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To: semperfijarhead who wrote (76852)	5/27/2002 2:59:32 AM
From: neverenough	of 116407

Let's pause a moment and take the following test. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by? (a) Olga Korbut (b) Sitting Bull (c) Arnold Schwartzeneger (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by? (a) Lost Norwegians (b) Elvis (c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by? (a) John Dillinger (b) The King of Sweden (c) Boy Scouts (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by? (a) A pizza delivery boy (b) Pee Wee Herman (c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by? (a) A Roman Catholic Priest (b) Davy Jones (c) The Little Mermaid (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by? (a) Captain Kid (b) Charles Lindberg (c) Mother Teresa (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by? (a) Scooby Doo (b) The Tooth Fairy (c) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid. (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by? (a) Richard Simmons (b) Grandma Moses (c) Michael Jordan (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by? (a) Mr. Rogers (b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems (c) The World Wrestling Federation to promote "Mustapha the Merciless" (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of people were killed by? (a) Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd (b) The Supreme Court of Florida (c) Mr. Bean (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against? (a) Enron (b) The Lutheran Church (c) The NFL (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by? (a) Bonnie and Clyde (b) Captain Kangaroo (c) Billy Graham (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 Hmmm . . . nope, no patterns anywhere here to justify profiling is there?

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To: Anthony@Pacific who started this subject	5/27/2002 4:05:12 AM
From: Baldur Fjvlnisson	of 116407

This one thinks the SEC garbage really exists: RED-FACED SEC TARGETS TWO-FACED ANALYSTS By JESSICA SOMMAR nypost.com May 24, 2002 -- The Securities and Exchange Commission may not be as sleepy as it's looked lately. Outmaneuvered by savvy New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who wrestled Merrill Lynch into a $100 million settlement to drop charges against its two-faced analysts, the SEC has a score to settle. And analysts could soon feel the brunt of SEC ire. The SEC's enforcement group is looking at analysts who traded against their own recommendations, a top flight legal eagle and securities law professor said. Until recently, most of the toniest of investment banks allowed their analysts to own shares in the stocks they covered. If those analysts bought or sold their stock in contradiction to their published recommendations, the hammer could be about to fall, said John Coffee, securities law professor from Columbia Law School. The SEC began a formal inquiry into market practices concerning analysts' conflicts of interest on April 25 and sources familiar with the agency say that analysts' trading practices are in the cross-hairs. "Analysts who recommend a stock and then dumped their own shares could be brought up under anti-fraud provisions," explained Coffee. Analysts trading for their own accounts contrary to their recommendations - for example, selling shares or shorting shares when they publicly gave the company the highest ratings - were discovered by the SEC during an initial inquiry into analysts' conflicts conducted last summer by then acting-SEC commissioner Laura Unger. What she found outraged her. She shared her findings with Congress at hearings last summer. While Spitzer begins his investigations into other firms on Wall Street, at least 30 states' regulators have joined with the SEC task force to investigate and prosecute analysts' conflicts of interest throughout the nation. "I think they have the sense of being overshadowed. I can't think of another occasion where major structural reform has been imposed on the securities industry with the SEC on the sidelines as a spectator. But that's what happens when you are free-market oriented and the public outrage demands something more," said Coffee.

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To: Anthony@Pacific who started this subject	5/27/2002 5:07:22 AM
From: Baldur Fjvlnisson	of 116407

Why hasn't this mob owned garbage been fired YET? ------------------------- Common Cause Calls for The Resignation of SEC Chairman Harvey Pitt Harshbarger: “Pattern of Conflicts Undermines Citizen and Investor Confidence” commoncause.org May 10, 2002 Contact: Seth Amgott Cleve Mesidor Susan Quatrone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “The SEC is holding an investors’ conference today to listen to the concerns of average Americans. Ending Chairman Harvey Pitt’s continuing conflicts of interest would send a stronger message. The stakes could not be higher: our economy depends on efficient, open markets safeguarded by the rule of law. The American public deserves an impartial Securities and Exchange Commission that safeguards the public interest and investor confidence. Instead, Mr. Pitt has demonstrated a pattern of actual and apparent conflict of interest. This pattern undermines citizen and investor confidence,” Common Cause President Scott Harshbarger said. “As the fallout continues from the Enron collapse, Mr. Pitt’s pattern includes: taking office at a disadvantage in terms of credibility, due to his role in the accounting industry’s lobbying campaign two years ago to preserve their conflicts of interest; an improper meeting with a former client under investigation by the SEC; and leaving the role of defending shareholder protection from conflicts of interest by research analysts to the New York Attorney General. It’s time for his departure. “At best, Chairman Pitt showed poor judgment and disdain for the public trust when he agreed to an April 26 meeting with Eugene D. O’Kelly, the new chairman of KPMG. Chairman Pitt had represented the firm as a securities lawyer, even representing them at one meeting with the SEC. KPMG was and remains the target of an investigation by the SEC for its alleged participation in a strategy to overstate Xerox profits by $3 billion. “According to Mr. O’Kelly, he raised the subject of potential SEC enforcement actions against the firm. Mr. Pitt denies that this happened. He says belatedly that he will avoid such meetings in the future. “His poor judgment on this meeting underlines a larger problem: As a securities lawyer for more than 20 years, Mr. Pitt made millions from representing more than 100 corporate clients including all the Big 5 accounting firms. Just two years ago, at the behest of the accounting industry, Chairman Pitt played a leading role in watering down proposed SEC regulations concerning auditor independence. His support of further self-regulation by the accounting industry is an unsatisfactory attempt to undo his previous work. “Common Cause asked Chairman Pitt to recuse himself from the Enron/Andersen investigation because of the potential conflict of interest. The O’Kelly meeting shows Chairman Pitt has not yet made the transition from advocate for private clients to guardian of the public trust. The Enron collapse and large-scale restatements of corporate profits have the potential to further undermine confidence in financial markets. The SEC’s response threatens to undermine faith in our democratic institutions. “We cannot afford an SEC Chairman who undermines both. “Chairman Pitt should resign from the commission.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Useful links: Press Releases: commoncause.org

