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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (1805)3/20/2001 4:58:41 AM
From: Elroy   of 2110
 
Dwight, you understand in accounting that goodwill is just the amount over the acquired company's book value that ARBA paid to acquire another company, right? You can't sell it, it is just an accounting term. It doesn't mean that there is a good feeling between any customers, it just means ARBA bought another company for more than the other company's book value.

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To: Elroy who wrote (1807)3/21/2001 3:11:58 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen   of 2110
 
>you understand in accounting that goodwill is just the amount over the acquired company's book value that ARBA paid to acquire another company, right?< Yes, I understand that.
>You can't sell it, it is just an accounting term.< Of course you cannot sell just the goodwill, the whole company gets sold.
>It doesn't mean that there is a good feeling between any customers, it just means ARBA bought another company for more than the other company's book value.< Right, that is purchased goodwill. But I'm sure that ARBA has goodwill that is their own, since they do have an active client base, and as can be seen in the press releases, they have a steady stream of new clients.

So it doesn't matter to me whether Ariba has goodwill on the books (i.e. purchased goodwill) or not; they themselves have goodwill that is intrinsic to Ariba Corp. In any case, I don't think Ariba's business outlook is as grim as all that, that a person has to start wondering what the buyout value would be. As I stated before, I have for a long while admired the product that Ariba sells, and as long as intelligent business-people are running Ariba, they should have growing sales and earnings for a long time, both domestically and internationally. If the top brass at Ariba make too many blunders, then the company has enough market worth (including its own goodwill) to garner a price not significantly lower than where the stock is right now, and most likely higher. IMO.

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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (1808)3/21/2001 8:28:20 AM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
Dwight, thanks for posting. I was beginning to think a neutron bomb had hit the thread. Determining a bottom is no simple job. I think your $10.75 is a good price regardless. Since this is not a convenient time for me to buy, I'm trying to read and understand the competition. CommerceOne posted a strong 4th quarter, and people were claiming that CMRC had overtaken Ariba as the industry leader. I have also read comments that this is a "winner take all" industry. My understanding is that Ariba is weak in "direct procurement" which I believe refers to raw materials. But there was some comment (from management?) that Ariba will making announcements in that area. Comments are welcome. Regards, Suzanne P.S. I have read that the split-adjusted IPO price was $5.75. SN

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1809)3/21/2001 1:34:16 PM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
Milberg Weiss Announces Class Action Suit Against Ariba, Inc.
NEW YORK , NY, Mar 21, 2001 (INTERNET WIRE via COMTEX) -- The law firm of Milberg Weiss Bershad Hynes & Lerach LLP announces that a class action lawsuit was filed on March 20, 2001, on behalf of purchasers of the securities of Ariba, Inc. ("Ariba or the "Company") (NASDAQ: ARBA chart, msgs) between June 23, 1999 and December 23, 1999 inclusive. A copy of the complaint filed in this action is available from the Court, or can be viewed on Milberg Weiss' website at: www.milberg.com/ariba/

The action, numbered 01 Civ. 2359, is pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, located at 500 Pearl Street, New York, NY 10007, against defendants Ariba, Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated ("Morgan Stanley"); Keith J. Krach and Edward P. Kinsey. The Honorable John S. Martin Jr. is the Judge presiding over the case.

The complaint alleges violations of Sections 11, 12(a)(2) and 15 of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and Rule 10b-5 promulgated thereunder. On June 23, 1999, Ariba commenced an initial public offering of 5 million of its shares of common stock at an offering price of $23 per share (the "Ariba IPO"). In connection therewith, Ariba filed a registration statement, which incorporated a prospectus (the "Prospectus"), with the SEC. The complaint further alleges that the Prospectus was materially false and misleading because it failed to disclose, among other things, that: (i) Morgan Stanley had solicited and received excessive and undisclosed commissions from certain investors in exchange for which Morgan Stanley allocated to those investors material portions of the restricted number of Ariba shares issued in connection with the Ariba IPO; and (ii) Morgan Stanley had entered into agreements with customers whereby Morgan Stanley agreed to allocate Ariba shares to those customers in the Ariba IPO in exchange for which the customers agreed to purchase additional Ariba shares in the aftermarket at pre-determined prices. As alleged in the complaint, the SEC is investigating underwriting practices in connection with several other initial public offerings.

