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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1796)3/15/2001 2:31:34 PM
From: Anthony Tsai   of 2110
 
Why would the firm still maintain a buy rating? If what they say is true about Ariba missing earnings, they probably won't downgrade the stock until after Ariba reports the bad earnings. That's the way how Wall Street works. Most analysts don't downgrade the stock until after the news is out. That way, the firm has the opportunity to unload some stock before the downgrade. And after the downgrade, they can buy it back cheaper. It's kind of sad to the small investor, but that's what happens everyday.

Anthony

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To: Anthony Tsai who wrote (1797)3/17/2001 10:06:46 AM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
I am trying to choose an entry point to this stock. Earlier, before there was so much talk about B2B companies disappointing and ARBA was falling like a rock, I thought ARBA was being punished because of the sector it was in. Under that scenario, one might conclude that the bad news was already in the stock. Now that analysts are downgrading the B2B stocks, Ariba may not have found its bottom. Inertia and procrastination appear to be the best approach right now.

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To: Mohan Marette who started this subject3/17/2001 10:40:01 AM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
This is from a Robertson Stephens PR (3/16/01) in which they changed their opinions on numerous stocks.
· Ariba, Inc.
· (Nasdaq: ARBA - news) $11.06
· Buy
· F2001E EPS: $0.18, down from $0.25
· F2002E EPS: $0.38, down from $0.47

Eric Upin, Business-to-Business eCommerce

``With an increasingly challenging economic environment for enterprise software sales we believe that even the best positioned business software companies are increasingly vulnerable to a major retrenchment in IT spending,'' said Upin. ``As a result, we are taking a first cut at lowering earnings estimates for Ariba, Commerce One, and i2 -- yet, are cognizant of the fact that, depending on the severity and duration of the current economic downturn, additional downward revisions may be in order. While we continue to believe that B2B represents a significant multi-year opportunity -- which over the next several years is likely to be 4-6x the $20 billion ERP market -- we believe Ariba continues to face a challenging near-term risk reward picture for the reasons highlighted above. In order for us to become more aggressive on Ariba, we will need to achieve a higher level of confidence that: (1) there is not significant downside to our revised estimates, (2) the company's core indirect goods procurement business remains solid, (3) Ariba will be able to translate its newly announced direct goods strategy into actual customer wins, and (4) the company will be able to integrate its fourth acquisition in 18 months (Tradex, Trading Dynamics, Supplier Market and Agile).''

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1796)3/17/2001 10:59:17 AM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
Thursday March 8, 5:40 pm Eastern Time
Ariba CFO says Q1 deals going down to the wire
NEW YORK, March 8 (Reuters) - Ariba Inc.'s (NasdaqNM:ARBA - news) chief financial officer on Thursday said demand for the company's products remained strong but cautioned that a slowdown of sales in January could mean the electronic business software vendor has more deals than usual to finalize by the end of the first quarter.

Speaking at a technology conference in New York, Robert Calderoni said that 60 percent to 65 percent of Ariba's business is typically done in the third month of every quarter.

But citing tough economic pressures and a slowdown in information technology spending, Calderoni said that percentage would most likely be higher this quarter.

``In this quarter in particular it could be a few points higher than that because January was soft,'' Calderoni said, referring to slower-than-normal sales of its software during the first month of 2001.

``Despite the fact there remains strong demand ... the $64,000 question is how many of those deals will close this quarter?''

The question prompted one participant to express concern.

``Sixty to 65 percent,'' the man called out during a question and answer session being held at a conference hosted by analyst firm Merrill Lynch. ``That's a very high hockey stick isn't it?, even for a software company.''

But Calderoni downplayed the statement.

``That's not atypical,'' he said. ``With Oracle's announcement last week, it's too early in the quarter for us to say, but March will be a telling month.''

Last week, Oracle Corp.(NasdaqNM:ORCL - news) surprised Wall Street by saying it would miss analysts'expectations for its 2001 first quarter, citing a reduction in spending amid fears of a slowing U.S economy.

Calderoni's comments come a day after the chief executive of rival Commerce One Inc. (NasdaqNM:CMRC - news), Mark Hoffman, said his company still had to finalize more than 50 percent of its software license deals for the first quarter.

