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To: Wally Mastroly who wrote (2435)9/2/1999 5:51:00 PM
From: Wally Mastroly   of 3224
 
Another article on the 3rd Qtr charge - with analyst estimate:


quote.bloomberg.com 

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To: steve dietrich who wrote (2425)9/8/1999 8:34:00 AM
From: larry larsen   of 3224
 
Hi Steve,
Just returned from 10 days of geyser gazing at Yellowstone. Glad to see ratification of the contract by the IAM workers. I think it's good for the workers and the company. BA is attempting to initiate significant productivity improvements. Everything I've read on re-engineering the corporation emphasizes the importance of rewarding the surviving workforce. I think this contract does that. The notion that companies can operate under the draconian rules of the past is foolish, of course, even though arrogance and greed may tempt an over ambitious management to try from time to time. Glad to see it not happen at Boeing (yet).

It looks like BA won a nice contract today for government spy satellites re: biz.yahoo.com 
I don't know what it's going to take to get this stock to break out of its current range, however. I haven't noticed a correlation between contract announcements and changes in the price of the stock.

Larry

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To: Larry T. Sherwood who wrote (2433)9/8/1999 3:09:00 PM
From: Larry T. Sherwood   of 3224
 
OT-

Those who affected outrage at my suggestion that labor unions in this country might be guilty of thuggery might do well to read the following, which I have excerpted and paraphrased from an editorial in today's WSJ. I would note I have not known the IAM to engage in these activities.


Former UPS driver Rod Carter's Labor and his wife filed suit against his former union--the Teamsters--in circuit court in Florida alleging civil conspiracy, racketeering, & assault and battery. Defendants include the Teamsters' local, its officers, as well as the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.

Mr. Carter, a one-time linebacker for a Miami Hurricanes
national championship team, was a UPS truck driver at the time of the 1997 strike. After considering the issue, he opted to work. As he told the local paper at the time, "They have the right to strike and I have the right to work. My family is more important than a union or UPS."

While driving his truck, Mr. Carter was assaulted by several members of his union, Teamsters Local 769. Pulling the door open, they jumped him and stabbed him several times with an ice pick. One of the assailants, Benigno Rojas, ended up serving a year in jail for aggravated battery and criminal mischief, following a plea bargain. Others agreed to probationary periods.

But there was no trial, and so the question of union complicity in the violence was never aired. This has proved a critical omission. Though what happened to other targets of union wrath was not as spectacular or frightening as what happened to Carter, dozens of others were instances of harassed by members of Local 769 during the UPS strike.

Things will be different in Mr. Carter's civil case. On the night before the attack on Mr. Carter, his wife received a threatening phone call from a stranger named "Benny"--the nickname of one of the assailants, Benigno Rojas. Mr. Carter's lawyers at the National Right to Work Legal Foundation will have a chance to present phone records showing that, at around the same time, a call was placed to the Carter house from the home of the president of Teamster Local 769, Anthony Cannestro.

Mr. Carter's lawyers also have a sworn deposition from Rolando Pina, an officer and employee of Local 769. The deposition reveals that the local reimbursed all six of Mr.
Carter's assailants for the bail they put up. Mr. Pina says the union did that because leadership had told members at the strike's outset that "if they were arrested we would bail them out." ... Another worker reported that "the union representative[s] were encouraging teamster member[s] to use UPS violence toward employees that crossed the picket line." Still another, a driver, said of a union leader, "In my personal opinion he was instigating members to commit crime." There are many similar statements, including one by a man who says union leaders were "encouraging the members to take a violent approach against anyone who crossed the picket line."

One reason Mr. Carter and other drivers found themselves vulnerable during the UPS strike was that union chiefs know all too well that many acts of union violence or abuse are
unlikely ever to go to trial. Unfortunately, that also means they never get the airing they deserve. If we are to change this, a thorough court review of any union role in the ugly attack on Mr. Carter would be a healthy first step.

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To: steve dietrich who wrote (2425)9/9/1999 4:22:00 PM
From: Marvin L.Covey   of 3224
 
I would say we got a good contract Steve.. I like the 25 % increase in retirement.. Would like to see that a few more times and we might catch the Teamsters..I am out of Boeing stock right now.. sold 30% of the vip on the little pop we had on a monday before we voted on the contract. It had been up 2 point that day during the day..I got 15/16..It was up the next day a little so I wish I would have waited a day..The market is playing with 11,000 so the unions have not ruined the country just yet. Have a high school friend that is retiring at 50 from Ford in K.C. in March. they have 80 and out.. age + service time.. he will have 30 years in. His name is steve also.

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To: Marvin L.Covey who wrote (2439)9/9/1999 8:09:00 PM
From: steve dietrich   of 3224
 
I'm satisfied with the contract too, just hope I'm around to enjoy it (don't get laid off. So what is your re-entry point?

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To: steve dietrich who wrote (2440)9/10/1999 7:00:00 AM
From: dogman   of 3224
 
If your in a grade 6 or above you got no increase in your retirement after year 3.

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To: steve dietrich who wrote (2440)9/10/1999 8:20:00 AM
From: Marvin L.Covey   of 3224
 
I would put 10% back in Boeing below 44.50. May have missed it once this week.. Earning come out in Oct. may be bad.. righting off $225 million on F-15.