If you bought the securities of Ariba between June 23, 1999 and December 23, 1999 you may, no later than May 21, 2001, request that the Court appoint you as lead plaintiff in this action. A lead plaintiff is a representative party that acts on behalf of other class members in directing the litigation. In order to be appointed lead plaintiff, the Court must determine that the class member's claim is typical of the claims of other class members, and that the class member will adequately represent the class. Under certain circumstances, one or more class members may together serve as "lead plaintiff." Your ability to share in any recovery is not, however, affected by the decision whether or not to serve as a lead plaintiff. You may retain Milberg Weiss Bershad Hynes & Lerach LLP, or other counsel of your choice, to serve as your counsel in this action.

Milberg Weiss Bershad Hynes & Lerach LLP, a 170-lawyer firm with offices in New York City, San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Boca Raton, Seattle and Philadelphia, is active in major litigations pending in federal and state courts throughout the United States. Milberg Weiss has taken a leading role in many important actions on behalf of defrauded investors, consumers, and companies, as well as victims of World War II and other human rights violations, and has been responsible for more than $30 billion in aggregate recoveries. The Milberg Weiss Web site (www.milberg.com) has more information about the firm.

If you wish to discuss this action with us, or have any questions concerning this notice or your rights and interests with regard to the case, please contact the following attorneys:

Steven G. Schulman or Samuel H. Rudman One Pennsylvania Plaza, 49th fl., New York, NY, 10119-0165

CONTACT: Steven G. Schulman
800-320-5081

Samuel H. Rudman
800-320-5081

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1809)3/21/2001 3:24:18 PM
From: Spytrdr   of 2110
 
it's well below ipo price
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To: Spytrdr who wrote (1811)3/21/2001 7:15:27 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh   of 2110
 
ARBA IPO was priced at $23.00 or split adjusted $5.75. However it opened at $61.00 (split adjusted $15.25) and closed at $90.00 on the first day of trading.

chart.yahoo.com 

It is still trading above its IPO price but below the price at which it began trading.

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To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (1812)3/21/2001 7:39:16 PM
From: Spytrdr   of 2110
 
that's the price that matters.



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To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (1812)3/22/2001 8:00:19 AM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
High costs seen deterring buyers from joining online exchanges
NEW YORK, March 21 (Reuters) - Online electronic exchanges sprung to life with promises of billions of dollars in cost savings, but a report released on Wednesday said firms won't be able to reap those benefits until they have spent millions of dollars on new software and integrating different systems.

The report from Forrester Research focused on purchasing executives, some of the key people calling the electronic commerce shots inside organizations.

"While the promise of lowering the cost of goods entices buyers, e-marketplace participation won't come cheap," the report said.

On average, companies will spend an estimated $5.4 million to $22.9 million each over the next five years getting themselves connected to exchanges, the report said.

Software vendors such as Commerce One Inc. (NASDAQ:CMRC), Ariba Inc. (NASDAQ:ARBA), i2 Technologies Inc. (NASDAQ:ITWO) and Oracle Corp. (NASDAQ:ORCL) are among the companies that stand to benefit most from the growth in online transactions, which Boston-based AMR Research predicts will surge to $1.2 trillion in 2002 from $581 billion this year.

But in order to capture the benefits of the exchanges, firms will have to invest heavily in four key areas, said Boston-based Forrester.

Companies will have to change their internal purchasing processes, integrate electronic exchanges with their own internal software, buy business-to-business software and pay transaction fees for buying the goods online.

"E-marketplaces offer significant opportunities for buyers to lower prices and streamline buying processes," said Forrester analyst Matthew Sanders, who added that on average firms expect their online buying efforts to cut costs by 4 percent this year, doubling to 8 percent by 2003.

"But these buyers aren't blindly enthusiastic," Sanders said. "More than half of the purchasing executives we interviewed acknowledge that in-house adoption hurdles like user-level resistance might delay their savings."

Forrester, which interviewed 50 executives from Fortune 1000 companies, said so-called baseline buyers, who use exchanges to purchase simple operational goods such as basic office supplies, will spend $5.6 million to get connected.

Companies using exchanges in a more sophisticated way, to buy raw materials to lower their inventory costs for example, will spend $10.7 million.

Those firms using online marketplaces to manage all of their procurement activities will spend $22.9 million.

As well as cost, the lack of suppliers signed up to exchanges was a prohibitive factor for buyers thinking of purchasing online, said Josh Greenbaum, principal of Daly City, Calif.-based Enterprise Applications Consulting.

"Who wants to go to a market that has nothing on the shelf?" Greenbaum said.

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1814)3/22/2001 10:13:54 AM
From: Luce Wildebeest   of 2110
 
Looks like we should have been doing the research Forrester did before buying into this 'story'

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To: Spytrdr who wrote (1769)3/22/2001 10:27:34 AM
From: Spytrdr   of 2110
 
that was a good one, eh?
short AMGN (among others) since $ 73, it's at $ 48 now and going down fast




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