The shares of both Ariba and Commerce One closed at new 52-week lows on Nasdaq. Ariba closed down $1-3/4, or 11 percent, at $13-5/8 and far off its year-high of $183-5/16. Commerce One closed down $2-1/2, or nearly 16 percent, also at $13-5/8 and far from its year-high of $137-13/16.

Hoffman said that while Commerce One's business remained strong, the software vendor was not immune to the economic pressure being felt by giants like Oracle.

Tom Berquist, an analyst with brokerage firm Goldman Sachs, said he thought Ariba and Commerce One would both post gloomy first quarter numbers, but no more gloomy than any other software application vendor.

``I feel the same way about Commerce One and Ariba as I do about all the vendors in the application software space,'' he said. ``They're all back-end loaded and they have to get the purchase orders signed by the CFO by the end of the quarter, and that isn't going to be easy.''

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1800)3/17/2001 11:49:53 AM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
This is from the Mar.9 Lehman Bros. downgrade: "Finally, Walravens said that i2 Technologies Inc.'s (NasdaqNM:ITWO - news) recent purchase of Rightworks will take market share away from Commerce One and affect Ariba even more severely. I2 is the No. 1 seller of ``e-procurement'' software that enables companies to manage and automate their purchasing and inventory. The acquisition of Rightworks allows i2 to offer software that to set up B2B online exchanges and buy finished goods and raw materials over the Internet -- Ariba's domain."

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1801)3/17/2001 12:28:06 PM
From: Suzanne Newsome   of 2110
 
Ariba-Agile Deal Still in the Works -- For a Fraction of the Price
By Joe Bousquin
Senior Writer
3/13/01 8:11 AM ET




There may be no better illustration of the carnage in software stocks than Ariba's (ARBA:Nasdaq - news) proposed acquisition of Agile Software (AGIL:Nasdaq - news). Six weeks ago it was valued at $2.55 billion. Today, the all-stock deal is worth just $721 million.

Even more telling, though, is that the deal is still likely to close. Maybe it's because neither company really has many other options at this point, or it may be due to the added pressure that i2 Technologies' (ITWO:Nasdaq - news) proposed acquisition of RightWorks puts on them both.

The recent rash of mergers and partnerships in the industry means both companies need to expand the scope of their software offerings to compete. They are up against beefed-up rivals, such as the new i2 and the partnership of Commerce One (CMRC:Nasdaq - news) and SAP (SAP:NYSE ADR - news). Ariba makes software that lets companies buy supplies over the Internet. Agile makes software that helps companies collaborate, in real time, on joint projects. While both of those areas have seen significant growth in recent years, each is regarded as somewhat of a niche within the software industry, and the companies are perceived as being stronger together than they are alone.

Agile also has very little wiggle room under the terms of the contract. There's no collar on the deal, which means that Agile can't back out because of a drop in Ariba's stock price. Then there's the $110 million walk-away fee that Agile would have to pay if it balked now.

When the deal was announced Jan. 30, Ariba's stock was worth $40. Today, it's at $11.31, 72% lower. Agile's stock hasn't fared much better. It's off 65% since the deal was announced.

In other terms, Agile's market cap was just north of $2 billion when the deal was announced, and Ariba's offer amounted to a $550 million premium for Agile's shareholders. At the time, analysts derided Ariba for paying such a high price for Agile, and Ariba executives were on the defensive to explain it.

But based on Ariba's closing price on Monday, Ariba is now getting a bargain. On Monday the deal only had a $721 million price tag, or just $4 million more than Agile's current market cap. In Wall Street's eyes, that amounts to little more than a rounding error.

Bryan Stolle, Agile's CEO, says the unfortunate drops in respective share prices aside, the deal is going through.

"When you're doing a stock-to-stock deal, it's always a moving target," Stolle says. "This wasn't done for a short-term impact. This was all about what do we think will be strategic over the next five to 10 years. When you put Ariba and Agile together, you really get scale."

Analysts say the deal will go through because it's the best thing Agile has going, especially in light of the on-the-cheap deal that i2 got on RightWorks last week.

"If you're looking at it from Agile's point of view, and what they would get if they went out and found someone else, they still wouldn't get what Ariba's paying," says Jon Ekoniak, an analyst at U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray who rates Ariba a hold. "Agile's still getting seven times their forward revenue. If you look at what RightWorks got -- just two times next year's revenue -- that's still pretty good." (Ekoniak's firm hasn't done underwriting for Ariba.)