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To: steve dietrich who wrote (2440)9/11/1999 10:51:00 AM
From: larry larsen   of 3224
 
Anyone,
On another thread (sgi), a web site was referenced that tracks institutional activity:
thomsoninvest.net 
By plugging in BA in the "enter ticker" field, you apparently get what is referred to as buy and sell interest on the part of traders and institutions. This is new to me, but it seems that there was significant institutional interest on the buy side on Friday. Does anyone have an opinion on what to make of it and do you have a history of using such data?
Larry

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To: larry larsen who wrote (2443)9/14/1999 11:05:00 AM
From: Wally Mastroly   of 3224
 
Phil likes 2001 prospects:


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To: Wally Mastroly who wrote (2444)9/20/1999 6:12:00 AM
From: Neil H   of 3224
 



September 20, 1999


Boeing to Proceed With Building
Bigger 747 Jet in Airbus Face Off
By JEFF COLE
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


Boeing Co. Chairman Phil Condit expects that the company will go ahead with development of a bigger 747 jumbo jet, setting the stage for a heated fight with rival Airbus Industrie in the controversial market segment.

Mr. Condit also expects that Airbus ultimately will proceed with its own planned giant new airliner, the A-3XX, which is being proposed to major airlines. The consortium also has begun lining up low-cost loans from European governments to assist with development.

Airbus Industrie Gets Two Big Orders Valued at $3.1 Billion for New Jetliner

The statements, made during an interview, are Mr. Condit's first indication that he believes both companies will proceed with the costly projects, in a market segment where the manufacturers' assessments of future demand are strikingly different. For years, Boeing officials have spoken in very hedged terms about whether they expect either plane to be developed.

In the interview, Mr. Condit said he expects Boeing to proceed with development of its new 747 version "sometime in the next two years," a timeline that would make the jet available a year or two before the first A-3XX delivery. Boeing officials decline to discuss the development cost of the new 747, but they have indicated that the amount is likely to be a fraction of the A-3XX cost.

The list price for existing 747-400 planes ranges as high as $197 million. Airbus hopes to sell its A-3XX for $200 million each.

Risks for Both Companies

Assuming both plane makers proceed with their projects, the next few years will bring a pitched battle for sales of new "superjumbo" jets. And there are risks involved for both companies.

Airbus could suffer financially if it fails to sell enough of its planes to justify development costs of $10 billion or more. Boeing, meanwhile, risks losing its dominance of a most-profitable market share, if the new Airbus plane is particularly successful.

Boeing's existing 747-400 is by far the biggest passenger aircraft made by either company, with seats for about 400 passengers in a three-class arrangement.

Officials of the European Airbus consortium, including Managing Director Noel Forgeard, are convinced their new "A-3XX" jetliner will be in demand by carriers and will flesh out the lineup of airplane sizes they offer. The double-deck aircraft, seating 555 to 655 passengers in various versions, is expected to be formally offered to airlines next year. If enough firm orders are gathered, first deliveries would be set for 2005, according to Airbus Vice President Phillipe Jarry.

The '747-X Stretch'

Boeing previously had concluded there is insufficient demand to warrant the huge investment needed to develop an all-new jumbo jet, based on years of market studies that it conducted. But Mr. Condit said it appears there is enough demand among 747 operators to justify development of a new 747 version called the "747-X Stretch," which would carry 500 passengers more than 7,500 nautical miles. That distance, enough to fly routes such as Los Angeles to Singapore, roughly matches the range for some planned versions of the new Airbus plane.

Mr. Condit said there is a market for the Airbus plane and "they will sell some. No question about it."

Analysts say any Boeing offer of a bigger and longer-range 747 could undermine some demand for the A-3XX. Mr. Condit said Boeing's final decision won't be based on that consideration, relying instead on the finding that enough demand exists for Boeing's new variant.

A U.S. spokesman for Airbus said a new Boeing 747 could reduce demand for the consortium's jetliner, but airlines still will demand a new-technology jet to replace the basic 747 design conceived in the 1960s.

The two manufacturers have chosen distinctly differing paths because of their disparate assessments of future trends in aircraft demand.

'Fragmentation' Phenomenon

In trans-Atlantic travel, airlines have sharply scaled back the use of 747s, favoring big two-engine planes such as the Boeing 767 and the Airbus A-340 that can be more easily filled and flown with greater frequency. Some Boeing officials believe the phenomenon, known as "fragmentation," will hold true as the trans-Pacific market matures.

Boeing forecasts that international carriers will increasingly fly routes that bypass congested "hub" airports, choosing instead to fly directly between city pairs with big 300-seat planes such as the two-engine Boeing 777 and four-engine A-340.

Airbus's Mr. Forgeard has said such fragmentation will continue, but so will expanded demand for huge passenger and cargo planes to fly between hub airports such as London or Hong Kong.

Airlines want sharp gains in operating efficiency from the new planes. For either aircraft to win orders, renewed demand for big planes from Asia must solidify. Slack demand from Asia has slowed 747 production during the past two years.

Regards

Neil

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