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To: Stockdoctor who wrote (76867)	5/27/2002 7:59:45 AM
From: asianflower	of 116407

Pure speculation Most everyone on this board is only engaging in speculation (you can look that one up in the dictionary). Do you think that the United States Attorneys office would file a RICO case and arrest a former and a current FBI agent, without substantial evidence? Do you think that the U. S. Attorneys office is going to publicize all of their evidence? Do you really think that the U.S. Attorneys office is going to raise the red flag of 9/11, without a pretty damn good reason? Do you think that they have not had wire taps on Tonys and other phones for at least the last two months? Get real people, the U.S. Attorney is not going to court on such a high profile case, without some very substantial evidence. They also are not going to humiliate the FBI with false accusations, especially now. I believe that there is overwhelming evidence to justify every charge or they would not have included the charges in their indictment. As I read it, this is an ongoing investigation. I believe the arrests of Tony and others last week was premature, but necessary, because the investigation was being leaked by a rogue FBI agent. I believe there will be several more arrests in the coming weeks and those arrests are not going to be simple traders. I believe we will see someone from the SEC arrested for leaking information. Afterall how many trading halts were predicted, before they were public knowledge. I believe there will be arrests of more law enforcement people. I also believe that at least one investigative journalist will be indicted. The same journalist that closed three trading accounts in one day!!! Those of you who are judging the merits of this case, are doing so without having the facts. The people that filed the case DO have the facts. Tony is well liked by many loyal followers, but he could very well be very dirty as far as this scandal is concerned. I have no doubt that he at least bribed FBI agents! Good luck Ton, we luv ya baby!!!

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To: Stockdoctor who wrote (76861)	5/27/2002 8:14:55 AM
From: PartyTime	of 116407

Again, here's some info on the selling pressure pre-9/11. decisionpoint.com More selling at any time in the past nine years. Looks like a whole mixed bag of folks, Muslim or not, thought something bad wuz gonna happen. I think it's possible the 9/11 aspect was entered into Elgindy's case because it accomplished two things: a) theoretically, it'd help strengthen the prosecutor's case to have Elgindy denied bail; and, b) this aspect in the case might open doors for learning more investigatory information, because more folks might be apt to step forward with information about financial implications possibly were related to 9/11. Remember, with or without Elgindy, there's still a heavy government investigation into this.

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To: DO$Kapital who wrote (76870)	5/27/2002 8:21:58 AM
From: sylvester80	of 116407

"is it fair that amr tony is sitting in jail while the top execs of wall street's whorehouses sit on 18kt gold toilet seats in their challenger jets? is it fair that the top execs of the all the corporations who sold stock, shorted and deliberately issued false and misleading statements to the press and their (small) shareholders/employees are free while tony ibrahim is not? is it fair that the mary meekers, blodgetts, keith benjamins and jamie kiggens of the world have not been HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their actions?" I agree. And if any of them are found guilty of those crimes they will join amr tony in jail.

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To: Anthony@Pacific who started this subject	5/27/2002 10:15:36 AM
From: PartyTime	of 116407

Who knew what when and should the judge have considered Elgindy's pre-9/11 trading action? The reporting excerpts below show compelling reason to, at a minimum, look at every possibility. Of course, the time and place for such an examination is certainly not in a pre-trial bail hearing. Obviously, the judge took the safe and non-sensational course by stating he did not wish to embark upon that path. And with good reason. If anything's there it'll come out in the wash down the road. I do not vouch for the sources below; however, together, they make for an interesting compilation and perhaps a backdrop as to why the prosecutor behaved as he did in the bail hearing: rediff.com news.independent.co.uk globalresearch.ca newsbytes.com portal.telegraph.co.uk wsws.org newsmax.com

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