corporate news,
products and services.
Al Hardman, ZiaSun's President and Chief Executive Officer stated, "As an
emerging Internet-technology holding company, we recognize the value of
monitoring the Internet content regarding our business. We are also well aware
of the voluminous false or misleading information being disseminated through
various chat rooms daily. We believe CyberFacts will provide the necessary
research and intelligence that will allow us to maintain accurate information
regarding our company across the World Wide Web. The Company will use the
information provided by CyberFacts to help protect our reputation and preserve
shareholder value."
About ZiaSun Technologies, Inc.
ZiaSun Technologies, Inc. is a leading Internet technology holding company
focused on international investor education and e-commerce and specialized
online support services within North America, Asia and other international
markets. The Company's portfolio includes: Online Investors Advantage
(, Momentum Asia, Inc. (, ServiceLive
(, Momentum Internet, Inc. (, PINmail
(, MEDIAhits (, Swiftrade (,
AsiaEnet Ltd. (, Tigertooth (, Search Dragon
(, M Finance ( - a top-100 financial Web
site), and a 19% equity position in Asia4Sale (
About NetCurrents, Inc.
NetCurrents, The Premier Internet Intelligence Agency, analyzes communications
from an extensive universe of targeted Internet locations in real-time. The
Company provides clients with critical information and counsel to protect their
corporate image, measure consumers' perceptions and counter misinformation on
the Internet. For more information, visit
Safe Harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995: Except for historical information, the matters discussed in this news
release that my be considered forward-looking statements could be subject to
certain risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ
materially from those projected. These include uncertainties in the market,
competition, legal, success of marketing efforts and other risks detailed from
time to time in the company's SEC reports. The company assumes no obligation to
update the information in this release.
CONTACT: ZiaSun Technologies, Inc., Solana Beach
Shareholder Services
Michelle Cutting, 858/350-4060
Continental Capital & Equity Corporation
Broker/Investor Relations
Bruce Elliott, 407/682-2001
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- No Position; ST Rating- Hold; LT Rating- Strong Sell)

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From: RavenTree7/15/2005 1:12:58 PM
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Since ADOT couldn't silence me with 3 SLAPP suits they decided to get me yanked off Raging Bull. My Hestia17 screen name was blocked yesterday and all my posts removed. (Athena_Sword was blocked back in January but the posts were still viewable; now those are gone as well.) ADOT posters had been "warning" me about posting all that embarrassing stuff about ADOT's association with Allen Wolfson. Predicatably pumpers on ADOT are ecstatic. It seems that my constant posting of ADOT's association with the likes of Wolfson and the fact that Wolfson's Feng Shui consulting was the registrant of Biomoda's SB2 was interfering with their pump.

By: soldthefoodstamps
15 Jul 2005, 09:52 AM EDT
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hoping to see a nice bouce on the news of the capture of hestia17/athena-sword, aka "ADOT Serial Basher"....

Good things has come to ADOT...

Blessings received by all...

Of course there is no recourse for the mere poster when a company decides to have a poster removed. It's been said before, but it would be great to have some sort of investigation of Raging Bull to see if and how they are complicit with pumps.

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From: the_worm067/15/2005 4:26:25 PM
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Who is SADECO, INC.?

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To: mmmary who wrote (8650)7/15/2005 5:06:44 PM
From: kknightmcc
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The facts are that Kathy did not yet appeal. Kathy filed a Motion for Reconsideration which was denied on Jurisdiction alone. Mary, you can't even get your facts straight on this.

Had you actually written your own documents as you swore to the court, you would have known the difference between a motion for reconsideration and a formal appeal. You obviously did not. You lied about writing your own documents just like you lied about so many other things.

The case was not dismissed in such a manner that I can not file again or in another court. I have other options to consider. But I will not give you any clues as to what my next move might be. Stew on that for a while.

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To: the_worm06 who wrote (8686)7/16/2005 12:50:29 AM
From: Mighty_Mezz
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It's listed here:
Sadeco, INC.
Products/Services : Atmospheric water generation units, solar powered products, security related products

that listing links to this:
Sadeco, INC.

About Us
We are agents for multiple companies located around the world dealing in high tech products that are unique to most of the world.

In that endeavor, we are looking for partners to bring these products into local areas to market and support these products.
Contact Information
Company Name: Sadeco, INC.
Contact Person: Mr Rolando Sablon

Address: 407 Lincoln Rd Ste 12F, Miami Beach, Florida, United States
Zip: 33139
Telephone: 1 305 6728737
Fax: 1 305 6750521

Well *that's* a bit odd. With such a convenient address, perhaps it's an acquisition target. LOL

I see the domain is for sale. Odd they haven't bought it.
Is this "company" in the process of appearing or in the process of disappearing?

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To: Mighty_Mezz who wrote (8688)7/16/2005 3:09:22 AM
From: the_worm06
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Mighty Mezz....excellent work.......must remember you for the next senior research position opening in the_worm06 Research Department.

somehow the name of the individual and the address sound familiar....can't yet place it though...

some help here...

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To: olivier asser who wrote (8632)7/16/2005 10:53:57 AM
From: StockDung
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SEC takes close look at brokers At issue is duty to get best price for customers
New York Times
July 15, 2005, 11:01PM

NEW YORK - The Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating whether major brokerage firms are fulfilling their obligation to secure the best price for customers who are trading options, according to a letter sent to Wall Street brokers.

The letter, sent on July 5, says that the SEC is examining whether the practice of payment for order flow — brokers and exchanges paying retail trading firms for their orders — violates a broker's fiduciary duty to secure "best execution," a vague term which essentially defines getting the best deal for a customer.

The investigation is focused on options trading, an area that is less transparent than stock trading.

"Does the firm receive payment for order flow or any other inducement to route options orders to a particular market?" the letter reads.

SEC officials declined to comment on the letter.

The investigation is one among many under way by the SEC to ensure that brokers give their customers a fair shake.

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From: dacoola7/16/2005 9:02:29 PM
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Been banned from that thread and I am not one of Hillary's greatest admirers but she got this right...believe me, I have seen it:

Message 21511821

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To: StockDung who wrote (8690)7/17/2005 5:19:40 AM
From: olivier asser
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The investigation is one among many under way by the SEC to ensure that brokers give their customers a fair shake.

SNL skit?

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To: Mighty_Mezz who wrote (8688)7/17/2005 11:19:08 AM
From: scion
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Air2Water LLC is currently seeking distributors for many territories and regions worldwide. The map below shows territories where agreements exist, as well as areas in which distribution opportunities still exist. Air2Water holds the only patent on re-circulation of water derived from dehumidification. The Air2Water water generation machine keeps water fresh by re-circulating water through a series of filters, ensuring that your drinking water is always pure and contaminant free.

Air2Water LLC holds all of the patent rights pertaining to the Air2Water water generation machine, including four U.S. patents and one U.S patent pending. We also hold patents in most industrialized nations of the world covered through PCT, European patents under the European Patent Treaty and patents in other individual countries. These patents are the foundation on which Air2Water has developed its business. Air2Water LLC and Hyflux have entered into a joint venture for the manufacture and distribution of Air2Water water generation machines worldwide. The machines are currently manufactured in Singapore and China under license.

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