Then, there's the competition.

"In this environment, these partnerships and combinations are getting more important for everybody," says Thomas Berquist, an analyst at Goldman, Sachs who rates Ariba a market underperform. "Everyone has raised the bar in terms of the functionality you have to offer. If either Ariba or Agile broke it off, they'd both be alone and flapping in the wind." (Goldman hasn't done banking for Ariba.)

Agile's Stolle concedes that watching the dropping stock prices hasn't been fun. But he also contends that in the long term, the deal will pay off for Agile's shareholders.

"You're never happy when something like that happens," Stolle says. "When you announce a deal, the ideal is that the stock prices stay relatively the same."

Of course, plenty of people weren't too happy with the deal to begin with.

"I was pretty disappointed in the deal," says Chris Bonavico, manager of the Transamerica Premier Aggressive Growth fund, who sold his Agile holdings after the deal was announced. "I believed in Agile as a stand-alone company. I always wondered why they had to take that bid."

Now, it looks like Agile will still be taking that bid. It'll just be a lot smaller than what it originally bargained for.

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To: Suzanne Newsome who wrote (1798)3/20/2001 3:21:24 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen   of 2110
 
>I am trying to choose an entry point to this stock<

I've wanted to own this stock for a long time, but didn't dare on the upswing to its highs, nor did I dare to buy it on its way down. But finally, the doom and gloom in the overall mkt seemed to reach a crescendo last week. And I noticed that, over the last week, ARBA seemed to have found a floor at around $10. Which was a bit below the original IPO price. And according to Yahoo profile page for the stock, "book value" is $12.90. So I figured, what we have here is a bargain, if you believe that what the company is selling is a product with a bright future.

The other thing that made me take the dip this morning, was you know the adage, "three steps and a stumble", referring to the Fed raising interest rates three times, then the market usually stumbles (which it eventually did). Seems to me that the flip-side of that might also hold true: Three cuts, and the market recovers.

Anyway, I put in mkt orders on Sunday night, and they filled Monday at the open for $10.75/shr. I don't have much left of all the money I've lost in this market since 1996, but such as I have, I've put into Ariba. Again it's not a lot so I don't care a whole lot one way or the other. I usually don't follow the market on a daily basis, and I will hold for a minimum of a year, and then I'll re-evaluate.

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Unrelated to the above, here's an interesting tid-bit:

One former manager at Ariba Inc. (NasdaqNM:ARBA - news), based in Mountain View, Calif., based his decision to work for the business-to-business software company almost entirely on the stock option package that was offered to him. He quit for the same reason less than one year later.

Shares of Ariba, which traded at roughly $80 when he joined the company in May 2000, are now hovering around $10. The former manager, who would only speak on condition of anonymity, had been expecting the stock to rebound to its high of $180, bringing him a $1 million windfall.

``I didn't know if the stock was ever going to get back up to $180 and I couldn't pin my career on that,'' he said. ``I think there are other people in that kind of position.''

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biz.yahoo.com 

I wonder what glorious company he found to work at, so he could make his million that he feels he so deserves? Poor guy. I should send him some money.

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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (1803)3/20/2001 3:42:36 AM
From: Elroy   of 2110
 
And according to Yahoo profile page for the stock, "book value" is $12.90.

About 80% of ARBA's assets on their previous quarterly report were just goodwill, so I wouldn't get too excited about the "book value". If worst comes to worst, they are going to have a hard time selling off their goodwill :-)

Elroy

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To: Elroy who wrote (1804)3/20/2001 4:02:26 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen   of 2110
 
Point taken. And no, I'm not too excited about the book value thing. However, goodwill does have resale value, if it comes to that, particularly when there is an installed base of clients who use the products that were sold to them.

The only time goodwill doesn't have a resale value is if there is no "goodwill" between clients and the company. IMO.

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To: Anthony Tsai who wrote (1793)3/20/2001 4:10:13 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen   of 2110
 
And then there was the Wachovia Securities downgrade on Friday, after the stock had fallen to $10 from a zenith of $173 1/2, a drop of 95%. At least these so-called analysts can provide mile-posts. Just sell when they say to keep buying, and buy when they finally say to stop buying.

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